August 29, 2016
There is salvation outside the Church for the Lake Garda Statement signatories.It is the same for the contemporary magisterium and the Church at large. So for example, why should the LCWR Sisters seek first the Kingdom of God and his justice within the Catholic Church ? They could also seek it in Buddhism or Hinduism.The theology is approved by the traditionalists
The Lake Garda Statement-Dr.John Rao
But the truth is that the Catholic Church, which is the
Mystical Body of Christ, is the
renewal of humanity, a renewal made possible only by the translation of fallen
men into the state of sanctifying grace and the consequent elevation of human
society to heights it could never attain by any purely human effort. Thus it is
the world that is obliged to contribute to the work of the Church. Yet we witness with amazement a
historically sudden inversion of the proper order of things in the Church’s
approach to her mission in human society.
Whither the Social Kingship of
Christ?
With all of these considerations in view, we must ask:
What has happened to the Church’s certitude concerning her exclusive and
divinely ordained role in the right ordering of human affairs and the fostering
of true brotherhood among men? Have the Church’s leaders forgotten that her
founder is God Incarnate? Have they somehow misplaced the divine commission to
“make disciples of all nations”?
Do they still believe the defined dogma that the Church is the sole ark of
salvation? Are they still mindful of Our Lord’s warning: “without me you can do
nothing”? Do they no longer have confidence in His
promise: “But seek ye first the Kingdom of God, and His justice, and all these
things will be added unto you”?
But the truth is that the Catholic Church, which is the Mystical Body of Christ, is the renewal of humanity,
Lionel:
How
can there be a renewal from the Catholic Church since Vatican Council
II and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 interpreted with Cushingism,
indicates there is salvation outside the Church. So all do not need to
be members of the Catholic Church for salvation. There is salvation in
other religions and these cases are known to be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus( Feeneyite).This is also the theology of Dr.John Rao and the signatories of the Lake Statement.So why is the Church still needed?
For me there are no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(
EENS), I cannot meet or see any one saved outside the Church.Humanly
speaking there could not be any one in the past too, who could see
someone saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.So I
accept the first part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which
supports EENS ( Feeneyite) and reject the second part which supports
EENS ( Cushingite-with exceptions).The second part contradicts the first
part.
I
also interpret Vatican Council II with Feneeyism.There are no known
exceptions in Vatican Council II to the dogma EENS( Feeneyite). So for
me LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer to hypothetical cases.They are not a
reference to known people in the present times, saved without the
baptism of water.
So
this is the difference between Dr. John Rao and me.For him there are
exceptions to the old ecclesiology and he supports the new liberal
ecclesiology which he indirectly criticises in this Statement.
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a
renewal made possible only by the translation of fallen men into the
state of sanctifying grace and the consequent elevation of human
society to heights it could never attain by any purely human effort.
Thus it is the world that is obliged to contribute to the work of the
Church.
Lionel:
But
the present Church is Cushingite and it is a break with the old
ecclesiology which would support 'triumphalism'.The traditionalists
support the new liberal ecclesiology based on Cushingism i.e
hypothethical cases must be interpreted as being personally known in the
present times, for them to be explicit exceptions to EENS( Feeneyite),
the Syllabus of Errors etc.
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Yet
we witness with amazement a historically sudden inversion of the
proper order of things in the Church’s approach to her mission in human
society.
Lionel:
The
Church's approach to mission like that of the signatories of the Lake
Garda Statement has changed.They are all now Christocentric without the
old exclusivism.The signatories of this Statement are part of the problem.
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Whither the Social Kingship of Christ?
With
all of these considerations in view, we must ask: What has happened to
the Church’s certitude concerning her exclusive and divinely ordained
role in the right ordering of human affairs and the fostering of true
brotherhood among men?
Lionel:
It has changed with Cushingism.
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Have the Church’s leaders forgotten that her founder is God Incarnate?
Lionel:
With
Cushingism Jesus' Church is not absolutely necessary for
salvation.Since there are alleged cases of salvation outside the Church
which have their source in God Incarnate.
We
do not know who they are and we cannot know who they are but it is
speculated that these unknown cases are exceptions to the Church's
traditional theology.
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Have they somehow misplaced the divine commission to “make disciples of all nations”?
Lionel:
Why? According to the SSPX website for example, there is known
salvation outside the Church. So Feeneyism is condemned.They support the
second part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.They also interpret
Vatican Council II ( LG 16 etc) as referring to known exceptions to
traditional EENS( Feeneyite). So since there is known
salvation outside the Church why "make disciples of all
nations".Cardinal Ratzinger's New Theology and the Catechism of the
Catholic Church suggests non Catholics will be saved through Jesus and
the Church ( CCC 846).
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Do they still believe the defined dogma that the Church is the sole ark of salvation?
Lionel:
The
signatories of the Lake Garda Statement, defacto, in reality, do not
accept the defined dogma which tells us that the Church is the sole ark
of salvation.
They may say that they do accept it . However their theology is Cushingite and this is a negation of EENS ( Feeneyite).
Also
their interpretation of Vatican Council II,the Catechism of the
Catholic Church( 1995), Mystici Corporis ,Quanta Cura and other
magisterial documents is with Cushingism, even though a choice is
available.
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Are they still mindful of Our Lord’s warning: “without me you can do nothing”?
Lionel:
According
to the Cushingite theology even without membership in the Catholic
Church and without knowledge of Jesus a non Catholic can be saved in
another religion.This is the basis for the New Theology of Rahner and
Ratzinger.It is from here that Rahner gave us his Anonymous Christian
theory which Cardinal Ratzinger enforced in the Catholic Church.
Now
Ecclesia Dei wants the SSPX to accept Vatican Council II ( Cushingism)
which will rubber stamp the New Theology and Rahner's Anonymous
Christian :it is the foundation for the new liberal ecumenism.
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Do
they no longer have confidence in His promise: “But seek ye first the
Kingdom of God, and His justice, and all these things will be added
unto you”?
Lionel:
There
is salvation outside the Church for the Lake Garda Statement
signatories.It is the same for the contemporary magisterium and the
Church at large. So for example, why should the LCWR Sisters seek first
the Kingdom of God and his justice within the Catholic Church ? They
could also seek it in Buddhism or Hinduism.The theology is approved by
the traditionalists.
-Lionel Andrades
August 27, 2016
This
passes of for Catholic philosophical reasoning.It is the philosophical
basis of a new Catholic theology.It is accepted by all the signatories
of the Lake Garda Statement.There would have been no 'Conciliar changes'
without this error http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/08/this-passes-of-for-catholic.html
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/08/there-is-salvation-outside-church-for.html
November 21, 2019
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https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/repost-what-social-reign-of-our-lord.html
May 27, 2019
Catholic proclamation for martyrs (in agreement with the Second Vatican Council and the Catechism of the Catholic Church)
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/catholic-proclamation-for-martyrs-in.html
MAY 15, 2019
Proclamazione Cattolica per i martiri (in accordo con il Concilio Vaticano II e il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica)
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