The present position of the Church on this issue is irrational, non traditional and heretical. It is schism with the past popes and the Church Councils on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It is an official error.

  I believe in Bob, Bod and II EXACTLY as taught by the Catholic Church unlike Father Feeney who did not and was excommunicated!

I know you believe in the baptism of desire (BOD),baptism of blood(BOB)  and invincible ignorance (I.I) exactly as taught by the Catholic Church after 1949.For the Church BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENs. In other words they refer to known people, personally known. They are literal cases.So in this way they are exceptions.

If they were no visible and known people outside the Church they would not be exceptions.
But how can they be visible and known people when they are in Heaven and known only to God?

The present position of the Church on this issue is irrational, non traditional and heretical. It is schism with the past popes and the Church Councils on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It is an official error.

-Lionel Andrades

SEPTEMBER 20, 2018

Fr.Leonard Feeney did not have to reject BOD, BOB and I.I theologically, since there is no theology for him with BOD,BOB and I.I being exceptions. They do not exist.Literally they are not there

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/frleonard-feeney-did-not-have-to-reject.html

SEPTEMBER 19, 2018

Catholics can interpret Vatican Council II with BOD, BOB and I.I Cushingite or Feeneyite http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/catholics-can-interpret-vatican-council.html

SEPTEMBER 17, 2018

Until today the popes and cardinals make a doctrinal error on the issue of salvation   http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/until-today-popes-and-cardinals-make.html

Teresa of Avila, Doctor of the Church did not need Cushingism to live longer.

When hypothetical cases are considered to be non hypothetical and objective in the present times I call this Cushingism. For example invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) could be mistaken to be physically visible and personally known people in the present times. So it is then inferred that there are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

However when hypothetical cases are seen as just hypothetical and not known people in the present times,I call this Feeneyism. With Feeneyism, the BOD, BOB and I.I would not be practically known people in the present times.This is something obvious. So it cannot be inferred that there are objective exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

Pope Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism. So he allowed Mixed Marriages ( Matrimonia Mixta), which were formally a mortal sin. Instead he assumed the non Catholic spouse  could also go to Heaven since the New Theology, Cushingite theology, said outside the Church there is salvation.He interpreted Unitatitis Redintigratio 3 ( Decree on Ecumenism) as an exception to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It is there in the text of Matrimonia Mixta. So in other words UnitatitisRedintigatio 3 referred to a personally known non Catholic, a Christian, saved outside the Catholic Church.This is irrational. Yet this was the pontiff's reasoning.

He lifted the over 19 years excommunication of Fr. Leonard Feeney, who refused to recant, but Cushingism was the pope's  New Ecclesiology at inter faith meetings. There was no more exclusive salvation in the Church for him. BOD,BOB and I.I were exceptions.

There supposedly was a known Christian saved outside the Church and this was the start of the New Ecumenism.

The new ecumenism, theology and ecclesiology had its foundation in personally known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I and in Vatican Council II, physically visible cases of LG 8, LG 114, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc.

So now Cardinal Joseph Coutts and the Pakistani bishops do not have to chose martyrdom.With Cushingism there is no mission  with traditional Feeneyite doctrines.

The Cushingite,liberal bishops in Pakistan simply have to say that UR 3,LG 8, LG 16, GS 22 etc are exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.In other words they are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.This is their reasoning.But it gets them off the hook. It makes doctrine non controversial. It is the faith compromised.

This means there are practically known exceptions to the dogma EENS for the Pakistani bishops and the Catholic Church in the past was wrong to say that all Jews, Muslims and other non Catholics were oriented to Hell, without 'faith and baptism'.The old missionaries in pre-partitioned India and Pakistan were wrong to interpret mission and salvation doctrines with a rational theology, Feeneyite theology.

So now the bishops contradict John 3:5 ( the necessity of baptism), Mark 16:16( all need to enter the Church to avoid condemnation),John 6( receiving the Eucharist is necessary for salvation),Mat.7:13( the Church is the narrow gate and most people take the wide road and go to Hell).This is being taught at the Catholic seminaries in Pakistan with the approval of the Vatican. But for me their Cushingite position is deception.Since now we know tht there is no known salvation outside the Catholic Church. We cannot physically see someone saved without 'faith and baptism' since God is not limited to the Sacraments(CCC  1257).

