We do not need the Latin Mass to have a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition

 Fr.Davide Pagliarani, the Superior General, of the Society of St. Pius X has said that that the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition has ended. This is not true.Part of the problem with Traditionis Custode is the association of the Latin Mass with the SSPX  and assuming that the SSPX are traditionalists, when they really interpret Vatican Council II like the liberals, using the same fake premise to create a rupture with Tradition ( Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX which they accept with exceptions etc).

We can attend a solemn Novus Ordo Mass, which is still the Sacrifice of Jesus while interpreting Vatican Council II with the rational premise to create a continuity with the Syllabus of Errors( without exceptions), which the SSPX rejects.We can create a continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance not being practical exceptions and which the SSPX rejects.

Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with the fake premise like the SSPX and I do not do the same.

Without the false premise, the SSPX would have to affirm Feeneyite EENS and they do not want to do it for political reasons. So Fr.Davide Pagliarani did not refer to ‘outside the Church there is no salvation’ when he mentioned the tenets of the faith which are associated with the Latin Mass.-Lionel Andrades

There is doctrinal dis-unity in the parish at Mass in Italian where Pope Francis banned the Latin Mass in 2013

 

There is doctrinal disunity in the parish in which I live in Rome.The First Commandment says ‘I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt have no other God but me’.We Catholics follow the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Yahweh-fulfilled in Jesus Christ, the promise and prophecy of the Jewish prophets of the Old Testament.We believe in the Bible as the only inspired –text, with the fullness of the truth, expressed in the Trinity. We believe there is salvation in only Jesus and His Mystical Body, the Catholic Church, outside of which there is no salvation(John 3:5,Mark 16:16,John 3:15-19 etc). We follow the new revelation expressed in the Bible and the eternal covenant Jesus made with his Death and Resurrection.The Sacrifice of Jesus is renewed at every Mass I attend in Italian at the parish in Casalotti, Boccea.

This is God whom I serve and worship in the Catholic Church.Jesus is God. We also refer to Jesus as the Son of God, God who chose to come and live among us creatures and expiate for our sins.So that after death we may be happy with Him forever in Heaven.Those who believe in Jesus and live his teachings in the Catholic Church will be saved from the fires of Hell.

This is not the God of the Jews, Muslims, Protestants, Evangelicals, Buddhists and Hindus-even though God in his essense and as Creator, is one. Our concepts and beliefs are different as we are limited by the ego, the mind and the restrictions of being human.

So after the Death and Resurrection of Christ there is true worship in only the Catholic Church.This is the traditional theology of the Catholic Church.

Yet the priests and parishioners in my parish, Santa Maria di Nazareth, believe that outside the Church there is salvation, even among foreign religions, with foreign gods,like the Amazonians.
This is really an impediment to offering Holy Mass in Italian and for the laity, receiving the Eucharst.It is another one of the many signs of disunity in the diocese.

Vatican Council II tells us that Catholics are the new people of God (NA 4) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church says God the Father wants all people to be united in the Catholic Church(CCC 845), the Church is compared to the Ark of Noah that saves in the flood (CCC 845).
So we do not have doctrinal unity among those of us who attend Mass in Italian.There is no Latin Mass in the old church of the parish, after Pope Farncis closed down the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate seminary in 2013.

The Latin Mass being offered by the Fransciscans of the Immaculate in the old church of the parish Santa Maria di Nazareth, Boccea, Rome before 2013.-Photo by Lionel Andrades

Now Cardinal Braz de Avez, Prefect of the congregation for the religious, Fr.Sabino Ardito, Commissar, for the Francscans of the Immaculate, interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise, creating a break with the First Commandment, the Creeds and the old Catechisms.They are all following Pope Francis, like the priests and parishioners in the parish.

The old church in the parish is still empty and unused. A long time back Mass was offered there  in Latin and Italian, by the Franciscans of the Immaculate under Fr. Stefano Mannelli F.I.This was before Pope Francis split the community.The Latin Mass was banned at that time and Mass in Italian was offered in a new church in the parish.

The seminary windows are still shuttered.I notice it every day.

Fr.Settimo Mannelli F.I, Rector of the seminary and Parish Priest at the parish Santa Maria di Nazareth, with a parishioner- Photo by Lionel Andrades

Between the Comitato dell Immaculata of Fr. Stefano Manelli and the bishop of the diocese, the old church remains silent.No Mass is offered there any more.

In the new church, alongside the old seminary building, the Joselitos Christo community priests do not have the freedom to interpret Vatican Council II with the rational premise( the blue column).This is really a rejection of Vatican Council II by them and Pope Francis.It is the same for the lay people .

