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Get back to missionary doctrine with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally

 

MARCH 14, 2023

They can be missionary when they interpret Vatican Council II rationally. They must also reject the second part of the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO) and accept the first part of the LOHO.

 




The Vatican is not missionary.Neither is the Neo Cathechumenal Way of the Kiko Arguello missionary in the traditional sense.Neither are the Missionaries of Charity of Mother Teresa really missionary.They can be missionary when they interpret Vatican Council II rationally. They must also reject the second part of the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO) and accept the first part of the LOHO.

We have to choose between the first and second part of the LOHO. The second part contradicts the first part. The second part uses the fake premise and the first part affirms traditional EENS.So the LOHO, in the second half of the Document, rejects the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).It creates alleged exceptions.It creates exceptions by confusing what is invisible as being visible. Exceptions out of thin air!

When Pope Francis speaks about Evangelisation  he refers to a Christocentric and not Ecclesiocentric Church. It cannot be ecclesiocentris when there are 'known' exceptions for EENS.

Cardinal Tagle supports a New Ecumenism ( based upon the false premise). He welcomes Protestants in the same Church as the Roman Catholic Church. This is an initial step in creating a new world religion which later will include non-Christians too. The new one world religion will be without the 'burden' of mortal sin and Hell.There will be no mission. Since all religions will be paths to Heaven and there will be no Hell and sin. - Lionel Andrades

FIRST PART

Letter to the Archbishop of Boston

Author: CDF (Holy Office)

LETTER OF THE SACRED CONGREGATION OF THE HOLY OFFICE

Archbishop Richard J. Cushing

Given on August 8, 1949 explaining the true sense of Catholic doctrine that there is no salvation outside the Church.

This important Letter of the Holy Office is introduced by a letter of the Most Reverend Archbishop of Boston.

The Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office has examined again the problem of Father Leonard Feeney and St. Benedict Center. Having studied carefully the publications issued by the Center, and having considered all the circumstances of this case, the Sacred Congregation has ordered me to publish, in its entirety, the letter which the same Congregation sent me on the 8th of August, 1949. The Supreme Pontiff, His Holiness, Pope Pius XII, has given full approval to this decision. In due obedience, therefore, we publish, in its entirety, the Latin text of the letter as received from the Holy Office with an English translation of the same approved by the Holy See.

Given at Boston, Mass., the 4th day of September, 1952.

Walter J. Furlong, Chancellor

Richard J. Cushing, Archbishop of Boston.

LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE

From the Headquarters of the Holy Office, Aug. 8, 1949.

Your Excellency:

This Supreme Sacred Congregation has followed very attentively the rise and the course of the grave controversy stirred up by certain associates of "St. Benedict Center" and "Boston College" in regard to the interpretation of that axiom: "Outside the Church there is no salvation."

After having examined all the documents that are necessary or useful in this matter, among them information from your Chancery, as well as appeals and reports in which the associates of "St. Benedict Center" explain their opinions and complaints, and also many other documents pertinent to the controversy, officially collected, the same Sacred Congregation is convinced that the unfortunate controversy arose from the fact that the axiom, "outside the Church there is no salvation," was not correctly understood and weighed, and that the same controversy was rendered more bitter by serious disturbance of discipline arising from the fact that some of the associates of the institutions mentioned above refused reverence and obedience to legitimate authorities.

Accordingly, the Most Eminent and Most Reverend Cardinals of this Supreme Congregation, in a plenary session held on Wednesday, July 27, 1949, decreed, and the august Pontiff in an audience on the following Thursday, July 28, 1949, deigned to give his approval, that the following explanations pertinent to the doctrine, and also that invitations and exhortations relevant to discipline be given:

We are bound by divine and Catholic faith to believe all those things which are contained in the word of God, whether it be Scripture or Tradition, and are proposed by the Church to be believed as divinely revealed, not only through solemn judgment but also through the ordinary and universal teaching office (<Denzinger>, n. 1792).

Now, among those things which the Church has always preached and will never cease to preach is contained also that infallible statement by which we are taught that there is no salvation outside the Church.

However, this dogma must be understood in that sense in which the Church herself understands it. For, it was not to private judgments that Our Savior gave for explanation those things that are contained in the deposit of faith, but to the teaching authority of the Church.

Now, in the first place, the Church teaches that in this matter there is question of a most strict command of Jesus Christ. For He explicitly enjoined on His apostles to teach all nations to observe all things whatsoever He Himself had commanded (Matt. 28: 19-20).