I cannot meet someone saved in Rome or about to be saved, outside the Church, 'with elements of sanctification and truth'(LG 8), imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3), seeds of the Word(AG 11) etc.

So where are the exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus in Vatican Council II, Your Eminence?

There were no exceptions known to St. Teresa of Avila whose feast day it is today. She believed all Lutherans and Moors(Muslims)were going to Hell. She wanted to go to the Muslim areas in Spain to be martyred for her faith in Jesus.

Teresa of Avila, Doctor of the Church did not need Cushingism to live longer.

But for -Lionel Andrades

Cardinal Joseph Coutts and the Pakistani bishops could proclaim the Faith honestly even if they could be martyred

Cardinal Joseph Coutts is in Rome for the Synod of the Youth. In Pakistan the tension increases as a Supreme Court decision is awaited on the appeal of Aasia Bibi, a Christian.

 The lawyer of the Pakistani Christian who could be hanged,  told the judges that the testimony of the accusers differed.They were also instigated to file a complaint with the police days after the incident.It was a Muslim cleric who encouraged them to file the blasphemy charge.He was not present at the scene of the arugument among the women.

So the women could be testifying against Aasia , to prove that they themselves are good Muslims and in this way they save their own lives and interests and have a right to live.Similarly if there are Muslims in the villages of Pakistan who say that Aasia Bibi should be forgiven their lives could be in danger.

During the controversy over 'The Satanic Verses' written by Salman Rushdi, a Muslim Imam in Denmark, who was a convert from Christianity, it was reported called for forgiving Rushdi. He was murdered.

So if Aasia Bibi said that Jesus is the Son of God, it could be miscontrued as an attack on Islamism.

If she said God is One, there is One God  and Three Persons, it could again be mistaken as blasphemy by some Muslims.

If Cardinal Joseph Coutts the Archbishop of Karachi, Pakistan said Vatican Council II tells us that all need faith and baptism for salvation, and this includes those who know and do not know about the Faith, he could be misunderstood.

If he said that most people in Pakistan are oriented to Hell since they die outside the Church without faith and baptism, he could be 'offending the feelings of Muslims' according to Pakistan law.

But this is the Catholic Faith.

The Athanasius Creed begins:-

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. 

The Catechism of the Catholic Church ( n.1257) says the norm for salvation is the baptism of water. The Archbishop of Karachi does not know of any exceptions.Practically, literally he cannot judge anyone to be an exception.

The Catechism of Pope Pius X says :

From the Catechism of Pope Pius X

16 Q. Is Baptism necessary to salvation?

A. Baptism is absolutely necessary to salvation, for our Lord has expressly said: 

"Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into 

the Kingdom of God."

The Church in Particular

9 Q. State distinctly what is necessary to be a member of the Church?

A. To be a member of the Church it is necessary to be baptised, to believe and 

profess the teaching of Jesus Christ, to participate in the same Sacraments, and

 to acknowledge the Pope and the other lawful pastors of the Church.

24 Q. To be saved, is it enough to be any sort of member of the Catholic Church?

A. No, to be saved it is not enough to be any sort of member of the Catholic 

Church; it is necessary to be a living member.

27 Q. Can one be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church?

A. No, no one can be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic Roman Church, 

just as no one could be saved from the flood outside the Ark of Noah, 

which was a figure of the Church.

Cardinal Joseph Coutts and the Pakistani bishops could proclaim the Faith honestly even if they could be martyred.

-Lionel Andrades

In the midst of the evening’s frivolities (similar to a TV variety show, complete with gregarious emcee), this young man provided a sobering reminder that the bloody persecution of Christians is real and that Islam is most certainly not a religion of peace, contrary to what Pope Francis and numerous other prelates would have us believe (see, for example, Evangelii Gaudium, n. 253).

