Monday, September 30, 2024

Novus Ordo Mass- priests in Rome say LG 16 always refers to an invisible person.Pope Francis and Card.Fernandez made a mistake: injustice against Vigano. DDF cheats

 

Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez have cheated in the trial of Archbishop Vigano on June 20,2024. At the trial they interpreted Lumen Gentium 16 and the rest of Vatican Council II irrationally to produce a nontraditional conclusion. Then they demanded that Vigano accept the Council with this error. He refused. Pope Francis did not interpret Vatican Council II rationally but the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, demanded that the archbishop accept Pope Francis as the pope. He refused. So they accused the former nuncio to the USA of being in schism and excommunicated him. 

Inspite of many reports on social media pointing out the Lumen Gentium 16 mistake, the error has not been acknowledged by the Vatican and neither a re-trial date announced.

 If Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally then Vigano will be exonerated as a conservative and Cardinal Fernandez and Pope Francis will be incriminated as liberals, heretics and schismatics. This is a crime for the DDF.

With Vatican Council II rational there is no opening for liberalism, like the new evangelization (Christocentric without being Ecclesiocentric), new ecclesiology, new theology, new ecumenism, new moral theology, new salvation theology, new canon law etc.

Priests who offer the Novus Ordo Mass in Prenestina, near Termini, Rome, say Lumen Gentium 16 always refers to an invisible person in 2024.They indicated that Pope Francis, Cardinal Fernandez and the DDF made an objective mistake on Lumen Gentium 16 in particular and Vatican Council II in general.

When the DDF continues with the mistake it is being dishonest. It is also an injustice against Archbishop Vigano.

The DDF (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith-CDF) made the same objective error in a philosophical observation (invisible people are visible on earth) and new theology (outside the Church there is known and visible salvation on earth). This was when they accused the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA, of not following the teachings of the Catholic Church. The DDF demanded that the St. Benedict Center, interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church irrationally. They wanted the SBC to interpret the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance ( CCC 847-848)  as being objective exceptions for CCC 845-846 ( outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation).The SBC rejected this nontraditional and dishonest interpretation. So the Diocese of Manchester in NH and DDF issued a Decree of Prohibitions against the St. Benedict Center. They were considered not Catholic, legally, in a type of modern excommunication. - Lionel Andrades


SEPTEMBER 29, 2024

Priests at the Novus Ordo Mass at Prenestina, Rome affirm the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Roman Missal, when Lumen Gentium 16 is referred tto as an invisible case

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/09/when-priests-who-offer-holy-mass-in.html


SEPTEMBER 29, 2024

Priests and congregations at the Novus Ordo Mass need to petition Card. Fernandez to interpret Vatican Council II rationally in a re-trial of Archbishop Vigano

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/09/blog-post.html

SEPTEMBER 28, 2024

Priests at Prenestina, Rome say Lumen Gentium 16 refers to an invisible person in 2024. But for the DDF and Pope Francis LG 16 etc are exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed. In other words LG 16 refers to a visible case for it to be an exception. Invisible people cannot be exceptions.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/09/priests-at-prenestina-rome-say-lumen.html

 SEPTEMBER 27, 2024

Over 20 years

 

In 2003, when I spoke to Fr. Sebastian Vazhakhala m.c he was not willing to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla slaus (EENS).Lumen Gentium 16 was an exception for EENS him. In other words, it referred to a visible and known case in our reality, someone saved outside the Church. Now in 2024 he knows that Lumen Gentium 16 is an invisible case. So it is not an exception for Tradition. LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are hypothetical cases for him. So now he is saying the same thing as me.

So there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict Feeneyite EENS i.e. the EENS of the Council of Florence 1442 etc. This has to be acknowledged publically by Cardinal Fernandez and the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the (DCF). In the trial of Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano Cardinal Fernandez and Pope Francis interpreted Vatican Council II, confusing Lumen Gentium 16.

The norm for salvation is faith and baptism. The norm is not being saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire. So in general all Jews and Muslim, and other non Catholics, according to Vatican Council II (AG 7), need to enter the Catholic Church for salvation from Hell. The norm for salvation is not being saved in invincible ignorance. - Lionel Andrades

 

 SEPTEMBER 25, 2024

Vigano trial violates Church and secular law : Vatican Council II was interpreted deceptively

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/09/when-priest-says-that-lumen-gentium-16.html

MARCH 16, 2024

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally

 








- Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/we-are-all-saying-same-thing.html

OCTOBER 12, 2023


Fr.Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, Sant Agapito, Rome, the Missionaries of Charity (Men) of Mother Teresa and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis and his Auxiliary Bishops in Rome, agree with me: there are no visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of water in 2023

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-sant.html

JULY 27, 2024

All religious communities need to choose only Feeneyism ( invisible people are invisible ) to interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
















https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/07/all-religious-communities-need-to.html

 SEPTEMBER 24, 2024



Institutional dishonesty. Injustice against Vigano

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/09/obsolete-was-interpretation-of-vatican.html


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