Now, among the commandments of Christ, that one holds not the least place by which we are commanded to be incorporated by baptism into the Mystical Body of Christ, which is the Church, and to remain united to Christ and to His Vicar, through whom He Himself in a visible manner governs the Church on earth.

Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.

Not only did the Savior command that all nations should enter the Church, but He also decreed the Church to be a means of salvation without which no one can enter the kingdom of eternal glory.

In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects, necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing. This we see clearly stated in the Sacred Council of Trent, both in reference to the sacrament of regeneration and in reference to the sacrament of penance (<Denzinger>, nn. 797, 807).

  

     SECOND PART


The same in its own degree must be asserted of the Church, in as far as she is the general help to salvation. 
Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing.

However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God.

These things are clearly taught in that dogmatic letter which was issued by the Sovereign Pontiff, Pope Pius XII, on June 29, 1943, <On the Mystical Body of Jesus Christ> (AAS, Vol. 35, an. 1943, p. 193 ff.). For in this letter the Sovereign Pontiff clearly distinguishes between those who are actually incorporated into the Church as members, and those who are united to the Church only by desire.

Discussing the members of which the Mystical Body is-composed here on earth, the same august Pontiff says: "Actually only those are to be included as members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith, and who have not been so unfortunate as to separate themselves from the unity of the Body, or been excluded by legitimate authority for grave faults committed."

Toward the end of this same encyclical letter, when most affectionately inviting to unity those who do not belong to the body of the Catholic Church, he mentions those who "are related to the Mystical Body of the Redeemer by a certain unconscious yearning and desire," and these he by no means excludes from eternal salvation, but on the other hand states that they are in a condition "in which they cannot be sure of their salvation" since "they still remain deprived of those many heavenly gifts and helps which can only be enjoyed in the Catholic Church" (AAS, 1. c., p. 243). With these wise words he reproves both those who exclude from eternal salvation all united to the Church only by implicit desire, and those who falsely assert that men can be saved equally well in every religion (cf. Pope Pius IX, Allocution, <Singulari quadam>, in <Denzinger>, n. 1641 ff.; also Pope Pius IX in the encyclical letter, <Quanto conficiamur moerore>, in <Denzinger>, n. 1677).

But it must not be thought that any kind of desire of entering the Church suffices that one may be saved. It is necessary that the desire by which one is related to the Church be animated by perfect charity. Nor can an implicit desire produce its effect, unless a person has supernatural faith: "For he who comes to God must believe that God exists and is a rewarder of those who seek Him" (Heb. 11:6). The Council of Trent declares (Session VI, chap. 8): "Faith is the beginning of man's salvation, the foundation and root of all justification, without which it is impossible to please God and attain to the fellowship of His children" (Denzinger, n. 801).

From what has been said it is evident that those things which are proposed in the periodical <From the Housetops>, fascicle 3, as the genuine teaching of the Catholic Church are far from being such and are very harmful both to those within the Church and those without.

From these declarations which pertain to doctrine, certain conclusions follow which regard discipline and conduct, and which cannot be unknown to those who vigorously defend the necessity by which all are bound' of belonging to the true Church and of submitting to the authority of the Roman Pontiff and of the Bishops "whom the Holy Ghost has placed . . . to rule the Church" (Acts 20:28).

Hence, one cannot understand how the St. Benedict Center can consistently claim to be a Catholic school and wish to be accounted such, and yet not conform to the prescriptions of canons 1381 and 1382 of the Code of Canon Law, and continue to exist as a source of discord and rebellion against ecclesiastical authority and as a source of the disturbance of many consciences.

Furthermore, it is beyond understanding how a member of a religious Institute, namely Father Feeney, presents himself as a "Defender of the Faith," and at the same time does not hesitate to attack the catechetical instruction proposed by lawful authorities, and has not even feared to incur grave sanctions threatened by the sacred canons because of his serious violations of his duties as a religious, a priest, and an ordinary member of the Church.

Finally, it is in no wise to be tolerated that certain Catholics shall claim for themselves the right to publish a periodical, for the purpose of spreading theological doctrines, without the permission of competent Church authority, called the "<imprimatur,>" which is prescribed by the sacred canons.

Therefore, let them who in grave peril are ranged against the Church seriously bear in mind that after "Rome has spoken" they cannot be excused even by reasons of good faith. Certainly, their bond and duty of obedience toward the Church is much graver than that of those who as yet are related to the Church "only by an unconscious desire." Let them realize that they are children of the Church, lovingly nourished by her with the milk of doctrine and the sacraments, and hence, having heard the clear voice of their Mother, they cannot be excused from culpable ignorance, and therefore to them apply without any restriction that principle: submission to the Catholic Church and to the Sovereign Pontiff is required as necessary for salvation.