Providentially, I ended up speaking with one of the Synod Fathers after the event, His Eminence Cardinal Joseph Coutts (Archbishop of Karachi in Pakistan), and our discussion included the topic of Islam (I asked him about the situation he faces back home in a predominantly Muslim country, in light of the young Iraqi’s testimony). Cardinal Coutts graciously accepted a copy of my booklet Fatima, Islam, and Our Lady’s Coming Triumph and was pleased to hear me bring up Our Lady of Fatima.

His Eminence Cardinal Joseph Coutts (Archbishop of Karachi in Pakistan) with CFN Managing Editor Matt Gaspers after the Meeting of Young People (aka “Saturday Night Circus”).

https://www.catholicfamilynews.org/blog/2018/10/9/synod-2018-weekend-highlights-vigan-developments

St.Teresa of Avila feast day today : she experienced the highest levels of union with God, within the Catholic Church

Contemplative, she experienced the highest levels of union with God and was a Daughter of the Church.

She was given the title of Doctor of the Church and she believed that all Lutherans and Moors( Muslims) were on the way to Hell. This was not said out of a sense of triumphalism or superiority but because she saw and knew objective reality after death.
She wrote about the seven levels of conciousness or mansions as she called them, leading to union with God. She described the charachteristics of each level. 
She said God was at the centre of the soul and it was sin which prevented us from going past the lower mansion towards union with God.

Actual manuscripts of her writing, in the original, are on display at  the Basilica of St. Teresa of  Avila,  Rome.  

-Lionel Andrades



Ecstasy of St. Teresa of Avila at the church Santa Maria di Vittoria in Rome.

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Repost : Bishop Fellay uses a false premise when he assumes LG 8 refers to visible in the flesh cases : Doctrine has not changed unless you use a false premise.

FEBRUARY 23, 2015

Bishop Fellay uses a false premise when he assumes LG 8 refers to visible in the flesh cases : Doctrine has not changed unless you use a false premise.

Lionel:

Patty,In this link do you think that Bishop Fellay was not aware of the irrational premise?
Do you think he made an objective mistake?

April 23-Sept.11, 2014 - still no clarification from the SSPX
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/april-23-sept112014-still-no.html

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Patty :
It is my view that Bishop Fellay stated precisely what he intended to say.

Lionel:
'The same declaration (LG. 8) also recognizes the presence of “salvific elements” in non-Catholic Christian communities' and the SSPX bishop concludes that 'Such statements are irreconcilable with the dogma “No salvation outside of the Church,” which was reaffirmed by a Letter of the Holy Office on August 8, 1949.'Patty the dogma says all need to formally enter the Church and it does not mention any exceptions. So how is LG 8 an exception to the dogma for Bishop Fellay and the SSPX ?Do you know of any any exceptions to the dogma? Can you name them? Would Bishop Fellay be able to name any case ?Do you see what I mean ? This is an issue of doctrine. It is at the center of the SSPX canonical status issue.
Doctrine has not changed unless you use a false premise.The false premise is that we can see and known in the present times people who are in Heaven.
So the false conclusion is that these deceased now in Heaven are living, explicit, objective exceptions to all needing faith and baptism for salvation.

 Bishop Fellay uses a false premise when he assumes LG 8 refers to visible in the flesh cases.
Bishop Fellay does not realize that there are no exceptions to the dogma in Vatican Council II.There can never be an exceptions since we cannot see the dead who are now in Heaven.

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But, again, in charity, I would say that you should pursue clarification at the source. Anything less would be conjecture and likely add to confusion.
Lionel:
I don't know how to do it.I have been sending regular e-mails to the SSPX sources in the USA , Econe, Italy etc for the last few years.They still don't know what I am talking about.They are full of the Marchetti theology.
The Vatican knows precisely what I am saying. They are keeping silent. They are not going to say that the Council affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The Rome Vicariate is preventing priests from speaking about this including those who offer the Traditional Latin Mass. This issue is monitored by the Jewish Left here.
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That said, if you hold the view that this misperception of '49 is 'the' pivot point for breaking from what the Church has always taught, I suggest, instead of stating what the Society must do, that you take the onus to do it yourself.
Lionel:
I have been writing about this subject on my blog.I have been posting material on this subject to different people.I have visited Vatican offices.
On the other hand this is not a personal theology or a point of view.
It is a fact of life that we cannot see the dead who are now saved in Heaven.This is a given.

