OCTOBER 5, 2014
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus defined three times is denied by Pope Francis, the Vatican Curia and Jesuits among others.This is first class heresy and a mortal sin
Michael Brown, Spirit Daily
Like Pontiffs before him the Pope recently emphasized that we must respect other
religions (including Islam) and that if they posit one God they are basically, if not
always perfectly, seeking to tap into the same source. We must find common.
Lionel:
The pope does not affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
He interprets Vatican Council II with an irrational premise. He has
never cited Ad Gentes 7 in Vatican Council II which says all need
faith and baptism for salvation.
He accepts an irrational premise in the Letter of the Holy Office
1949 which results in a chanage in the traditional teaching of the
Catholic Church on other religions and Christian communities.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is not allowing
the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Society of St.Pius X
to interpret Vatican Council without implying that salvation in
Heaven is visible to us on earth and these 'ghosts' are explicit
exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Michael Brown,Spirit Daily
John Paul II once created an uproar by declaring that salvation is possible
for Christians in other denominations.
Lionel:
If someone is saved in another religion it is not an exception to
the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Since this case would
not be known in the present times. The Letter of the Holy
Office 1949 made an objective mistake when it inferred that
these cases are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla
salus.In other words they are explicit for us in the present times.
This factual error is incorporated in Vatican Council II (LG 14 etc),
the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257-160) and other
magisterial documents.
Michael Brown,Spirit Daily
It was a fore-echoing of Pope Francis.
Venezuelan mystic Maria Esperanza, whose cause for sainthood is moving
forward, once said:
"I don't deny anyone his own faith. I respect the faith of all people because
you just follow what your parents teach you.
I think we all go to the same source, but through different fountains. And so,
why do we all fight against each other?"
(in The Bridge To Heaven).
Lionel:
If we all go to the same source why did Jesus have to die,
why did he ask for the baptism of water for all ?
Michael Brown,Spirit Daily
It was a fore-echoing of Pope Francis.
Lionel:
The the pope has never said that according to Vatican
Council II (AG 7) the majority of people are oriented
to Hell since they do not have 'faith and baptism'
necssary for salvation. Pope Francis has rejected the
faith and moral teachings of the Catholic Church, in
public.
Michael Brown,Spirit Daily
In turn, Esperanza hearkened to the Blessed Virgin of Medjugorje, where Mary
said (October 1, 1981), "Members of all faiths are equal before God. God rules
over each faith just like a sovereign over his kingdom. In the world, all religions
are not the same because all people have not complied with the commandments
of God. They reject and disparage them."
Lionel:
This would be rejection of the de fide teachings on the
necessity of the baptism of water for salvation for all.
This is if she said this and meant it as such.
Michael Brown,Spirit Daily
The Blessed Mother had caused a minor uproar in the early 1980s when
asked who the holiest woman in the area was, for she allegedly told a visionary
(Mirjana Dragicevic Soldo, in Sarajevo at the time) that the answer was a local
Muslim woman.
Lionel:
I personally asked Fr.Slavko Barbaric OFM this question.He
was the Spiritual Director of the visionaries.
He denied that Our Lady had said this to any of the
visionaries.
Michael Brown,Spirit Daily
Looking for the good in others -- such as devout Muslims -- does not mean
ignoring basic issues with a religion. Yes, a Muslim may be holy, in a religion
that is obviously flawed. We are to love everyone and respect everyone
Lionel:
The Catholic Church has taught, before and after Vatican
Council II that the Muslim religion is not a path to salvation
and that Muslims are oriented to Hell without 'faith and
baptism'(AG 7).
According to Vatican Council II billions of
people are on the way to Hell since they die without Catholic
Faith and the baptism of water.This is also the teaching of the
dogma defined three times on extra ecclesiam nulla salus which
Pope Francis, the Vatican Curia and the Jesuits among others
do not affirm. This is a first class heresy since it changes the
Nicene Creed. It is a rejection of the Creed.This is a mortal sin.
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