An ecumenism or return to Catholicism is not impossible it is the only rational choice when Vatican Council II is interpreted with the blue passages and not the red.Pope Francis and Cardinal Marx cannot interpret the Creeds, Catechisms, extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Vatican Council II and the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance,with the false premies, inferernce and conclusion and expect all Catholics to do the same

 An ecumenism or return to Catholicism is not impossible it is the only rational choice when Vatican Council II is interpreted with the blue passages and not the red.Pope Francis and Cardinal Marx cannot interpret the Creeds, Catechisms, extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Vatican Council II and the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance,with the false premies, inferernce and conclusion and expect all Catholics to do the same.- Lionel Andrades

German cardinal: Ecumenism of return to Catholicism ‘is completely impossible’

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/german-cardinal-ecumenism-of-return-to-catholicism-is-completely-impossible?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=standard

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion

So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Pius XII and the Holy Office(CDF) made an objective mistake.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021

They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion

They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.

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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion

Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Paul VI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, made an objective error.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise

 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion

Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-L.A

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Lionel Andrades,

Catholic lay man in Rome, 

Writer on the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.One is rational and the other irrational, one has the false premise and the other is without it,

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

blog: Eucharist and Mission

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The liberal and Lefebvrist Cushingites prevented a Restoration/Renewal in the Catholic Church

 

The ball is in the court of the Feeneyites ( those who intepret Vatican Council II and EENS without a false premise).Times have changed.The Lefebvrist-Cushingite theological model,which has to use the false premise, has a recognised flaw.Obsolete.

The liberal and Lefebvrist Cushingites prevented a Restoration/Renewal in the Catholic Church.

We have to get back to the old Feeneyite philosophy and theology of the popes and saints over the centuries.

It is your move now. We can choose the rational, old theology since :-

Invisible cases are just invisible.

Unknown people are not known exceptions to EENS.

No one saw St.Emerentiana in Heaven without the baptism of water.

How can a pope who says LG 8, LG 14, LG 1, UR 3 etc in Vatican Council II refers to physically visible cases in 1965-2021, be Magisterial ?

How can a pope or cardinal use a false premise and be Magisterial ?

How can the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 be Magisterial when it assumed being saved with  invisible baptism of desire and invincible ignorance, were visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS ?

Where are the baptism of desire cases in 2021, who has seen them ?

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not Magisterial on Vatican Council II since they use the false premise instead of avoiding it.

The Catechectical Centers all over the world are not Magisterial on Vatican Council II since they do not interpret the Council without the irrationality. The Holy Spirit cannot make an objective mistake.

The Catholic Bishops Conferences all over the world are not Magisterial on Vatican Council II- and also the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance, the Catechisms and Creeds and EENS, since the use the fakes premise to create a fake rupture with Tradition(EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).

There would be nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the strict interpretation of EENS, if the false premise was avoided by the present two popes. 

They would emerge conservative and traditionalist.

They would be Feeneyite.-Lionel Andrades

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion

So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Pius XII and the Holy Office(CDF) made an objective mistake.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021

They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion

They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.

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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion

Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Paul VI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, made an objective error.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise

 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion

Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-L.A

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Lionel Andrades,

Catholic lay man in Rome, 

Writer on the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.One is rational and the other irrational, one has the false premise and the other is without it,

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

blog: Eucharist and Mission

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Cardinal Michael L. Fitzgerald and Cindy Wooden's interpretation of Vatican Council II is unethical

 The apostolic visit of Pope Francis to the people of Iraq during March 5-8, 2021—his first international journey since the COVID-19 pandemic began and perhaps his most significant—was a pastoral success for the diverse Christian communities there and a game-changing step in relations with Muslims. Pope Francis drew attention to the martyrdom, displacement, and destruction experienced by Christians, Muslims, and Yazidis—an “ecumenism of blood” to which he often refers—and offered messages and prayers for peace and reconciliation. Ayatollah Sayyid Al-Sistani opened a significant channel of communication inviting Pope Francis to a rare private meeting. Together, they discussed human fraternity, religious views in common, and dialogue and peaceful accompaniment according to the PISAI website.

Cardinal Michael L. Fitzgerald, M.Afr., a speaker on Christian-Muslim relations and  Cindy Wooden, Rome bureau chief for Catholic News Service shared their thoughts,in Rome.

Un like the the two speakers, the interpretation of Vatican Council II , for me, supports the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.I interpret the Council with a rational premise, inference and conclusion.

