If Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre interpreted Vatican Council II without the false premise in 1965 there would be no liberal-traditionalist division in the Catholic Church today. - Lionel Andrades
NOVEMBER 3, 2020
The next time a traditionalist priest is transferred or dismissed the bloggers should not just report it critically indicating that they accept the unjust decision with a traditionalist-liberal division and the development of doctrine, and they cannot do anything about it. Since if a traditionalist priest is excommunicated it is the bishop who is interpreting Vatican Council II irrationaly.The issue is doctrinal and theological. It is the bishop who interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and creates division in the Catholic Church.
The next time a traditionalist priest is transferred or dismissed the bloggers should not just report it criticially indicating that they accept the unjust decision with a traditionalist-liberal division and the development of doctrine, and they cannot do anything about it.
Since if a traditionalist priest is excommunicated it is the bishop who is interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally.The issue is doctrinal and theological. It is the bishop who interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and creates division in the Catholic Church. -Lionel Andrades
THURSDAY, JANUARY 16, 2020
When Vatican Council II, the Catechisms and Creeds are interpreted with Feeneyism ( invisible people are invisible in the present times), Pope Francis cannot make his rigid and non rigid distinction. It is only with Cushingism that he can create heresy and schism and then expect Catholics to follow, this Vatican Council II(Cushingite), which creates a rupture with the popes and saints over the centuries on EENS, Nicene Creed, Athanasius Creed etc.
Since the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are Feeneyite for me i.e they are invisible and not visible cases in the present times, they do not contradict EENS ( Feeneyite).So I do not have to reject BOD, BOB and I.I and neither EENS( Feeneyite).So there is no traditionalist-liberal distinction for me.
I have been asking the NCR,the Oxford University Press and other media, to not review books from authors, who interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, etc in Vatican Council II as being exceptions to EENS. This is Cushingism. It is irrational. It is not Catholic.
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc are hypothetical for me. They can only be hypothetical for us human beings.So Vatican Council II does not have any exceptions to EENS ( Feeneyite).
I am ' a rigid Catholic' who is supported by Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).
I am a traditionalist whose traditionalism is supported by Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).
I am a Feeneyite on extra extra ecclesiam nulla salus supported by the Council, which is Feeneyite, when a false premise and inference, is avoided, in the interpretation.
We can look at this practically.
Both groups of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, for example, would have to be Feeneyite on Vatican Council II and EENS, since Cushingism is irrational and deceptive.They do not have a choice.
So when both groups acknowledge that they can only be Feeneyite on Vatican Council II, what difference does it make, if the Rite is Latin, Byzantine, Syro Malabar, Maronite or in the vernacular. They are affirming Tradition and the Council.
Franciscans of the Immaculate seminarians who study theology at the pontifical universities, approved by Pope Francis, would know that Vatican Council II can only be Feeneyite.
So this distinction between traditionalists and liberals based upon Vatican Council II is now meaningless for me.Vatican Council II is Feeneyite and the writers at the National Catholic Reporter have to accept it.There is no Cushingite choice.They cannot choose to re-interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.This would be unethical.
The Franciscans of the Immaculate can no more be accused of being crypto-Lefebvrist, since Lefebvrism, is Cushingite. The SSPX , FSSP and F.I priests can offer/attend the Traditional Latin Mass, as traditionalists but they would have to do it with Feeneyism.
Brother Andre Marie MICM, the Prior at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA goes for the Latin Mass at a church in New Hampshire, USA when the priest possibly still interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism.So at Mass in Latin, or English, the theology of the priest and the congregation could be Cushingite or Feeneyite.
The traditionalist-liberal, rigid-non rigid distinctions should not apply to both Andre Marie and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, since Vatican Council II is Feeneyite for him and the Council is no more a rupture with Tradition.He is a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II(Cushingite) and accepts Vatican Council II( Feeneyite). So he is a traditionalist who does not reject the Council and is not in schism with the past popes on EENS( Feeneyite).
When Vatican Council II, the Catechisms and Creeds are interpreted with Feeneyism ( invisible people are invisible in the present times), Pope Francis cannot make his rigid and non rigid distinction. It is only with Cushingism that he can create heresy and schism and then expect Catholics to follow, this Vatican Council II(Cushingite), which creates a rupture with the popes and saints over the centuries on EENS, Nicene Creed, Athanasius Creed etc.-Lionel Andrades
JANUARY 16, 2020
The New Theology is used by Diane Montagna, Roberto dei Mattei and traditionalists and liberals.The real issue never ever was the Latin Mass but the New Theology, Cushingite theology.________________________________________
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