Monday, September 30, 2024

Lefebvrist theology is a sinking ship: Vatican investigates the FSSP

 

 

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Lefebvrist theology is a sinking ship: Vatican investigates the FSSP

 


A schism charge is expected soon against the Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP) in an extra judicial trial, unless they act quickly, and announce that they accept Vatican Council II, as interpreted by Lionel Andrades, they accept Pope Francis as the pope and they also affirm Tradition, including the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechism of Pope Pius X, remaining traditionalists.

The FSSP cannot cite Tradition as their sole defense since Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez have based their arguments and charges on Vatican Council II. They  interpret the Council only irrationally.So the Council has exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the rest of Tradition.Tradition is made obsolete. There is a rupture and rejection of Tradition. Pope Francis calls this the work of the Holy Spirit and Cardinal Roche calls it the new Magisterium.The secular media refer to the revolution of Vatican Council II in the Catholic Church.

At the trial for Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, Lefebvrist theology was of no hel. It is also the new theology of Pope Francis, and is based upon the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, was of no help. Presently traditionalists and liberals interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. If they chose to interpret the Council rationally, the division between traditionalists and liberals would end. Since with Vatican Council II, rational, there is a return to the old theology and liberalism is made obsolete. Now with Vatican Council II, irrational, it is Tradition which is made obsolete.

So at any future schism-trial, traditionalists must defend themselves with Vatican Council II, rational. Vatican Council II, rational, was not known to Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Pope Paul VI. This is a new discovery of some 15 years.

The FSSP according to reports accepts Pope Francis as the pope.They accept Vatican Council II (irrational) as does Pope Francis. However it means they have to reject the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors, the old theology manuals, teachings of the saints… in their catechesis. Vatican Council II, irrational, is incompatible with these Magisterial Documents.

The FSSP must realize that the real issue is the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Roman Missal and not the Latin Mass. This exclusivist ecclesiology can also be affirmed at the Novus Ordo Mass when the priest, interprets Lumen Gentium 16 etc, as referring to hypothetical cases, only. So LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are not objective exceptions for the old theology of the Roman Missal. So even with the New Missal of Pope Paul VI, a priest at the Latin or Novus Ordo Mass, can affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus like the missionaries of the 16th century at the Latin Mass. Vatican Council II simply has to be interpreted rationally, without confusing invisible cases as being objective examples of salvation outside the Church in the present times (1965-2024).Vatican Council II, rational is compatible with Tradition and not with the common liberalism.

After the investigation the FSSP needs to clarify for their supporters that they still affirm the Athanasius Creed ( with no exceptions), an ecumenism of return of the Syllabus of Errors ( with no exceptions) and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( with the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance not being exceptions).Otherwise they could be telling the investigation team that they affirm the liberalism of Vatican Council II, irrational. This means affirming the Synods which are based upon Vatican Council II, irrational.

The FSSP also has to clarify for the Ecclesia Dei communities and traditionalists that they consider the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, to be in heresy and schism, which is the normal outcome of using Vatican Council II , irrational.The understanding of the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms are changed. There is a break with the Magisterium before 1949.-Lionel Andrades


If the FSSP has any questions they can e-mail me at lionelandrades10@gmail.com, discuss this issue on any internet forum or meet me personally in Rome.

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