The Augustine Institute, Denver, Co.USA has been promoting a book by Michael Patrick Barber which interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise.-Lionel Andrades
https://catholic.market/books/what-every-catholic-should-know/
Wednesday, March 3, 2021
The Augustine Institute, Denver, Co.USA promotes a book by Michael Patrick Barber which interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise
https://catholic.market/books/what-every-catholic-should-know/
Douglas Bushman and EWTN apologists interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise : no denial from the Augustine Institute, Denver, Co, USA
MARCH 3, 2021
AUGUST 1, 2020
THURSDAY, JULY 30, 2020
WEDNESDAY, JULY 29, 2020
-Lionel Andrades
TUESDAY, JULY 28, 2020
Fr. Mitch Pacwa, SJ and Douglas Bushman interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and believe this interpretation is the work of the Holy Spirit and every one must follow it. This is a video not worth watching
Fr. Mitch Pacwa, SJ and Douglas Bushman interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and believe this interpretation is the work of the Holy Spirit and every one must follow it. This is a video not worth watching. It will be a waste of your time. -Lionel Andrades
They all contradict Feeneyite EENS!?
Jim Russsell interpreted Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus irrationally, using the false premise. He then projected practical exceptions for Feeneyite EENS.He criticized Fr. Leonard Feeney for not accepting the common irrationality.
This is common and so CMTV ignored the mistake.
The SSPX also interprets invincible ignorance with a false premise and then cites invincible ignorance as a practical exception to Feeneyite EENS. Since invincible ignorance is mentioned in the Catechism of Pope Pius X, they conclude that this Catechism contradicts Feeneyite EENS.
Since St. Thomas Aquinas mentions the man in the forest in invincible ignorance who will be saved, they conclude that St. Thomas Aquinas contradicts Feeneyite EENS.
Similarly the liberals cite invincible ignorance (LG 16) and the baptism of desire(LG 14) mentioned in Vatican Council II and interpret these hypothetical cases as being objective cases in the present times; non Catholics saved outside the Church without faith and baptism. Then they conclude that Vatican Council II (LG 14, LG 16 etc) contradicts Feeneyite EENS.
Similarly Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger and Fr. Luiz Ladaria sj, in two papers of the International Theological Commission, accepted the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston(LOHO) during the pontificate of Pope Pius X. The LOHO interpreted the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance as being exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.This was s accepted by the ITC and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican. - Lionel Andrades
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/fr.-feeneys-strange-doctrine
When Church Militant TV posted Jim Russell's report negating Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), Michael Voris and Christine Niles were not only negating Feeneyite EENS but also Vatican Council II interpreted rationally
When Church Militant TV posted Jim Russell's report negating Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), Michael Voris and Christine Niles were not only negating Feeneyite EENS but also Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. - Lionel Andrades
The traditionalists and the pontifical universities are interpreting Vatican Council II with the same false premise. There is no difference between the SSPX seminary in Econe and the Jesuit Gregorian University in Rome
The traditionalists and the pontifical universities are interpreting Vatican Council II with the same false premise. There is no difference between the SSPX seminary in Econe and the Jesuit Gregorian University in Rome. - Lionel Andrades
A few years back Massimo Faggioli was criticizing the traditionalists who believed in the Syllabus of Errors etc. He thought it was now obsolete with Vatican Council II. He did not know that he was interpreting Vatican Council II with a fake premise. Now he knows. Vatican Council II interpreted without a false premise makes his liberalism obsolete and he has no public comment
A few years back Massimo Faggioli was criticizing the traditionalists who believed in the Syllabus of Errors etc. He thought it was now obsolete with Vatican Council II. He did not know that he was interpreting Vatican Council II with a fake premise. Now he knows. Vatican Council II interpreted without a false premise makes his liberalism obsolete and he has no public comment. -Lionel Andrades
Peter Kwasniewski is giving two talks in the USA this month for Rorate Caeili readers, who interpret Vatican Council II deceptively and do not talk about it since they want to be approved by the Left
Peter Kwasniewski is giving two talks in the USA this month for Rorate Caeili readers, who interpret Vatican Council II deceptively and do not talk about it since they want to be approved by the Left. - Lionel Andrades
At Vatican Council II, they created division, among Catholics, by using the false premise to interpret the Council. So liberalism and traditionalism emerged.Now with the same false premise, the present two popes, support liberalism and reject traditionalism. They never speak about the fake premise. Since it would expose their liberalism as fake
At Vatican Council II, they created division, among Catholics, by using the false premise to interpret the Council. So liberalism and traditionalism emerged.Now with the same false premise, the present two popes, support liberalism and reject traditionalism. They never speak about the fake premise. Since it would expose their liberalism as fake.
Without the false premise there is no New Theology. -Lionel Andrades
Rorate Caeili and Don Pietro Leone do not want to accept Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise
The real issue is Vatican Council II interpreted with or without the false premise. Rorate Caeili and Don Pietro Leone do not want to accept Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise.They do not want the alternative.
They prefer the false premise.
Since it would mean having to affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, in public. -Lionel Andrades
Conservative meltdown
The web blog Rorate Caeili is not writing the truth about Vatican Council II and yet is quoting Cardinal Robert Sarah asking priests to speak the truth.
Is there a concept of mortal sin for Rorate ? No. He does not mention it directly.
Is there a concept of Vatican Council II interpreted without a false premise ? No. He does not mention it directly.
It is the same with Michael Matt.He will criticize Pope Francis but he will not affirm the Faith directly.
It is the same with Louie Verrecchio.
It is the same with Michael Virus. He will not talk about Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise.Since then he would have to affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).He denied it with the report by Jim Russell,'Fr.Feeney's Strange Doctrine'. -Lionel Andrades
MARCH 2, 2021
Lefebvrists have no problem with the Council officially, they are on the same side as the liberals
The problem is no more Vatican Council II and it never was Vatican Council II. The problem is that every one is looking after his or her own interest including those at the web blog Rorate Caeili.
The liberals and Lefebvrists interpreted Vatican Council II falsely for 55 years and now after they have been informed they want to continue to use the false premise , so that they do not have to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed, the Catechism of Pope Pius X and the rest of Tradition which will make them politically incorrect.
Roberto dei Mattei has posted a piece on Vatican Council II on Rorate Caeili commenting on Pope Francis' statement, saying that all need to accept the Council to be in the Church. He did not state in that article that he will interpret Vatican Council II, with a false premise, just like Pope Francis. The Lefebvrists have no problem with the Council officially. They are on the same side as the liberals.
-Lionel Andrades
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