Thursday, August 29, 2024

Tradivox Inc needs to clarify that the Catechisms can be interpreted with Cushingism or Feeneyism

 

https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2020/03/announcing-tradivox-international.html

Aaron Seng is the President of Tradivox. In this Vimeo video he “refers to the enduring faith of our Fathers” and he wants to ” learn and teach the faith handed down from the Apostles”. For him this is the Catholic Faith 'as it was taught throughout the centuries’.

I appreciate his efforts and reasoning. However it is not so simply. For example, the Baltimore Catechism mentions the baptism of desire. The baptism of desire is included in the Section on Baptism. Over the centuries the baptism of desire referred to an invisible case on earth. This is common knowledge. But for those bishops and cardinals today, who have endorsed the Tradivox Catechisms, the baptism of desire refers to a visible and known person in the present times (1965-2024).So the baptism of desire is a practical exception for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is a practical exception for Cardinal Raymond Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schneider. But it is an invisible case for me. It was an invisible case for those bishops who are cited by Aaron Seng as ‘Historic Endorsements’.

So our conclusions our different. For me CCC 847-848 (invincible ignorance) will not contradict CCC 845-846 (outside the Church there is no salvation). But for the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, and CCC 847-848 is a practical exception for CCC 845-846. The Catechism of the Catholic Church does contradict itself and is irrational.


Similarly CCC 1257 (The Necessity of Baptism) states that the Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water. But CCC 1257 seems to contradict itself when it says that ‘God is not limited to the Sacraments’. So for Aaron Seng there would be exceptions. For me there are no exceptions. Since only God can know who does not need the baptism of water for salvation. For me this is a hypothetical case. For us humans, this is an unknown an invisible person. So there really is no contradiction in CCC 1257. 

Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church is not a break with Tradition for me as it is for cardinals and bishops in general who choose the false premise ( invisible people are visible).

  • When what is invisible is confused as being visble I call it Cushingism. When what is invisible is confused as being visible I call it Feeneyism.

Cushingism is not the faith our fathers, it is not the faith which has come down to us from the Apostles.There cannot be a restoration with Cushingism.

When the Catechisms are interpreted rationally we return to the old theology which was Feeneyite. We return to the Catholic Faith of the Apostles, the Church Fathers and the Magisterium of the Middle Ages.     -Lionel Andrades


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JANUARY 25, 2019


For me the red does not contradict the blue so there is a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition ( Graphics)

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/for-me-red-does-not-contrradict-blue-so.html

In a prepared statement for the press the former Jesuit(Fr.Leonard Feeney) added: "The conscience difficulty is that the diocese of Boston, under the auspices of Archbishop Cushing, and Boston College, under the auspices of Father John J. McEloney, S.J., both notably ignorant in the field of Catholic theology ... are teaching that there is salvation outside the Catholic Church." - Father Feeney Is Dismissed From Jesuit Order by Rome
 http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1949/10/29/father-feeney-is-dismissed-from-jesuit/ 

 FEBRUARY 28, 2019

No Magisterial document contradicts Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus( EENS)
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/no-magisterial-document-contradicts_28.html


 FEBRUARY 15, 2019

CDF could ask Cardinal Muller and Bishop Schneider to interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church rationally
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/cdf-could-ask-cardinal-muller-and.html


FEBRUARY 13, 2019

Cardinal Gerhard Muller cites the Catechism of the Catholic Church but does not say that it affirms the strict interpretation of salvation
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/cardinal-gerhard-muller-cites-catechism.html


 FEBRUARY 9, 2019



It is Vatican Council II which is part of the seismic shift. It has changed before our very eyes ( Graphics )

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/it-is-vatican-council-ii-which-is-part.html

FEBRUARY 9, 2019



The red is not an exception to the blue' : new extraordinary understanding of Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/the-red-is-not-exception-to-blue-new.html

 FEBRUARY 5, 2019


Catholic media does not say that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/catholic-media-does-not-say-that.html

FEBRUARY 4, 2019



Bishop Peter Libasci and the CDF will not place Brother Andre Marie's Letter Explaining Saint Benedict Center’s Doctrinal Stance on the diocese website

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/bishop-peter-libasci-and-cdf-will-not.html


FEBRUARY 3, 2019



Archbishops Giacomo Morandi and Joseph Augustine di Noia, Secretary and Adjunct Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrince of the Faith, Vatican are reading the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 with the red passages being an exception to the blue passages. This is irrational, non traditional and heretical

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/archbishops-giacomo-morandi-and-joseph.html


JANUARY 26, 2019

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The Catechism of the Catholic Church affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : CDF makes a mistake

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-catechism-of-catholic-church.html

JANUARY 25, 2019

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The Social Reign of Christ the King can be proclaimed based on Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church which affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-social-reign-of-christ-king-can-be.html

JANUARY 23, 2019



The rational approach, the only approach, is that CCC 846 affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and there are no practical exceptions mentioned in CCC 846 or the rest of the Catechism

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-rational-approach-only-approach-is.html

JANUARY 22, 2019

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Catechism of the Catholic Church (n.846) affirms the strict and traditional interpretation of EENS defined by three Church Councils in the Extraordinary Magisterium 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/catechism-of-catholic-church-n846.html

  

JANUARY 19, 2019

Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : CDF, Diocese of Manchester irrational and heretical 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/vatican-council-ii-and-catechism-of.html

 

JANUARY 18, 2019

Outside the Church there is no salvation in the Catechism( N.846) affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus   https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/outside-church-there-is-no-salvation-in.html


 JANUARY 16, 2019




Catechism of the Catholic Church and Dominus Iesus 'constitutive of Catholic teaching ' do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS : the CDF made an objective error

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/catechism-of-catholic-church-and.html
 

Why should the St. Benedict Center be obedient to public heresy,schism and sacrilege from the CDF and the Diocese of Manchester ? 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/why-should-st-benedict-center-be.html

JANUARY 13, 2019


Diocesan of Manchester needs to clarify its doctrinal position for Catholics

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/diocesan-of-manchester-needs-to-clarify.html


The Diocese of Manchester's Decree-Precepts-St.Benedict Center, issued by the Episcopal Vicar for Canonical Affairs is based on false reasoning 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-diocese-of-manchesters-decree.html

JANUARY 11, 2019


The CDF wants Catholic religious communities and lay movements to accept heresy and sacrilege otherwise canonical prohibitions will be placed upon them

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-cdf-wants-catholic-religious.html


JANUARY 10, 2019

Brother Andre Marie MICM affirms extra ecclesiam nulla salus based on Vatican Council II : query from the CDF
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/broandre-marie-affirms-extra-ecclesiam.html

JANUARY 8, 2019

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St.Robert Bellarmine was a Feeneyite and so was St. Thomas Aquinas.So is Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/strobert-bellarmine-was-feeneyite-and.html

JANUARY 5, 2019

Image result for Photos Vatican Council II irrational and error
Vatican Council II has a heretical theology but in a peculiar way it can be interpreted non heretically
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/vatican-council-ii-has-heretical.html
 DECEMBER 31, 2018
Cushingite passages do not contradict Feeneyite passages. The liberals did not know ( Graphics)  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/cushingite-passages-do-not-contradict.html


 DECEMBER 31, 2018

  







The Traditional Latin Mass must not be separated from the exclusive-salvation theology of Vatican Council II (Graphics)

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-traditional-latin-mass-must-not-be.html


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