Tuesday, August 8, 2023

I am not trying to form a new group

 

It is important to understand that I am not trying to form a new group. Instead I am trying to show the mainline Catholic Church, the popes, cardinals and bishops that if they interpret Vatican Council II rationally, then this is the normal thing. The Church will follow them. There will be unity in theology and doctrine in the Church. It is normal to interpret Church Documents rationally. This is what people expect of them. If a father is irrational on a subject then his wife and even children will correct him. This is common sense.

So I am not trying to form a new group with a new theology. I am trying to show everyone that there is a philosophical mistake, an objective error which needs to be corrected and then everything falls into place and the Catholic Church becomes traditional once again.

It is like watering the root of a tree. One simple, single action enriches the whole tree. We do not have to tend to the leaves and the branches separately. Similarly, by correcting the irrational interpretation of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, the Church returns to past doctrines on salvation, traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation, traditional faith and morals, the old theology, the proclamation of the social reign of Christ the King based upon Feeneyite EENS and the non separation of Church and State based upon the past exclusivist ecclesiocentrism.It is automatic and immediate.

We return to the truth of our Faith on this one subject. It is like an entire mathematical or algebraic equation, corrects itself.

When there is a strong magnet, for example, the iron fillings around it adapt to the two poles and come into place automatically. Similarly when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally in Rome, whether they like it or not, all will have to come back to the old Faith. There is no choice. There is no new theology or reasoning which will support the present liberalism.    - Lionel Andrades



AUGUST 8, 2023

We have a discovery in the Catholic Church. It was not known in 1965.

 

We have a discovery in the Catholic Church. It was not known in 1965. It is a new way of looking at Vatican Council II which takes us back to the past. In a simple way we can always have the hermeneutic of continuity with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the Catechism of Pope Pius X and the rest of Tradition.

It is as simple as pressing a switch and turning it off or on. Anyone can check this out.

Vatican Council II : a meeting for a new Council which would be traditional and ecclesiocentric.

We do not any more have to interpret Vatican Council II like Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar, Kung, Balthazar, Ottaviani and Lefebvre. Pope Paul VI too is obsolete.

We have a new way of looking at the Council. It is an ethical way. We can be honest and the Council emerges traditional and ecclesiocentric. It is the only honest and rational interpretation of the Council, possible.

It is not the interpretation of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith.

All we have to do is interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being invisible and hypothetical cases in 2023. This is something obvious. It is common sense.

But then it means there are no physically visible examples of salvation outside the Church in 1965-2023. They can only be known to God.

So there are no exceptions for 'the ecumenism of return' of the Syllabus of Errors.

They gave us a Council in 1965 which would support the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX and the Catechism of Pope Pius X


There are no practical exceptions for the Athanasius Creed which says all need the Catholic faith for salvation.

We have returned to the past theology and faith and morals. We have returned to the traditional doctrines of the Church, as if Vatican Council II ( irrational ) did not happen.- Lionel Andrades

JULY 28, 2023

Things have changed in the Church. You can know more tell me that you justify your liberalism with Vatican Council, since I can justify my orthodoxy, also with Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/things-have-changed-in-church-you-can.html

TALKS ON VATICAN COUNCIL II BEING IN HARMONY WITH TRADITION AND THERE BEING TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE COUNCIL, ONE IS RATIONAL AND THE OTHER IS IRRATIONAL.

If you are a group of Catholics, liberal or traditionalist, I am willing to speak about this subject. I can present the material on this blog in an orderly way for you to understand quickly what I keep writing about. I available am in Rome ( only Rome) and there is no charge. The information will be given free. It will be illustrated with some graphics and photos.

I am a Catholic and I affirm the teachings of the Catholic Church as I have said often on this blog.

The difference between me and Catholics in general and also the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican,  is that they interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms, Councils etc  irrationally and I am rational.

I choose a rational premise and inference and so my conclusion is traditional.

The presentation could take 20 minutes or less.I will be available to answer questions.I do not have any new theology to offer. I simply avoid an irrational observation and we return to the old theology of the Magisterium and missionaries of the 16th century at the Latin Mass. This would be the general theology today, which is honest and rational, at every Mass and every Rite. It would have to be the lex orandi.

Please e-mail me at : lionelandrades10@gmail.com

p.s I do not have a telephone contact number and do not travel out of Rome.

ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH      SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.

Blog: http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/

Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter : @LionelAndrades1

Eucharistic Adoration at Medugorje 5/07/ 2023

 


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We have a discovery in the Catholic Church. It was not known in 1965.

 

We have a discovery in the Catholic Church. It was not known in 1965. It is a new way of looking at Vatican Council II which takes us back to the past. In a simple way we can always have the hermeneutic of continuity with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the Catechism of Pope Pius X and the rest of Tradition.

It is as simple as pressing a switch and turning it off or on. Anyone can check this out.

Vatican Council II : a meeting for a new Council which would be traditional and ecclesiocentric.

We do not any more have to interpret Vatican Council II like Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar, Kung, Balthazar, Ottaviani and Lefebvre. Pope Paul VI too is obsolete.

We have a new way of looking at the Council. It is an ethical way. We can be honest and the Council emerges traditional and ecclesiocentric. It is the only honest and rational interpretation of the Council, possible.

It is not the interpretation of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith.

All we have to do is interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being invisible and hypothetical cases in 2023. This is something obvious. It is common sense.

But then it means there are no physically visible examples of salvation outside the Church in 1965-2023. They can only be known to God.

So there are no exceptions for 'the ecumenism of return' of the Syllabus of Errors.

They gave us a Council in 1965 which would support the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX and the Catechism of Pope Pius X


There are no practical exceptions for the Athanasius Creed which says all need the Catholic faith for salvation.

We have returned to the past theology and faith and morals. We have returned to the traditional doctrines of the Church, as if Vatican Council II ( irrational ) did not happen.- Lionel Andrades


JULY 28, 2023

Things have changed in the Church. You can know more tell me that you justify your liberalism with Vatican Council, since I can justify my orthodoxy, also with Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/things-have-changed-in-church-you-can.html

TALKS ON VATICAN COUNCIL II BEING IN HARMONY WITH TRADITION AND THERE BEING TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE COUNCIL, ONE IS RATIONAL AND THE OTHER IS IRRATIONAL.

If you are a group of Catholics, liberal or traditionalist, I am willing to speak about this subject. I can present the material on this blog in an orderly way for you to understand quickly what I keep writing about. I available am in Rome ( only Rome) and there is no charge. The information will be given free. It will be illustrated with some graphics and photos.

I am a Catholic and I affirm the teachings of the Catholic Church as I have said often on this blog.

The difference between me and Catholics in general and also the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican,  is that they interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms, Councils etc  irrationally and I am rational.

I choose a rational premise and inference and so my conclusion is traditional.

The presentation could take 20 minutes or less.I will be available to answer questions.I do not have any new theology to offer. I simply avoid an irrational observation and we return to the old theology of the Magisterium and missionaries of the 16th century at the Latin Mass. This would be the general theology today, which is honest and rational, at every Mass and every Rite. It would have to be the lex orandi.

Please e-mail me at : lionelandrades10@gmail.com

p.s I do not have a telephone contact number and do not travel out of Rome.

ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH      SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.

Blog: http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/

Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter : @LionelAndrades1