The two speakers use an irrationality to project Vatican Council II as a rupture with the ecclesiology of the Jesuits in the 16th century. So they do not call for traditional Mission. 

Their interpretation of Magisterial documents is unethical as is the professors at Jesuit Georgetown University, USA and the Australian Catholic University.-Lionel Andrades

https://georgetown.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_qUkST-taRK6JvXdiEToO-w

https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/events/the-visit-of-pope-francis-to-iraq

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BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion

So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Pius XII and the Holy Office(CDF) made an objective mistake.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021

They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion

They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.

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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion

Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Paul VI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, made an objective error.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise

 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion

Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-L.A

_____________________

Lionel Andrades,

Catholic lay man in Rome, 

Writer on the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.One is rational and the other irrational, one has the false premise and the other is without it,

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

blog: Eucharist and Mission

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The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican needs to clarify that Alberto Melloni's interpretation of Vatican Council II, at the Bologna School, with the false premise is not Magisterial.It is schismatic and heretical.The false premise and inference creates a non traditional conclusion

 The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican needs to clarify that Alberto Melloni's  interpretation of Vatican Council II, at the Bologna School, with the false premise is not Magisterial.It is schismatic and heretical.The false premise and inference creates a non traditional conclusion.  - Lionel Andardes

 MAY 9, 2021

Prof.Alberto Melloni still interprets Vatican Council II with the fake premise and he is collecting money from the Italian government of President Sergio Mattarella and Prime Minister Mario Draghi.The cardinal-archbishop of Bologna, Matteo Zuppi is silent on this irregularity

Prof.Alberto Melloni is still interpreting Vatican Council II with the fake premise and he is collecting money from the Italian government of President Sergio Mattarella and Prime Minister Mario Draghi.The cardinal-archbishop of Bologna, Matteo Zuppi is silent on this irregularity. -Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/profalberto-melloni-is-still.html

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BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion

So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Pius XII and the Holy Office(CDF) made an objective mistake.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021

They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion

They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.

__________

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion

Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Paul VI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, made an objective error.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise

 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion

Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-L.A

_____________________

Lionel Andrades,

Catholic lay man in Rome, 

Writer on the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.One is rational and the other irrational, one has the false premise and the other is without it,

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

blog: Eucharist and Mission

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The liberals appreciate it when the Council II is interpreted as a rupture with Tradition instead of a continuity with the strict interpretation of EENS

Dr.Joseph Shaw, Una Voce, Latin Mass Societies of England and Wales, the great Daphne Mcleoad, and the good editor of Catholic Truth from Scotland, want to continue to continue to interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms, EENS etc with the false premise. It is approved by the Left and the Vatican. The liberals appreciate it when the Council II is interpreted as a rupture with Tradition instead of a continuity with the strict interpretation of EENS. -Lionel Andrades

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion

So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Pius XII and the Holy Office(CDF) made an objective mistake.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021

They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion

They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.

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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion

Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Paul VI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, made an objective error.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise

 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion

Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-L.A

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Lionel Andrades,

Catholic lay man in Rome, 

Writer on the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.One is rational and the other irrational, one has the false premise and the other is without it,

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

blog: Eucharist and Mission

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Risposta a “Le Iene” sul servizio “Missione Medjugorje” - Saverio Gaeta

The study of Scripture at the Pontificio Istituto Biblico,Rome is false.They use a false theology, created with the false premise to re-interpret Scripture.The result is a rupture with Tradition and the past Magisterium

The study of Scripture( exegesis) at the Biblicum, Rome (Pontificio Istituto Biblico - Pontifical Biblical Institute ) is false since they use a false theology, created with the red passages ( the false premise, inference and conclusion ). With this error they re-interpret Scripture to create a rupture with Tradition and the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church over the centuries.

They reject the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation( John 3:5, Mark 16:16.The Great Commission has exceptions for them.

The professors at the Biblicum do not have the Catholic faith.

I personally asked Prof. Joseph Sievers if Jews needed to convert into the Catholic Church. He would not answer.I mentioned that at the Pontifical Gregorian University, where he would teach formerly, Messianic Jews cannot get admission. He could not comment.

Fr.Diego Sarrio Cucarella teaches Arabic  at the Biblicum.He is President of the Pontificial Insitute for Arabic and Islamic Studies(PISAI), Rome.

The Profession of Faith made by Fr. Diego Sarrio Cucarella is false.Since he abjures traditional and magisterial teachings and documents, with the use of a false premise, inference and conclusion.There is no denial from him. He is following the political interpretation of Vatican Council II, like the present two popes.

