We don’t need the Kasper-Fellay version of Vatican Council II.

 

Vatican Council II supports the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). So why is religious liberty an issue? It is not.

Why must the New Ecumenism be an issue? The Council supports an ecumenism of return only.

Why is there concern over the New Missal for the traditionalists? The Council can only be interpreted with the old ecclesiology of the 1962 Missal.There is no other rational choice.

Where is there a New Theology when the Council agrees with Feeneyite EENS? There is no liberalism when the Council is interpreted rationally.

So why must Vatican Council II be interpreted dishonestly and politically ? Why must we follow Bishop Bernard Fellay and Cardinal Walter Kasper?

We have a choice. If Vatican Council II is Anti Semitic then so is the Bible, the Catechisms, the Creeds and Jesus Christ.We have a Council which is not a break with Tradition.We don’t need the Kasper-Fellay version of Vatican Council II. - Lionel Andrades

At least now it has been confirmed that CMTV and the SSPX have been interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and politically to avoid the Anti Semitism charge and so protect their finances and existence.

 

At least now it has been confirmed that CMTV and the SSPX have been interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and politically to avoid the Anti Semitism charge and so protect their finances and existence. They can stop saying that they follow Tradition. They can also stop saying that the pope’s interpretation of the Council is magisterial, when he is really irrational and unethical like them. He chooses the False Premise to create a break with Tradition and please the Left.Otherwise, with the rational premise he would be a traditionalist. He would be affirming the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) like in the 12th to 16th century.But then he would be Anti Semitic and would be persecuted.

It is the same with the cardinals. They can interpret Vatican Council II rationally and affirm Tradition. But then they would be expelled.They have to choose. They stay on as cardinals but are dishonest. - Lionel Andrades

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Theoretical possibilities of salvation are not exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). Invisible people in 2023 cannot be exceptions for the past ecclesiology. There has to be an explicit case, an objective case for there to be an exception. Someone seen in the flesh, who has been saved outside the Church, is an exception. But we humans cannot see or meet someone saved outside the Church. We do not know and cannot know of a particular case on earth in the present times.

 

Theoretical  possibilities of salvation are not exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). Invisible people in 2023 cannot be exceptions for the past ecclesiology. There  has to be an explicit case, an objective case for there to be an exception. Someone seen in the flesh, who has been saved outside the Church, is an exception. But we humans cannot see or meet someone saved outside the Church. We do not know and cannot know of a particular case on earth in the present times.

We can accept hypothetical cases of being saved with the baptism of desire(BOD) and in invincible ignorance(I.I), since we cannot project them as exceptions for EENS.This was the mistake in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston. BOD and I.I cannot contradict EENS.

LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, in Vatican Council II are always hypothetical. Fine. Don’t project them as an exception for the Athanasius Creed and the Catechisms which support Feeneyite EENS. This would be false reasoning and fake new doctrine.- Lionel Andrades

The Institute of Good Shepherd and Ecclesia Dei communities are on track with the Left at the Latin Mass.

 

Even the Institute of the Good Shepherd and other Ecclesia Dei  religious communities now offer  the Latin Mass with the 1962 Missal but  interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms with the irrational premise and inference, to produce a politically correct nontraditional conclusion.It is heretical and schismatics . This is official and public. There is no denial from any of them

The Institute of Good Shepherd and Ecclesia Dei communities are on track with the Left at the Latin Mass. –Lionel Andrades

APRIL 7, 2023

Institute of Good Shepherd priest offering the Latin Mass in the Diocese of Manchester needs to affirm Vatican Council II in harmony with 12th century EENS

 

MORTAL SIN OF FAITH

At the church of St. Stanislaus in New Hampshire, USA, Fr. Hugues Beaugrand, IBP, of the Institute of the Good Shepherd is the Pastor and offers the Latin Mass there. The bishop of is Peter Libasci, of the Diocese of Manchester, in New Hampshire. Bishop Libasci and Fr. Beaugrand interpret Vatican Council II, the baptism of desire, being saved in invincible ignorance, the Creeds, Catechisms and other Magisterial Documents, with the common false premise approved by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican. The expected result is heresy on the Creeds and Catechisms and schism with the pre-1949 Magisterium over the centuries. This is a mortal sin of faith.

VATICAN COUNCIL II CAN BE INTERPRETED RATIONALLY AND ETHICALLY

Vatican Council II can be interpreted rationally, traditionally, ethically and non-schismatically by Bishop Libasci and Fr. Beaugrand.