In sending this letter, I declare my profound esteem, and remain,

Your Excellency's most devoted,

F. Cardinal Marchetti-Selvaggiani.

A. Ottaviani, Assessor.

(Private); Holy Office, 8 Aug., 1949.



Boston Heresy Case refers to historic magisterial heresy in the Catholic Church :practical consequences in the archdiocese of Palermo

https://gloria.tv/post/qf1sj8Q96Ttc11Xueq6ADBzVg


Lay Catholics must reject the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office conclusion : expedient religious are teaching it in Catechism classes

https://www.gloria.tv/post/Myp7rTuaoX7X3iiQmhSw8o989



SSPX and sedevacantist websites consider invisible for us BOD, BOB and I.I as being visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS : theology at the Catholic Identity Confc.

https://www.gloria.tv/post/jbvpxsS98cRb2YAvLhhzQdkHf




  1. YOUTUBE VIDEO DOES NOT SAY ALL NEED TO ENTER THE CHURCH BUT ONLY THOSE WHO KNOW ABOUT THE CHURCH
    Fra. Joseph Mary FFI of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate,USA seems to have succumbed to the propaganda on the secular media on outside the Church there is no salvation and has produced a video on You tube.

    His conclusion is that the Catholic Church is founded by Jesus. Man has a moral obligation to seek out this church and to enter it. He says outside of the True Church there is no salvation. “By this we don’t mean that just because (1:34) someone is not a Catholic there automatically is no hope of salvation”.

    “Those are outside the Church who know and are convinced that the Catholic Church is the Church which Jesus founded but still don’t become one of her members. Then secondly those are outside the Church who through their own serious neglect don’t realize that the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus founded and they refuse to even consider the Catholic Church’s claim to be the true Church”.

    The dogmatic teaching is that all non Catholics need to enter the Church to avoid Hell. This is the official teaching of the Catholic Church for centuries.

    The official teaching is that everyone on earth needs to enter the Church and if there is anyone in invincible ignorance as compared to those who ‘know’, then these exceptions will be known only to God.

    Those who know and do not enter as compared to those in invincible ignorance are known only to God. The general rule is that every one needs Catholic Faith and the baptism of water to go to Heaven (Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II, Cantate Domino, Council of Florence, Dominus Iesus 20 etc). There can be exceptions known only to God.

    Fr. Joseph Mary probably believes that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy. It is not known if he has read the dogma Cantate Domino. Also Lumen Gentium 16’s reference to non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance does not contradict Cantate Domino or Ad Gentes 7.

    Those who ‘know’, those in invincible ignorance and those who are in partial communion with the Church are cases which can only be accepted by us in principle, as a concept. They can never be de facto for us.

    Since they are not de facto known to us they do not contradict the ex cathedra dogma Cantate Domino which says every one must be a formal member of the Church.

    If only those who know and do not enter are oriented to Hell according to Vatican Council II (Lumen Gentium 14) then LG 14 contradicts Ad Gentes 7 which says all people need the baptism of water for salvation. It would also mean that Lumen Gentium 14 contradicts the dogma Cantate Domino on outside the Church there is no salvation.

    It doesn’t make sense.

    It is important that Bro. Joseph read Cantate Domino and compare it with Ad Gentes 7. When he can affirm it then consider the subject, outside the Church there is no salvation.

    The Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 says all need to enter the Church as if entering through a door.

    So even if there is someone saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire it does not contradict CCC 846 that all need to enter the Church as through a door.

    CCC 845 repeats St.Thomas Aquinas in saying that the Church is like the only Ark of Noah that saves in the flood. This is what the secular hostile media calls ‘the rigorist interpretation’ of the dogma.

    There can be only one interpretation and the centuries-old interpretation is the same as Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church 845,846.

    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/06/youtube-video-does-not-say-all-need-to.html

  2. Monday, November 14, 2011
    IS THE SSPX MASS VALID? YES, BUT THE PRIEST COULD BE IN MORTAL SIN FOR REJECTING A DEFINED DOGMA WITH HIS ‘EXCEPTIONS’
    There are conditions for offering the Tridentine Rite Mass. Are they being met by the SSPX ?

    The Society of St.Pius X(SSPX) priests offer the Tridentine Rite Mass and consider the baptism of desire and those saved in invincible ignorance as exceptions to the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.They are in the same position as the priests who offer the Novus Ordo Mass in different languages.

    However the SSPX claims on its website that they affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They also imply that those saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are explicitly known to us and so it is an exception to the dogmatic teaching. This is a denial, a rejection of the dogma.