PISAI organises visits to mosques without telling non Christians that they need to convert into the Catholic Church, with faith and baptism( Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II) to avoid the fires of Hell ( for salvation). Neither do they tell visiting scholars that professors at PISAI interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise, to create a calculated rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors and the past exclusivist ecclesiology, in general.This is unethical. This is the academic policy among the Jesuits at the Biblicum and the Gregorian University, Rome.-Lionel Andrades

FEBRUARY 26, 2020

No denial from PISAI : they use the irrational premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II, the Catechisms and Creeds the dogma extra eccleeiam nulla salus and other magisterial teachings 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/no-denial-from-pisai-they-use.html

 FEBRUARY 25, 2020

 

All the bishops present at Bari use the irrational premise, false inference and false conclusion to create an artificial rupture with the traditional Professio Fidei.So they now affirm a false and new Profession of Faith.It supports the irrational premise, inference and conclusion. It makes Magisterial documents non magisterial.So they support heresy and schism to be in full communion with the Church. The new concept of Church is supported by the New Theology, the Rahner-Ratzinger Theology based upon the irrational interpretation of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance. 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/all-bishops-present-at-bari-use_25.html

 

 

FEBRUARY 24, 2020

Archbishops Giacomo Morandi and Archbishop Augustine Di Noia , Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and Mons Marco Gnarvi, Diocesan Secretary for the Office of Inter religious Dialogue and Ecumenism, Rome Vicariate are in schism with the popes over the centuries . They use an irrational premise, inference and conclusion to create this schism.With this irrationality they have also changed the understanding of the Creeds and Catechism and this is heresy. 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/archbishops-giacomo-morandi-and.html

FEBRUARY 27, 2020

Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Ludwig Ott (1953) (Baronius) and The Catholic Church and Salvation(1958) by Mons. Joseph Clifford Fenton : authors were not aware of the irrational premise, inference and conclusion 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/fundamentals-of-catholic-dogma-by.html

WEDNESDAY, JULY 15, 2020

Adnane Mokrani was taught an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II at PISAI and the Angelicum

 

Adnane Mokrani, the first Islamic theologian to teach in a pontifical university - the Gregorian, chair of Islamic Studies obtained his doctorate at the Pontificial Institute of Arabic and Islamic studies (PISAI).But there was an error in his education. Vatican Council II was interpreted with a false premise. This was done to create an artificial  rupture with the traditional teaching on exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church.

 Mokrani also studied at the Angelicum, with a scholarship.There again he was taught an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.

At PISAI they continue to present a false nterpretation of Islamism by using an irrational premise and inference to interpret the Council.Then they present this new version on the Islamic religion, as being Catholic teaching. So for Mokrani these new doctrines are Catholic teachings. 

Mokrani interprets Catholic traditional teachings with the false version of Vatican Council II, the Catechisms and Creeds and so rejects  exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.He has written a book recently on the Death and Resurection of Jesus from an Islamic perspective.He was interviewed recently by the  daily Avvenire.1

It may be mentioned that The Profession of Faith made at PISAI by  Rev. Fr. Diego Sarrio Cucarella (President),Rev. Fr. Jason Welle OFM(Director of Studies ) and Rev. Fr. Francesco Baronchelli (Secretary)  is false.Since they abjure traditional and magisterial teachings and documents, with the use of a false premise, inference and conclusion.It is similar to the archbishops and cardinal at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith who follow the error. 2

PISAI does not affirm the Catholic Faith.They are afraid. Simple statements cannot be made.

They do not teach the Catholic Faith and have compromised with the Left for survival.
 At the Catholic university in Belgium it is reported there are  courses for Imams based on the false interpretation of Vatican Council II.

At the Catholic and secular, universities in Italy, Muslim professors have to interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational premise, inference and conclusion.

Schisms and heresy are mortal sins of faith for Catholics.Yet the teaching staff at PISAI interpret Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents, as a rupture with the popes and Church Councils over the centuries.They choose this rupture. 

If they did not use the irrational premise, inference and conclusion they would have to say that Adnane Mokrani Professor at the Gregorian University on Islamic Studies and  Youssef Sbai at the University of Padua, are outside the Catholic Church.

Similarly for Dr.Mobeen Shahid, a Catholic Director of an Islamic academic center for Dialogue in Rome,who now teaches Philosophy at the Urbaniana Pontifical University Rome does not speak and write about the truth of the faith.He interprets magisterial documents with the false premise, inference and conclusion to create the expected  rupture with the traditional Catholic concept of other religions.At the Urbaniana University they interpret Vatican Council II with the politically correct error.