So how can Marchetti and the SSPX ( and you?) imply that the baptism of desire- cases are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ?
We are back to the questions I asked earlier. Where are these exceptions in 2015? What are their names and surnames?
How can people in Heaven be explicit exceptions to the dogma on earth?
They would have to exist in our reality to be exceptions.
If you Patty infer that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are exceptions to the dogma, then it is a factual error. You are saying that the deceased are living exceptions to the traditional teaching. In other words that you and all of us can see and know the dead.Do you follow me? Do you agree?
I asked you those questions to see if you had understood what I had said.
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You'd rather be barking up the wrong tree in expecting someone you believe misguided on such a critical issue to take up your banner and pursue Rome.
Lionel:
It is not my banner. It is something objective and known to all people that we cannot see or know in the present times(2015) people in Heaven who could be exceptions to the traditional teaching on salvation.
This only has to be understood!
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Again, that's just my take on it. Not gospel...and no finger wag by any means.
Lionel:
I understand.

-Lionel Andrades

For the SSPX magisterial teachings are accepted on the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 but rejected with respect to Vatican Council II (with the premise) http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/for-sspx-magisterial-teachings-are.html

 
August 24, 2014

April 13-August 24,2014 and still no correction or clarification from Bishop Bernard Fellay http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/april-13-august-242014-and-still-no.html#links

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/02/bishop-fellay-uses-false-premise-when.html

Repost : The dogma says all need to convert for salvation. How can we presume that any one is an exception ?

FEBRUARY 23, 2015

The dogma says all need to convert for salvation. How can we presume that any one is an exception ?

 

Baptism of Blood, Baptism of Desire and Invincible Ignorance are completely irrelevant to The Church Millitant who do possess the truth and are commanded to teach the truth.

Lionel:

I agree with you when you say that the baptism of desire and blood are not exceptions to the dogma they are irrelevant.So we proclaim the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus , knowing there are no exceptions and there cannot be any exception for us human beings.

How do you reconcile this with the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257) saying 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'? This still is the issue in our discussions.

For me it is clear that Cardinal Ratzinger like Cardinal Marchetti did not know of any one who is saved outside the Church. So there cannot be any exception to the Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257 also saying the Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water.

 Since Cardinal Marchetti in 1949 assumed that the baptism of desire etc were known to us in personal cases and these persons were saved without the baptism of water, he concluded that there was salvation outside the Church.He did not know of any exception to the dogmatic teaching but inferred there was an exception.This was his mistake.The deceased cannot be exceptions.

So Lumen Gentium  14 and Ad Gentes  7, Vatican Council II  says only those who know need to enter the Church. This statement comes from the Marchetti Inference. It was an irrationality in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949, which he issued. Since the deceased who now in Heaven, cannot be exceptions to the dogma.We cannot name any one in 2015 who is in Heaven without the baptism of water and Catholic Faith.

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If you were simply to post: ENTER, RETURN and STAY as your Battle Cry, everything else gets addressed.

Lionel:

ENTER, RETURN AND STAY!

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If any Catholic tells you, me or anyone that we cannot or must not teach that all must enter, return or stay in the Catholic Church and be baptized with water in order to be saved they are in great need of proper Church catechesis or in very serious sin.

Lionel:

They are also possibily confused with the mistake made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.

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We the Church Millitant are commanded and completely embrace the truth that all Catholics must teach to ALL that that they must enter, stay or return to the Catholic Church and that they must have Baptism by water in order to be saved.
 Even if we presumed God forbid, that someone, anyone will be saved by Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood or Invincible Ignorance

Lionel:

Here we go again...Why must we presume this? How can we presume something only known to Jesus. The dogma says all need to convert for salvation. How can we presume that any one is an exception ?

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we must tell them, along with all Catholics and non Catholics that they must join the Catholic Church and have baptism by water in order to be saved for that is what Jesus commanded us to do.

Lionel:

Yes.

