Monday, February 3, 2020
Il Southern Poverty Law Center, Associated Press, Reuters e il resto della sinistra accusano i tradizionalisti di non accettare "le riforme del Concilio Vaticano II". Intendono il Concilio Vaticano II interpretato con la premessa, l'inferenza e la conclusione falsa. Non si riferiscono al Concilio Vaticano II interpretato con una premessa razionale e inferenza che crea una conclusione tradizionale. Quindi queste sono false informazioni sul Concilio da parte loro. Sono necessarie una correzione e un chiarimento.
Il Southern Poverty Law Center, Associated Press, Reuters e il resto della sinistra accusano i tradizionalisti di non accettare "le riforme del Concilio Vaticano II". Intendono il Concilio Vaticano II interpretato con la premessa, l'inferenza e la conclusione falsa. Non si riferiscono al Concilio Vaticano II interpretato con una premessa razionale e inferenza che crea una conclusione tradizionale. Quindi queste sono false informazioni sul Concilio da parte loro. Sono necessarie una correzione e un chiarimento.
SI RIFORMA SOLO CON IRRATIONALITA
Quando il Concilio Vaticano II è visto con una premessa e un'inferenza razionali non ci sono "riforme del Concilio Vaticano II". Il Concilio sostiene il programma degli Sillabo di Errori di Papa Pio IX e il Credo di Atanasio (al di fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza). L'ecclesiologia post Concilio Vaticano II oggi è la stessa ecclesiologia pre-Concilio Vaticano II dei santi Ignazio, Saverio e Bellarmino.
Unitatis Redintigratio nel Concilio Vaticano II con il suo riferimento a casi ipotetici (UR 3 ecc.) non contraddice il tradizionale ecumenismo del ritorno.
In Lumen Gentium non c'è nulla che contraddica l'ecclesiologia del passato, dal momento che LG 8, LG 14 e LG 16 si riferiscono solo a casi ipotetici e teorici, nel 1965-2020.
Nostra Aetate non contraddice Ad Gentes 7 che afferma che tutti hanno bisogno di fede e di battesimo per la salvezza. AG 7 è citato nel Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica con il sottotitolo Fuori della Chiesa non c'e salvezza.Nostra Aetate 2 non fa eccezione a Ad Gentes 7.
PAPA BENEDETTO FA UN ERRORE
Quindi i media laici devono chiarire che i libri scritti dal cardinale Ratzinger / Papa Benedetto, il cardinale Christoph Schoborn, p. Aidan Nicols op e molti altri, pubblicati da Ignatius Press e altri, sono scritti con una premessa e un'inferenza false per creare una conclusione non tradizionale. Questa è una rottura artificiale con la Tradizione (EENS, Sillabo, ecc.). Questo è anche l'errore dei media mainstream.
Hanno interpretato i Credi, il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica e altri documenti magisteriali, con la comune falsa premessa e inferenza.
Sono stati pubblicati libri con questo errore, che confondono ciò che è invisibile come visibile. L'ignoto è proiettato come noto. In che modo casi sconosciuti di LG 8, LG 16 e UR 3 possono essere noti eccezioni all'ecclesiologia del passato?
Questi libri con informazioni errate vengono ristampati da Ignatius Press e altri editori, con nuove edizioni e nessun chiarimento.
CREDO ATANASIO OBSELETO
Ci sono errori nel libro Credo per oggi, poiché Papa Benedetto interpreta il Credo con la falsa premessa e inferenza, che io chiamo Cushingismo.1 Il Credo Atanasio (al di fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza) è reso obsoleto e potrebbe anche interpretare il magistrale documenti con la premessa e l'inferenza false. Io chiamo questo Feeneyismo.
È lo stesso con il Redemptoris Missio e il Dominus Iesus del Cardinale Ratzinger, sono solo cristologici, rifiutano l'ecclesiologia ecclesiocentrica della Chiesa Cattolica.Sono Cushingite.
Anche l'interpretazione di Papa Benedetto del periodo Patristico è Cushingite e interpreta casi invisibili di battesimo del desiderio (BOD), battesimo del sangue (BOB) come eccezioni note a extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 2 I Padri della Chiesa hanno interpretato BOD, BOB e I.I come casi ipotetici. Non potrebbero essere nient'altro. BOD, BOB e I.I non possono essere casi oggettivi per gli esseri umani. Quindi non erano eccezioni pratiche all'extra ecclesiam nulla salus (Feeneyite).Quindi c'era extra ecclesiam nulla salus (Feeneyite) per i missionari nel XVI secolo e oggi esiste un extra ecclesiam nulla salus (Cushingite) per Papa Benedetto.