    The baptism of desire is always implicit. It would have to be explicitly known to conflict with the dogma outside the church there is no salvation. Yet this is implied in the articles by Fr.Francois Laisney and Fr.Peter Scott. Since these cases are hidden they are really not exceptions. There are no defacto exceptions. If we consider them as exceptions it would mean we can meet non Catholics on the street saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. You could say to such a person whom you meet, “ Hi John, I’m glad you were saved with the baptism of desire you arose from the dead and returned to live with us once again. I heard the same thing happened with your sister Francesca”.

    Invincible Ignorance and the baptism of desire are not exceptions to the dogma but explicitly known invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are exceptions.So one has to imply that the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are explicitly known. We have to assume that we can meet someone on the street saved with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance. Only because it is ‘explicitly known’ is it an exception to the dogma.If it was implicit it would not be an exception. The SSPX website says Fr.Leonard Feeney was wrong since those saved with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are exceptions to the dogma.

    Fr. Leonard Feeney was correct in saying there were no exceptions to the dogmatic teaching. The dogma does not mention exceptions. Neither does Vatican Council II refer to explicit, visible cases of those saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire. It refers to implicit cases known to God only.
    There are conditions for offering the Tridentine Rite Mass. Are they being met by the SSPX ?
    -Lionel Andrades

    NO TRIDENTINE RITE MASS WITHOUT EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/no-tridentine-rite-mass-without-extra.html#links

    PRIESTS WHO OFFER TRIDENTINE-RITE AND NOVUS ORDO MASS AGREE THAT WE DO NOT DEFACTO KNOW A SINGLE CASE OF THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE: WE HAVE UNITY ON OUTSIDE THE CHURCH NO SALVATION
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/06/priests-who-offer-tridentine-rite-and.html#links

    FR.FRANCOIS LAISNEY OF THE SOCIETY OF ST.PIUS X SAYS THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS HAS EXCEPTIONS. THIS IS HERESY
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/11/frfrancois-laisney-of-society-of-stpius.html#links

    NORMS FOR THE TRIDENTINE RITE MASS VIOLATED ?

    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/norms-for-tridentine-rite-mass-violated.html

    NON CATHOLICS CAN BE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE, BAPTISM OF DESIRE AND IT DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS- Daphne McLeod, Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice, England
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/non-catholics-can-be-saved-in.html

    INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE AND THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE ARE NOT EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA BUT A BOOK SOLD BY THE SSPX SAYS THEY ARE
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/11/invincible-ignorance-and-baptism-of.html#links

    FR. PETER SCOTT, SSPX NEED TO ISSUE A CLARIFICATION: HOW CAN THOSE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE AND THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE BE EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA?
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/11/fr-peter-scott-sspx-need-to-issue.html

    DAPHNE MCLEOD COMMENT A BOMBSHELL FOR ENGLISH BISHOPS?

    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/daphne-mcleod-comment-bombshell-for.html

    SSPX CONSIDERS THOSE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE AND WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE AS EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS THIS IS HERESY

    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/sspx-considers-those-saved-in.html

    SSPX IN HERESY CALLS ATTENTION TO HERESY AT ASSISI
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/sspx-in-heresy-calls-attention-to.html#links

    SSPX CLARIFY FOR US WHAT IS YOUR DOCTRINAL POSITION ON THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/09/sspx-clarify-for-us-what-is-your.html#links

    CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS IS DE FIDE AND NOT CONTRADICTED BY VATICAN COUNCIL II- Fr. Nevus Marcello O.P
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/cantate-domino-council-of-florence-on.html

    BRAZILIAN PRIEST SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/brazilian-priest-says-vatican-council.html#links

    PONTIFICAL COUNCIL FOR CHRISTIAN UNITY INDICATES POPES, SAINTS IN HERESY
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/pontifical-council-for-christian-unity.html

    Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity claims Pope Pius XII condemned the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus :suggests those in invincible ignorance are explicitly known to us and so contradicts the dogma
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/pontifical-council-for-promoting.html

    Vatican website for clergy promotes ‘theology of religions’, Kung and Knitter : claims Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for the same interpretation of the dogma as the popes and saints
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/vatican-webste-for-clergy-promotes.html

    CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/08/catholic-priests-in-rome-agree-with.html#links

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-Lionel Andrades


 MAY 12, 2018


Repost : There is a mistake in Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus : objective mistake

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/05/repost-there-is-mistake-in-redemptoris.html

It can be changed. 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
 
-Lionel Andrades