According to Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) all need faith and baptism for salvation. This would include Mokrani and other Muslims.There are no exceptions to AG 7 mentioned in Vatican Council II. Since LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical and theoretical cases only.We cannot meet or see any one saved outside the Church.

So Vatican Council II affirms the Athanasius Creed which states all need Catholic faith for salvation.

The Council is also in harmony with the Catechism of the Catholic Church( 24 Q, 27 Q) on the need for non Catholics to convert into the Church to avoid Hell. 

The Council is also in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX on ecumenism. Since Unitatis Redintigratio 3 ( Decree on Ecumenism), Vatican Council II refers to a hypothetical case. In real life we cannot know of a Christian saved in his religion outside the Catholic Church. So there is no rupture in Vatican Council II with the old ecumenism of return.

According to Vatican Council II most people are oriented to Hell since they die without faith and baptism, necessary for salvation(AG 7).

This was not taught to Adnane Mokrani at PISAI or the Angelicum.-Lionel Andrades

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https://www.avvenire.it/chiesa/pagine/religioni-insieme-contro-il-covid

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FEBRUARY 27, 2020

The Profession of Faith made by Rev. Fr. Diego Sarrio Cucarella (President),Rev. Fr. Jason Welle OFM(Director of Studies ) and Rev. Fr. Francesco Baronchelli (Secretary) of PISAI is false.Since they abjure traditional and magisterial teachings and documents, with the use of a false premise, inference and conclusion.It is similar to the archbishops and cardinal at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith who follow the error.

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 FEBRUARY 27, 2020

The Profession of Faith made by Rev. Fr. Diego Sarrio Cucarella (President),Rev. Fr. Jason Welle OFM(Director of Studies ) and Rev. Fr. Francesco Baronchelli (Secretary) of PISAI is false.Since they abjure traditional and magisterial teachings and documents, with the use of a false premise, inference and conclusion.It is similar to the archbishops and cardinal at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith who follow the error.

The Profession of Faith made by  Rev. Fr. Diego Sarrio Cucarella (President),Rev. Fr. Jason Welle OFM(Director of Studies ) and Rev. Fr. Francesco Baronchelli (Secretary) of PISAI  is false.Since they abjure traditional and magisterial teachings and documents, with the use of a false premise, inference and conclusion.It is similar to the archbishops and cardinal at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith who follow the error. 1

Like the cardinals and popes, the Pontifical Institute for Arabis and Islamic Studies(PISAI), the  Teaching Staff do not affirm the Catholic Faith.They are afraid. Simple statements cannot be made.

They do not teach the Catholic Faith and have compromised with the Left for survival.
 

At the Catholic university in Belgium it is reported there are  courses for Imams based on the false interpretation of Vatican Council II.

At the Catholic and secular, universities in Italy, Muslim professors have to interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational premise, inference and conclusion.

Schisms and heresy are mortal sins of faith for Catholics.Yet the teaching staff at PISAI interpret Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents, as a rupture with the popes and Church Councils over the centuries.They choose this rupture. 
 

If they did not use the irrational premise, inference and conclusion they would have to say that Adnane Mokrani Professor at the Gregorian University on Islamic Studies and  Youssef Sbai at the University of Padua, are outside the Catholic Church.
 

There is no salvation and all need to be members of the Catholic Church with Catholic faith (Athanasius Creed) for salvation( to avoid Hell). All non Catholics are oriented to Hell without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).

Similarly for Dr.Mobeen Shahid, a Catholic Director of an Islamic academic center for Dialogue in Rome teaches Philosophy at the Urbaniana Pontifical University Rome.He does not speak and write about the truth of the faith.He interprets magisterial documents with the false premise, inference and conclusion to create a rupture with the traditional Catholic concept of other religions.-Lionel Andrades

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FEBRUARY 25, 2020

The Professio Fidei of the CDF supports the irrational premise, inference and conclusion

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-professio-fidei-of-cdf-supports.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/repost-cardinal-ratzingers-professio.html

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https://www.biblico.it/courses_of_anno_corr.html

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BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion

So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Pius XII and the Holy Office(CDF) made an objective mistake.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021

They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion

They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.

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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion

Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Pope Paul VI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, made an objective error.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise

 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion

Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-L.A

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Lionel Andrades,

Catholic lay man in Rome, 

Writer on the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.One is rational and the other irrational, one has the false premise and the other is without it,

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

blog: Eucharist and Mission

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