Thursday, October 18, 2018

Repost : Traditionalists cannot contradict Massimo Faggioli since they interpret Vatican Council II with the same false premise as he does (Graphics)

 MAY 31, 2018

Traditionalists cannot contradict Massimo Faggioli since they interpret Vatican Council II with the same false premise as he does (Graphics)

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-Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/05/traditionalists-cannot-contradict.html

The liberal bishops approve the Traditional Latin Mass which is offered with the same New Theology, the New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology and New Evangelisation of the Mass in the vernacular, which is a rupture with Tradition.

The liberal bishops approve the Traditional Latin Mass which is offered with the same New Theology, the New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology and New Evangelisation of the Mass in the vernacular, which is a rupture with Tradition.1
-Lionel Andrades


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https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/archbishop-lefebvre-did-not-see-error.html




JULY 25, 2016



Traditionalists need to make the transition to invisible for us baptism of desire and invincible ignorance.They will not be denying BOD and I.I but will be rationally choosing a hypothetical for us BOD and I.I.Then they can watch how Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church changes

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/07/traditionalists-need-to-make-transition.html



 FEBRUARY 11, 2018

They have rejected EENS, changed the Nicene Creed and Vatican Council II and created a new understanding of the Catholic Faith and they call themselves traditionalists!
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/02/they-have-rejected-eens-changed-nicene.html


DECEMBER 16, 2017

Traditionalists are not affirming the Catholic Faith to protect their worldly interests and are asking for donations

APRIL 21, 2018

Fr.Chad Ripperger and FSSP priests still not permitted by the Vatican to affirm the traditional teaching on salvation : positivism towards magisterialism http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/04/frchad-ripperger-and-fssp-priests-still.html



APRIL 23, 2018

New Catholic ecumenical groups must be formed which do not interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition, affirm the old traditional ecumenism in harmony with the Council and the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/04/new-catholic-ecumenical-groups-must-be.html

SEPTEMBER 11, 2017

When are the traditionalists going to change? When are they going to get rid of their smugness on doctrine and theology ?  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/09/when-are-traditionalists-going-to.html


 DECEMBER 15, 2017

The traditionalists in general have made an error.They have made a major error in theology and doctrine   https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-traditionalists-in-general-have.html





Questions for the traditionalists


http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/08/questions-for-traditioinalists.html

SEPTEMBER 12, 2014

Catholic Identity Conference 2014 flyer


The Call to Holiness and Catholic Identity Conference speakers will use a false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, Redemptoris Missio, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Dominus Iesus...http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/the-call-to-holiness-and-catholic.html



We have two interpretations of the Nicene Creed-mine and that of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the SSPX, F.I, FSSP etc.

We have two interpretations of the Nicene Creed. There is my interpretation and that of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the SSPX, F.I, FSSP etc.
The Nicene Creed. says ' I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins'.For me it refers to one  known baptism, the baptism of water.
For the others it is  ' I believe in three or more known baptisms and they are the baptism of desire, baptism of blood etc, all without the baptism of water'. This is why the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are EXCEPTIONS to the dogma extra  ecclesiam nulla salus. There are exceptions since for them there are known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church.If there were no personally known cases how could there be exceptions?
In the Nicene Creed we refer to the Holy Spirit.For me the Holy Spirit guides the Catholic Church to teach outside the Church there is no salvation. For others, the Holy Spirit guides the Church to teach that outside the Church there is known salvation.
In the Nicene Creed we refer to the one Holy , Catholic and Apostolic Church which for me says outside the Church there is no salvation. For  the traditionalists, the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church teaches that  outside the Church there is no salvation except for the cases of the baptism of desire etc.So outside the Church there is salvation. There are known people saved outside the Church. In other words the baptism of desire etc refer to known people saved outside the Church. If they were invisible cases they could not be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So they were visible cases for Pope Paul VI and Archbishop Lefebvre. So until today for the SSPX, F.I, FSSP and sedevacantists there are visible exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 
I interpret the Nicene Creed traditionally.Practically we cannot see a BOD, BOB and I.I. case. Literally there is no baptism of desire for us human beings.   1


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https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/cushingites-pope-paul-vi-and-archbishop.html








DECEMBER 15, 2017


Pledge of Fidelity Signatories and I interpret the Nicene Creed differently
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/12/pledge-of-fidelity-signatories-and-i.html


JULY 3, 2017

The bottom line is that we are all reciting the Nicene Creed but there are two different interpretations
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-bottom-line-is-that-we-are-all.html



SEPTEMBER 10, 2016

The Vatican Curia interprets the Nicene Creed with irrational Cushingism : 'I believe in three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins.'
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-vatican-curia-interprets-nicene.html



 MARCH 29, 2016



The Nicene Creed was changed with the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 mistake : it was approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-nicene-creed-was-changed-with.html

The new Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX ) has said that he rejects Vatican Council II : hel does not clarify if they mean Vatican Council II with or without the premise.

The new Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX ) has said that he rejects Vatican Council II it was reported on Fr.John Zuhlsdorf's blog.
The SSPX still does not clarify if they mean Vatican Council II with or without the premise.
Is it Vatican Council II Cushingite or Vatican Council II Feeneyite.
Is it Vatican Council II how I interpret it ?
The SSPX is still interpreting Vatican Council II like the Left and the CDF and then rejecting the conclusion.
He would create a crisis for the Left and the Vatican if he said that he affirms Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).He could then as the Vatican to do the same.
-Lionel Andrades