TEOLOGIA DELLA FANTASIA
Per Papa Benedetto e il Cardinale Luiz Ladaria sj,il battesimo di desiderio, battisimo di sangue e invincible ignoranza sono eccezioni a extra ecclesiam nulla salus e così anche Lumen Gentium 14 (battesimo del desiderio) e Lumen Gentium 16 (ignoranza invincibile) nel Concilio Vaticano II. Sono corpi fisici nel tempo e nello spazio di Newton presumibilmente salvato al di fuori della Chiesa. In altre parole, visibile in cielo o sulla terra. Come possono essere visibili in cielo e sulla terra allo stesso tempo?
La sua interpretazione del Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica e la catechesi generale viola anche il Principio di non contraddizione. 3
La confusione è nei suoi libri sull'ecclesiologia.4
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA, 2, GS 22 ecc. sono visti da lui come eccezioni al tradizionale extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). Il Concilio Vaticano II interpretato irrazionalmente diventa una rottura artificiale con la Tradizione. 5 Non scelse il Concilio Vaticano II, Feeneyite. Voleva l'ermeneutica della rottura con la Tradizione.
Questi libri non dovrebbero essere resi disponibili per gli studenti delle università pontificie e secolari in Italia e in particolare a Roma, poiché sono scritti con una premessa e un'inferenza false.
Allo stesso modo i libri di Papa Benedetto / Cardinale Ratzinger sono tradotti in tedesco per studenti di teologia all'università cattolica tedesca di Eichstadt-Ingolstadt, nell'arcidiocesi del cardinale Reinhardt Marx.
Ora sono obsoleti e dovrebbero essere rimossi. Analogamente un articolo sull'ecclesiologia in tedesco del cardinale Ratzinger, non dovrebbe essere lì on line.
Papa Benedetto come SPLC, AP, Reuters e altre organizzazioni devono chiarire che il Concilio Vaticano II può essere interpretato con una premessa e un'inferenza razionali. La conclusione è tradizionale. Supporta lextra ecclesiam nulla salus del XVI secolo. Questa è l'interpretazione razionale anche dei Catechismi, Credi e del dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Non c'è rottura con i missionari e il Magistero del Medioevo.
I MEDIA DEVONO RAPPORTI CORRETTI
I papi e i media di sinistra non devono più interpretare i documenti del magistero Cattolico con la premessa e l'inferenza irrazionali per creare una conclusione non tradizionale, e quindi presentare questo come insegnamento attolico. I libri con questo errore devono essere eliminati gradualmente e nuovi libri scritti sul Concilio: sosterrebbero l'ecclesiologia esclusivista del passato, un ecumenismo di ritorno senza eccezioni note e Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus con BOD, BOB e I.I non conosciute eccezioni. il ragionamento nei nuovi libri, sarebbe unethica.-Lionel Andrades
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FEBRUARY 2, 2020
Cardinal Ratzinger is a Cushingite and has interpreted the Nicene Creed with a false premise and inference which was not the understanding of the past centuries.Ignatius Press has published Credo for Today addressed to Christians and not Catholics. The Nicene Creed can be interpreted with Feeneyism or Cushingism and the conclusion would be different.
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FEBRUARY 2, 2020
Literal and objective errors mark Pope Benedict's books published by Ignatius Press.He has interpreted the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II irrationally
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JANUARY 14, 2020
Ignatius Press needs to pull back Pope Benedict's book on ecclesiology since it was written with a false interpretation of Vatican Council II.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/ignatius-press-needs-to-pull-back-pope.html
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JANUARY 21, 2020
Ignatius Press needs to stop publishing books on Vatican Council II by authors who interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA, 2, GS 22 etc as being exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Books written by Pope Benedict also carry this error https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/ignatius-press-needs-to-stop-publishing.html
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Ignatius Press needs to stop publishing books on Vatican Council II by authors who interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA, 2, GS 22 etc as being exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Books written by Pope Benedict also carry this error https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/ignatius-press-needs-to-stop-publishing.html
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DECEMBER 20, 2012
Archbishop Gerhard Muller says that the SSPX needs to distinguish the true teaching of the Second Vatican Council: but he will not correct Reuters https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2012/12/archbishop-gerhard-muller-says-that.html
REUTERS MAKES AN OBJECTIVE MISTAKE ON CATHOLIC DOCTRINE AND ECCLESIA DEI/ CDF DO NOT CLARIFY
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/reuters-makes-objective-mistake-on.html#links
REUTERS MAKES FACTUAL,OBJECTIVE MISTAKE TOO
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/reuters-makes-factualobjective-mistake.html#links
WASHINGTON POST REPORT ON SSPX WRONG ON CATHOLIC DOCTRINE
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/washington-post-report-on-sspx-is-wrong.html#links
REUTERS MAKES AN OBJECTIVE MISTAKE ON CATHOLIC DOCTRINE AND ECCLESIA DEI/ CDF DO NOT CLARIFY
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/reuters-makes-objective-mistake-on.html#links
JULY 19, 2018
Nicole Winfield of the Associated Press and Phillip Pullela of Reuters continue the propaganda on Vatican Council II by assuming LG 16 refers to a visible and known person saved outside the Catholic Church
