Wednesday, January 31, 2024

Pope Francis is forced to interpret Vatican Council II rationally, for it to be Magisterial


Leonard  Boff’s progressivist ecclesiology is finished. The liberal interpretation of Vatican Council II has ended. Pope Francis is forced to interpret Vatican Council II rationally, for it to be Magisterial. He then affirms extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) like the Jesuit Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and the St. Benedict Center of that time. The Council is Feeneyite and no more Cushingite.

The Jesuits expelled Fr. Leonard Feeney sj from the community since he would not say he could see visible cases of the baptism of desire (BOD). There were no known BOD cases for him.

The 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston made a mistake when it projected  invisible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance as visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church and objective exceptions for the dogma EENS. Invisible people were projected as visible exceptions for Feeneyite EENS. This was a mistake of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (Holy Office), Vatican.

 Pope Pius XII, Pope John XXIII and Pope Paul VI over looked this objective mistake - and so did the popes who followed. Pope Paul VI lifted the excommunication of Fr. Leonard Feeney without him having to recant. He was asked to simply recite the Creed. He chose the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation.

When Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II rationally he emerges ' a traditionalist', he is saying the Catholic Church has ' a superiority' in salvation.The Church returns to Traditional Mission and proclaims exclusive salvation to the peripheries.

How can he get out of this unexpected situation? I don't know.The Ecclesia Dei communities would choose to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and not irrationally.

Cardinals and bishops would choose to be honest and not dishonest.

The traditionalists in France and Portugal would choose to be traditionalist instead of non traditionalist and heretical.

Pope Francis is obligated to interpret Vatican Council II rationally, since he cannot say that LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 refer to physically visible examples of salvation outside the Church in 1965-2024, and objective exceptions for the Catechism of the Catholic Church (845,846), the dogma EENS, the Athansius Creed, the Catechism of Pope Pius X C( 24Q,27Q), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return), Nicene Creed ( I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin - and not three known baptisms which exclude the baptism of water- desire, blood, invincible ignorance, goodwill (GS 22), imperfect communion with the Church ( UR 3) etc). There no more are exceptions for Tradition.The Council is not a break with Tradition. It has a continuity with the Jesuit missionaries of the 16th century, St. Ignatius of Loyola , St.Francis Xavier and St. Robert Bellarmine.

-Lionel Andrades




JANUARY 26, 2024

There is no denial from Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez, the journalists in Rome and now the Faculty of Theology at the University of St. Thomas Aquinas, Rome. They agree with me. For them too LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3,NA 2,GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical cases , physically invisible people in 2024.This is a given. It is common sense

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/01/repost-there-is-no-denial-from-cardinal.html


JANUARY 19, 2024

The mainline Church is coming back to Tradition as liberal priest-professors interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16 UR 3, NA 2, GS 22, etc, as being only hypothetical. They are not objective exceptions in 1965-204, for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS)

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-mainline-church-is-coming-back-to.html



JANUARY 18, 2024

The traditionalist-liberal division in the Church has ended

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-traditional-liberal-division-in.html


JANUARY 16, 2024

I have been saying outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 845,846 etc) and LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 refer to hypothetical cases in Vatican Council II and my allies are Michael Sean Winters ( National Catholic Reporter), Massimo Faggioli ( Commonweal), John Allen jr ( Cruz), Nicole Winfield ( Associated Press), Edward Pentin ( National Catholic Register) and many others. They agree with me

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/01/i-have-been-saying-outside-church-there.html

DECEMBER 11, 2023

Whom to believe ?https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/12/whom-to-believe.html

DECEMBER 7, 2023

I have e-mailed Alberto Melloni and his colleagues at the FSCIRE about their irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II and there is no denial from them. They actually agree with me : Is it legal when Melloni receives, reportedly, over a million euros annually, and intentionally interprets LG 8,1,4,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 irrationally and dishonestly ?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/12/i-have-e-mailed-alberto-melloni-and-his.html


DECEMBER 8, 2023

What is the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II ? (Updated 08.12.2023 ) /21. The Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican and the Bishop of Manchester, New Hampshire have made a public error in the case of the St.Benedict Center ?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/12/what-is-lionel-andrades-interpretation_8.html




The Parish Priest at San Agapito, Rome can no more say that he does not affirm ‘the strict interpretation ‘ of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He cannot say that he does not accept Unam Sanctum of Pope Boniface VIII (founder of La Sapienza University, Rome). Since he is obliged to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and then the Council is Feeneyite. The orthodox passages in Vatican Council II support the past ecclesiocentrism. While the hypothetical passages are not exceptions. It is the same for Feeneyite Pope Francis.


The Parish Priest at San Agapito, Rome can no more say that he does not affirm ‘the strict interpretation ‘ of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He cannot say that he does not accept Unam Sanctum of Pope Boniface VIII (founder of La Sapienza University, Rome). Since he is obliged to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and then the Council is Feeneyite. The orthodox passages in Vatican Council II support the past ecclesiocentrism. While the hypothetical passages are not exceptions. It is the same for Feeneyite Pope Francis.

Feeneyite Pope Francis?!!

Pope Francis may criticize 'triumphalism', 'rigidity', 'fundamentalism' and ' an ideological groups views'- but when he has to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and ethically, the Council supports Catholic orthodoxy.He is obliged by the Council to come back to Tradition.He cannot continue to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally, while the rest of the Church knows there is a rational option, whose conclusion is traditional.The future doctrines of the cardinals and bishops  are those of the 16th century Magisterium, the Church Fathers and the Apostles.

We all know that there are no objective cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc. Everyone in the parish agrees on this point.So there are no visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church in 2024 to contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology. We have returned to Tradition. 'Rome has come back to the Faith'.

I sometimes go for the evening Mass in Italian at San Agapito where my ecclesiology is that of the old Latin and Greek Orthodox Catholic Mass. I am inspired by Vatican Council II. The Council has invisible cases and not objective exceptions for EENS in 2024.

For example, if there is a box of oranges with an apple in the center, then the apple is an exception because it is different but also because it is there in that box. If it was not there it would not be an exception.

When Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally Pope Francis is Feeneyite, whether he knows it or not. - Lionel Andrades




JANUARY 30, 2024

Morally we only have the rational option. So this would be the only interpretation of the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the religious communities. Annual, renewal of vows will have its foundation only on Vatican Council II interpreted ethically.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/01/morally-we-only-have-rational-option-so.html


JANUARY 30, 2024

The priest can no more put down the belief in Hell and run down the Middle Ages, with his liberal interpretation of Vatican Council II.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-priest-can-no-more-put-down-belief.html


 JANUARY 30, 2024

The Parish Priest has to tell his assistant priests, altar servers, sacristans, choirs, scouts and general congregation to rationally, interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, in Vatican Council II and then his parish will return to Tradition.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-parish-priest-has-to-tell-his.html