-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-dogma-says-all-need-to-convert-for.html

Repost : Another course offered at the Teresianum supported with the Marchetti Theory

FEBRUARY 6, 2015

Another course offered at the Teresianum supported with the Marchetti Theory

Father Aniano Alvarez Suarez is a Carmelite,who teaches a course Ecclesiology and Ecumenism, at the Pontifical University Teresianum in Rome and due to  the error of Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani which the Church has approved, he does not say that non Catholics need to enter the Church to avoid Hell.According to the Teresianum handbook (2014 p.84) the aim of the course is to present the mystery of the Church recalling anew, the essentials of Catholic ecclesiology seen through Lumen Gentium,Vatican Councl II.Here they mean that they will use the Marchetti Theory to present Lumen Gentium 8,14,16 etc as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and so with ecclesiology in general.With the Marchetti inference the Church has a new understanding of itself.

The handbook says there will be a re-evaluation of ecclesiology by considering anew Scripture, Tradition and the Magisterium. They mean that there will be a break with Scripture, Tradition and the Magisterium since now LG 8,LG 14,LG 16 will refer to persons in Heaven who are personally known to us in 2014-2015 for them to be exceptions to the dogma on salvation.They are exceptions to traditional ecclesiology and  contradict past teachings.

This was all made possible for the Teresianum not through Vatican Council II but the Marchetti inference which is used to interpret Vatican Council.

In this course (TP 1210) it will not be taught that Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes  7) itself says all non Catholics need to enter the Church with 'faith and baptism' for salvation.Since for Aniano Suarez and the Theology Faculty there was 'a breakthrough in Catholic theology' with the Marchetti inference.

During the course there will be a reflection on the dialogue of the Catholic Church with other Christian confessions the handbooks says.Students will be presented with the principal 'doctrines' of Catholic ecumenism it is stated.

 

The Faculty of Theology also presents another course this semester which recommends Jacques Dupuis, Von Baltazar, John Hick, Paul Knitter, Francis Sullivan and Hans Kung, all who reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and who support this rejection citing the Marchetti theory.1

-Lionel Andrades

  

1

February 4, 2015
Faculty of Theology,Teresianum University, Rome accepts the Marchetti error : promotes Jacques Dupuis,Von Baltazar, Hick, Knitter,Sullivan and Hans Kung

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/faculty-of-theologyteresianum.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/02/another-course-offered-at-teresianum.html

Repost : Response to Fr.John Zuhlsdorf's article on extra ecclesiam nulla salus

 FEBRUARY 9, 2015

Response to Fr.John Zuhlsdorf's article on extra ecclesiam nulla salus

Fr.John Zuhlsdorf interprets Vatican Council II with Marchetti's theory so the Council for him is ambigous and a break with extra ecclesiam nulla salus-1

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/frjohn-zuhlsdorf-interprets-vatican.html

 

Fr.John Zuhlsdorf interprets Vatican Council II with Marchetti's theory so the Council for him is ambigous and a break with extra ecclesiam nulla salus - 2

 

http://eucharistandssion.blogspot.it/2015/02/frjohn-zuhlsdorf-interprets-vatican_8.html

 

Fr.John Zuhlsdorf interprets Vatican Council II with Marchetti's theory so the Council for him is ambigous and a break with extra ecclesiam nulla salus - 3

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/frjohn-zuhlsdorf-interprets-vatican_9.html

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February 9, 2015

We now have heresy being supported by the magisterium.There is also an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/we-now-have-heresy-being-supported-by.html

 

February 9, 2015

Pope John Paul II also used the Marchetti irrationality to create a new theology in the Catholic Church

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/pope-john-paul-ii-also-used-marchetti.html

 

February 9, 2015

The Letter of the Holy Office is irrational and has no magisterial precedent for this new doctrine

ttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/the-letter-of-holy-office-is-irrational.html

February 9, 2015

Thomas Aquinas affirms the tradtional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/thomas-aquinas-affirms-tradtional.html

-Lionel Andrades

 http://wdtprs.com/blog/2015/02/ask-father-salvation-outside-the-church/#comments

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/02/response-to-frjohn-zuhlsdorfs-article.html

 

Pope Paul VI offered the first Mass in Italian unaware of the Marchetti error which discarded the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

 FEBRUARY 11, 2015

Pope Paul VI offered the first Mass in Italian unaware of the Marchetti error which discarded the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

When Pope Paul VI offered the first Mass in Italian(See photo. March 7, 1965) he was not aware of the error in the Marchetti letter of 1949 which discarded the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salusas it was interpreted over centuries.He was also not aware of an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II which would emerge.