Pope Francis has not created unity among the two communities of the Franciscans of the Immaculate who are no more in the parish.He wants both communities, and the parish of Santa Maria di Nazareth, to offer/attend Holy Mass with the false interpretation of Vatican Council II, to create a New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology,New Evangelisation etc which is dis-unity and schism with the past Magisterium of the Church, over the centuries.

Pope Francis seems like the pope of disunity, he creates disunity within the heart of the Church, as he tries to create unity with Christians of different denominations, based on a false interpretation of Vatican Council II, with the common fake premise,.
We cannot please God and the Left(mammon).

-Lionel Andrades

 JULY 19, 2021

The official interpretation of Vatican Council II is schismatic . We’ve found the bug.It’s a deceptive, subtle false premise which escaped everyone’s notice.It was always there before us like a germ that spreads and brings on an epidemic.The discovery is our vaccination.Those who know - are immune even when schismatic popes suffer from the contagion.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-official-interpretation-of-vatican_19.html

JULY 18, 2021

The official interpretation of Vatican Council II is schismatic

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-official-interpretation-of-vatican.html

 JULY 21, 2021

Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar,Murray and Cushing in 1965 not only changed the Church's teaching on their being exclusive salvation in the Church by using a false premise, but they also mentioned 'particular churches', in other words the Orthodox Christians and Protestants are canonically within the Catholic Church.Now in the Letter which accompanying Traditionis Custode it is mentioned as if this is the 'true Church' and not a paralled Church with Tradition

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/07/rahner-ratzinger-congarmurray-and.html

Non temere, Maria c’è e ti guiderà- COME TUTTO E' INIZIATO A MEDJUGORJE:...

Peter Kwasniewski should have appealed to Pope Francis to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so support Tradition and permit the Latin Mass for those who do the same

 

PETER KWASNIEWSKI SHOULD HAVE APPEALED TO POPE FRANCIS TO INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II RATIONALLY AND SO SUPPORT TRADITION AND PERMIT THE LATIN MASS FOR THOSE WHO DO THE SAME.

Peter Kwasniewski says Traditionis Custode is not juridical based upon his theological opionion which differs from others.He has not brought out the objective fault of the pope( and himself) when they both use a fake premise to interpret Vatican Council II.This is unethical, dishonest and non Magisterial. Peter Kwasniewski should have appealed to Pope Francis to interpet Vatican Council II rationally and so support Tradition,and permit the Latin Mass for those who do the same.
There are no objective exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council Ii to the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) which the pope and Kwansiewski do not affirm.For me the Council is not a rupture with EENS since I interpret Vatican Council II with the rational premise, inference and tradtional conclusion.Kwasniewski does not mention this point since he needs to remain as political on Vatican Council II as, Pope Francis and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF).Interpreting Vatican Council II with a fake premise is juridical and acceptable for Kwasniewlsi, the blog Rorate Caeili and Life Site News.
Kwasniewski’s interpretation of Vatican Council II as expressed in Traditionis Custode is as dishonest as the common one of the cardinals, bishops and priests.He ignores this point which is a major error in TC.He needs to be politically safe and continue to write books, give talks and earn a living.So he overlooks this particular, major error in TC,that of the false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and other Church documents( Creeds and Catehisms).
The error of Traditionis Custode is specific and concrete.
When Pope Francis and Pope Benedict , the CDF and the traditionalists, interpret invisible and hypothetical cases of being saved, as referenced in LG 8,LG 14,LG 16,UR 3,NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being visible examples of salvation outside the Church and alleged objective exceptions to Tradition in general and exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church in particular,then this is a specific example of being dishonest. It is unethical academically and it is an error in public.It can also be noticed by the secular organisations and non Christians.For discerning Catholics it is a scandal and it is oficial.Kwasnewski considers it Magisterial.
Pope Francis is divisive when he wants to unite the whole Church with a dishonest and divisive interpretation of Vatican Council II.

The Mass, in all Rites, is only permitted for those who interpret Vatican Council II with the fake premise, to create a fake rupture with Tradition.The artificial break with Tradition is the signal for the bishop to approve the liturgy.
The FSSP and diocesan priests in Dijon, France, following Traditionis Custode, will not be able to offer Mass in Latin or French,unless they interpet the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX,with the deceptive premise ( the red column) and so promote ‘ a theology of religions’, based on Vatican Council II ( irrational).
With ‘the theology of religions’, the FSSP priests and Latin laity will have to reject the First Commandment.They will have to say that people in other religions, who have different gods, will also be saved.
Peter Kwasniewski should have appealed to Pope Francis to interpet Vatican Council II rationally and so support Tradition,and permit the Latin Mass for those who do the same.

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