Sunday, May 14, 2023
Pope Francis must interpret Vatican Council II with the red not being an exception for the blue i.e. the red hypothetical passages are not practical exceptions for the orthodox blue passages which are in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).This is the rational and honest interpretation of the Council. There is no other alternative.
Pope Francis must interpret Vatican Council II with the red not being an exception for the blue i.e. the red hypothetical passages are not practical exceptions for the orthodox blue passages which are in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).This is the rational and honest interpretation of the Council. There is no other alternative. The pope from Paul VI made a mistake when they interpreted the Council with the red being an exception for the blue.
All Magisterial Documents must only be interpreted with the red not being an exception for the blue. It is unethical to expect the whole Church to interpret Magisterial Documents irrationally with the red being an exception for the blue. This is a fake break with Tradition.
Even
the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and the sedevacantist bishops are interpreting
all Magisterial Documents with the red being an exception for the blue and then
wrongly project the blame on Vatican Council II. For me the Council is not a
break with Tradition since the red is not being an exception for the blue is
the only option we have. The irrational interpretation is not an option.
In
the diocese of Worcester, USA Bishop Robert McManus, interprets Vatican Council
II with the red being an exception for the blue . Even Brother Thomas Augustine
micm, the Superior of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St.
Benedict Center in this diocese interprets the Council irrationally, like the
bishop.
In
the diocese of Manchester in New Hampshire, USA , Bishop Peter Libasci
interprets Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the
baptism of desire etc, with the red being an exception to the blue. This is a
mistake of the Curia too there. Brother Andre Marie micm, Superior of the
Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Center, Richmond,
New Hampshire, in the diocese of Bishop Libasci, interpret Vatican Council II rationally.
At
the Synods they must stop interpreting Vatican Council II with the red being an
exception for the blue. The non traditional conclusion cannot be used to
justify innovation in faith and morals.
Cardinal
Hollerich and Cardinal Grech must only interpret Vatican Council II rationally
and so return to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church with
traditional doctrines on homosexuality etc. - Lionel Andrades
For the SSPX the red is still an exception for the blue. This is irrational. For me the red is not an exception for the blue.
-Lionel Andrades
- Red being an exception to the blue -Vatican Documents (1)
- Red is an exception to the blue-Bologna School/ Fr.John Zuhlsdorf (4)
- Red is not an exception to the blue - Proclamation (2)
- Red is not an exception to the blue - profances Holy Mass (1)
- Red is not an exception to the blue :CCC 846-848 (4)
- Red not an exception to blue mapping (1)
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/the-oblates-of-st-joseph-are.html
THE RED IS NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BLUE
Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him...- Ad Gentes 7. Vatican Council II
THE RED IS NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BLUE
14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.
They are fully incorporated in the society of the Church who, possessing the Spirit of Christ accept her entire system and all the means of salvation given to her, and are united with her as part of her visible bodily structure and through her with Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. The bonds which bind men to the Church in a visible way are profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical government and communion. He is not saved, however, who, though part of the body of the Church, does not persevere in charity. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but, as it were, only in a "bodily" manner and not "in his heart."(12*) All the Church's children should remember that their exalted status is to be attributed not to their own merits but to the special grace of Christ. If they fail moreover to respond to that grace in thought, word and deed, not only shall they not be saved but they will be the more severely judged.(13*)
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
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THE RED IS NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BLUE
Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848
"Outside the Church there is no salvation" 846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
- Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
- Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
-Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848
THE RED IS NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BLUE
DOMINUS IESUS
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THE RED IS NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BLUE
Now, among those things which the Church has always preached and will never cease to preach is contained also that infallible statement by which we are taught that there
is no salvation outside the Church.
However, this dogma must be understood in that sense in which the Church herself understands it. For, it was not to private judgments that Our Savior gave for explanation those things that are contained in the deposit of faith, but to the teaching authority of the Church...
which is the Church, and to remain united to Christ and to His Vicar, through whom He Himself in a visible manner governs the Church on earth...
Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.
Not only did the Savior command that all nations should enter the Church, but He also decreed the Church to be a means of salvation without which no one can enter the kingdom of eternal glory.
In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects,necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic
necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing. This we see clearly stated in the Sacred Council of Trent, both in reference to the sacrament of regeneration and in reference to the sacrament of penance (, nn. 797, 807).
However, this desire need not always be explicit,as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God.