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/nicole-winfield-of-associated-press-and.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/nicole-winfield-of-associated-press-and.html
OCTOBER 14, 2015
No denial from Phillip Pullela and Nicole Winfield https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/10/no-denial-from-phillip-pullela-and.html
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JULY 18, 2018
Whatever is your opinion of Fr. Leonard Feeney, LOHO, Pope Pius XII etc if LG 16 is invisible or visible determines the interpretation of Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/whatever-is-your-opinion-of-fr-leonard.html http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/archbishop-guido-pozzo-does-not-affirm.html
Whatever is your opinion of Fr. Leonard Feeney, LOHO, Pope Pius XII etc if LG 16 is invisible or visible determines the interpretation of Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/whatever-is-your-opinion-of-fr-leonard.html http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/archbishop-guido-pozzo-does-not-affirm.html
JULY 18, 2018Whether you believe in the Bologna School or what ever how you look at LG 16 determines how you interpret Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/whether-you-believe-in-bologna-school.html
JANUARY 15, 2017 Media chooses Vatican Council II (Cushingite) instead of Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) : approved magisterial heresy https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/01/media-chooses-vatican-council-ii_15.html
OCTOBER 27, 2015Associated Press blacks out information on magisterial heresy : AP reports on Vatican Council II were based on a factual error http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/associated-press-blacks-out-information.html
JANUARY 13, 2017Thomas D.Williams calls for a reform in the Church with a new theology and new doctrines which are heretical and irrational but politically correct with the Left, of which he now is a part of http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/thomas-dwilliams-calls-for-reform-in.html
OCTOBER 28, 2015 The Vatican has made a mistake and there is a cover up by liberal journalists https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-vatican-has-made-mistake-and-there.html
JULY 18, 2018
If you cite Archbishop Lefebvre, Pope Pius XII and the Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO) you are interpreting LG 16 as referring to known people saved outside the Church.You are following this train of thinking.http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/if-you-cite-archbishop-lefebvre-pope.html
DECEMBER 11, 2015
Traditionalists like Reuters correspondents use Cushingism to interpret Vatican Council II : Feeneyism cannot be part of the dialogue http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/12/traditionalists-like-reuters.html
JANUARY 15, 2017 Media chooses Vatican Council II (Cushingite) instead of Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) : approved magisterial heresy https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/01/media-chooses-vatican-council-ii_15.html
OCTOBER 27, 2015Associated Press blacks out information on magisterial heresy : AP reports on Vatican Council II were based on a factual error http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/associated-press-blacks-out-information.html
JANUARY 13, 2017Thomas D.Williams calls for a reform in the Church with a new theology and new doctrines which are heretical and irrational but politically correct with the Left, of which he now is a part of http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/thomas-dwilliams-calls-for-reform-in.html
OCTOBER 28, 2015 The Vatican has made a mistake and there is a cover up by liberal journalists https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-vatican-has-made-mistake-and-there.html
JULY 18, 2018
If you cite Archbishop Lefebvre, Pope Pius XII and the Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO) you are interpreting LG 16 as referring to known people saved outside the Church.You are following this train of thinking.http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/if-you-cite-archbishop-lefebvre-pope.html
DECEMBER 11, 2015
Traditionalists like Reuters correspondents use Cushingism to interpret Vatican Council II : Feeneyism cannot be part of the dialogue http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/12/traditionalists-like-reuters.html
Religion correspondents keep prudently silent on Magisterial Error in Vatican Council II :Vatican's CDF made a mistake
Cardinal Kaspar changed ecclesiology assuming B is an exception to A : he used an irrational model to interpret Vatican Council II
Vatican Council II has an error : secular journalists, cardinals and bishops don't know what to do http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/vatican-council-ii-has-error-secular.html
Vatican Council II has an error : secular journalists, cardinals and bishops don't know what to do http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/vatican-council-ii-has-error-secular.html
Religion journalists : did the Magisterium made a mistake? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/religion-journalists-did-magisterium.html
Religion journalists : did the Magisterium made a mistake? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/religion-journalists-did-magisterium.html
FEBRUARY 1, 2020
German theologian Marianne Schlosser a professor of theology at the University of Vienna and recipient of the 2018 Ratzinger Prize, interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, inference and non traditional conclusion which says outside the Catholic Church there is salvation.She accepts the New Theology of Pope Benedict and Pope Francis and so she is given the award.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-theologian-marianne-schlosser.html