The dogma was rejected with claims of the baptism of desire being an exception, since it was inferred that these cases were personally known to us, to be exceptions. This was an objective error of the pope since these persons saved as such are in Heaven and so could not be an exception to the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.

At this Mass not only had he done way with a defined dogma he has also replaced the Traditional Latin Mass with a new Mass.

These days (Feb.2015)  in Rome's churches there are preparations to celebrate the 50 th anniversary of that first Mass in Italian.

 

Since this first Mass priests can offer Holy Mass while denying the thrice defined dogma without it being considered an impediment to offering Holy Mass.

 

Since 1949 the Traditional Latin Mass was also offered with this change in Catholic Faith.The change was recorded in Vatican Council II.

 

Pope Paul VI did not correct the irrational interpretations of Vatican Council II. Lumen Gentium 16 ( saved in invincible ignorance or a good conscience) was assumed to refer to known cases who were explicit exceptions, to all needing to convert into the Catholic Church, with 'faith and baptism'. So Lumen Gentium  16 contradicted Ad Gentes  7 and Lumen Gentium 14( all need faith and baptism for salvation). Pope Paul VI , nor any one else complained.

The text of Vatican Council II does not state that there are known cases of persons saved in invincible ignorance( with or without the baptism of water). So if there are no known cases how can there be exceptions to the dogma ?. However this was the general interpretation not corrected by Pope Paul VI. Even the traditionalists did not notice this error when they criticized Vatican Council II, which they interpreted with the irrational premise.

 

Pope Paul VI never said that without  the irrational inference,without Marchetti's Theory, Vatican Council II is in agreement with the rigorist interpretation of the dogma according to Fr.Leonard Feeney, the Church Councils, popes and saints.

 

This was a major change in faith and liturgy.This  change in faith, we now know was a public heresy. Since the baptism of desire had nothing to do with the dogma. People in Heaven cannot be exceptions on earth! Yet with this reasoning Catholic faith was changed.

 

At the time Pope Paul VI was offering this Mass the excommunication of Fr.Leonard  Feeney was not lifted. Fr.Feeney refused to say that there were known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma.

Until today, there is no apology from the Vatican or the Jesuits, for the excommunication of Fr.Leonard Feeney. There were also four Catholic professors who were dismissed from Boston College, along with Fr.Leonard Feeney, for their traditional Catholic faith.The Jesuits in Rome will not comment.

 

Since 1965 the Novus Ordo Mass is being offered in Italy by priests who interpret Vatican Council II with the Marchetti inference and have changed the meaning in the Nicene Creed's  'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin' .All this is not an impediment to offering Holy Mass.

-Lionel Andrades

 

http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.it/2015/02/mark-your-calendars-for-7-march-2015.html

 

 

 

Paul VI among the people at All Saints, 7 March 1965.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/02/from-pope-paul-vi-to-pope-francis-can.html

Who can judge an Emperor Valentinian II today ?

From the blog The Lonely Pilgrim

St. Ambrose, by Matthias Stom (c.1600–c.1652) (WikiPaintings).

St. Ambrose on the Baptism of Desire

(51) But I hear that you grieve because he did not receive the
 sacrament of baptism. Tell me: What else is in your power
 other than the desire, the request?* But he even had this desire
for a long time, that, when he should come into Italy, he would be
 initiated, and recently he signified his desire to be baptized by
 me, and for this reason above all others he thought that I ought
to be summoned. Has he not, then, the grace which he desired; has
he not the grace which he requested? And because he asked, he
received, and therefore it is said: ‘By whatsoever death the just
 man shall be overtaken, his soul shall be at rest’ (Wisdom 4:7).

Continued http://lonelypilgrim.com/2013/09/23/st-ambrose-on-the-baptism-of-desire/

-Lionel Andrades