In the past, lay Catholics would attend the Latin Mass at the chapel of the St. Benedict Center, Richmond, NH.

They are now directed to the St. Stanislaus parish after the CDF and the Diocese of Manchester closed down the chapel at the St. Benedict Center, for political left reasons.

CANON LAW EXPECTS PASTOR AND BISHOP TO AFFIRM CHURCH TEACHINGS

The problem is that a bishop of parish priest, rector or pastor of a church, according to Canon Law is expected to affirm the teachings of the Church. Otherwise he cannot hold his office. He is also expected to affirm the original meaning of the Creeds etc.otherwise he is not allowed to offer Holy Mass.

Bishop Peter Libasci and Fr. Beaugrand are today re-interpreting irrationally the Creeds, Catechisms, Church Councils which defined the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the Catechism of Pope Pius X and the Catechism of Trent which affirmed the dogma EENS.Then they teach this. 

They re-interpret these Magisterial Documents irrationally and not rationally. In this way they produce a fake rupture with Tradition (Creeds, Councils, EENS etc).It is politically correct with the Left.It is approved by Cardinal Sean O Malley, the Archbishop of Boston. The diocese of Manchester is a suffragan diocese of the Archdiocese of Boston. 

INTERPRETATION OF CREEDS IS NOT CATHOLIC

The interpretation of the Nicene, Apostles and Athanasius Creed by the CDF and the Diocese of Manchester, is not Catholic. It is first class heresy in the hierarchy of truths of Pope John Paul II‘s, Ad Tuendum Fidem.

PUBLIC SCANDAL FOR INSTITUTE OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD

The pastor at St. Stanislaus is in scandal. He does not have the right to administer the Sacraments until he, and the Institute of the Good Shepherd, and Bishop Libasci,  correct the public scandal. 

The pastor must tell Catholics to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so honestly. The Superior General of the Institute of the Good Shepherd is Fr. Luis Gabriel Barrero.Their General House is located in Courtlain, France, where they also have their seminary.

Vatican Council II has the hermeneutic of continuity with the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) for me. The Council can only be interpreted rationally for me. So LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to only hypothetical and invisible cases in 2023 and so are not practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the 12^th to 16^th century. The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance refer to hypothetical and theoretical cases only. They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church. So they do not contradict Feeneyite EENS. They are not exceptions.

The St. Benedict Center chapel in Richmond, NH which was closed by the diocese and the CDF.

 The 1949 Letter of the Holy Office made a mistake when it confused invisible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance as being visible exceptions for the EENS according to the St. Benedict Center.

Vatican Council II has a continuity with Tradition for me but not for EWTN, Cardinals Greco and Hollerich, Sister Nathalie Bequart, the Society of St. Pius X and Pope Francis. For them, and the CDF and the Archdiocese of Boston, the Council is a rupture with Tradition.

BISHOP AND PASTOR NEED TO AFFIRM EENS LIKE BROTHER ANDRE MARIE MICM

When the bishop and pastor in the diocese of Manchester interpret Vatican Council II rationally then they will be affirming the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, like Brother Andre Marie micm, and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, NH, against whom the CDF and Bishop Libasci have issued a Decree of Prohibitions.

Brother Andre Marie interprets EENS like the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) of Pope Honorious at the time St. Dominic Guzman founded the Dominican Order of Preachers. This Council does not mention any exceptions for the dogma EENS.

Brother Andre Marie micm also interprets Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and Councils with the irational premise and inference. So the Council has a continuity and not rupture with Tradition. -Lionel Andrades

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Cardinal Raymond Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schneider are not interpreting Vatican Council II rationally otherwise they will be accused of being Anti Semitic.

 

Cardinal Raymond Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schneider are not interpreting Vatican Council II rationally otherwise they will be accused of being Anti Semitic. They will have to be expelled by Pope Francis. Also they are not correcting the error on Vatican Council II, among others, for then they would have to affirm the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus, themselves. So they are looking after their interests and are allowing error to be taught among Catholics, for political reasons. – Lionel Andrades

Archbishop Augustine di Noia, the American Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican has not denied that he is interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally for political reasons and that this is dishonest, nontraditional and not Catholic.

 

Archbishop Augustine di Noia op, the Dominican American Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican has not denied that he is interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally for political reasons and that this is dishonest, nontraditional and not Catholic. It is unethical. He is also forcing this interpretation of the Council and the Catechism of the Catholic Church upon the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA. -Lionel Andrades