German theologian Marianne Schlosser a professor of theology at the University of Vienna and recipient of the 2018 Ratzinger Prize, interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, inference and non traditional conclusion which says outside the Catholic Church there is salvation.She accepts the New Theology of Pope Benedict and Pope Francis and so she is given the award.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-theologian-marianne-schlosser.html
JANUARY 24, 2020
Questions and Answers https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/questions-and-answers.html
JANUARY 21, 2020
Irrationality taught to Catholic children at home and in the schools.This is a family issue https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/irrationality-taught-to-catholic.html
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FEBRUARY 3, 2020
The Southern Poverty Law Center, Associated Press, Reuters and the rest of the Left accuse traditionalists of not accepting 'the reforms of Vatican Council II'. They mean Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise, inference and conclusion. They do not refer to Vatican Council II interpreted with a rational premise and inference creating a traditional conclusion. So this is false information on the Council from them.A correction and a clarification is needed. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-southern-poverty-law-center.html
TERMS CLARIFIED
BOD( Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)
BOB (Baptism of Blood. The case of unknown person who is in Heaven as a martyr without the baptism of water)
I.I (Invincible ignorance: The case of an unknown non Catholics who is in Heaven without faith and baptism and instead in invincible ignorance.)
LG 8 ( Lumen Gentium 8: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth' or where the true Church of Christ allegedly subsists.
LG 14 (Lumen Gentium 14: Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)
LG 16 ( Lumen Gentium 16: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance and who is now in Heaven without faith and the baptism of water)
UR 3 (Unitatitis Redintigratiio 3, Vatican Council II : The case of the unknown Christian, who is saved in his religions without Catholic faith or the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and is allegedly known to someone on earth who has seen him or her in Heaven).
NA 2( Nostra Aetate 2: The case of the unknown non Catholic saved outside the Catholic Church without faith and baptism. He or she is saved with good and holy things in other religion or with the a ray of that Truth which enlightens all mankind.
GS 22 (Gaudium et Specs 22. The case of the unknown non Catholic who is saved outside the Catholic Church. He or she is saved without faith and baptism but with goodwill.
FALSE PREMISE DEFINED
Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible.
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.
With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.
8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
JANUARY 24, 2020
Questions and Answers https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/questions-and-answers.html
JANUARY 21, 2020
Irrationality taught to Catholic children at home and in the schools.This is a family issue https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/irrationality-taught-to-catholic.html
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FEBRUARY 3, 2020
The Southern Poverty Law Center, Associated Press, Reuters and the rest of the Left accuse traditionalists of not accepting 'the reforms of Vatican Council II'. They mean Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise, inference and conclusion. They do not refer to Vatican Council II interpreted with a rational premise and inference creating a traditional conclusion. So this is false information on the Council from them.A correction and a clarification is needed. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-southern-poverty-law-center.html
With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
TERMS CLARIFIED
BOD( Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)
BOB (Baptism of Blood. The case of unknown person who is in Heaven as a martyr without the baptism of water)
I.I (Invincible ignorance: The case of an unknown non Catholics who is in Heaven without faith and baptism and instead in invincible ignorance.)
LG 8 ( Lumen Gentium 8: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth' or where the true Church of Christ allegedly subsists.
LG 14 (Lumen Gentium 14: Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)
LG 16 ( Lumen Gentium 16: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance and who is now in Heaven without faith and the baptism of water)
UR 3 (Unitatitis Redintigratiio 3, Vatican Council II : The case of the unknown Christian, who is saved in his religions without Catholic faith or the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and is allegedly known to someone on earth who has seen him or her in Heaven).
NA 2( Nostra Aetate 2: The case of the unknown non Catholic saved outside the Catholic Church without faith and baptism. He or she is saved with good and holy things in other religion or with the a ray of that Truth which enlightens all mankind.
GS 22 (Gaudium et Specs 22. The case of the unknown non Catholic who is saved outside the Catholic Church. He or she is saved without faith and baptism but with goodwill.
FALSE PREMISE DEFINED
Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible.
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.
With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, Associated Press, Reuters and the rest of the Left accuse traditionalists of not accepting 'the reforms of Vatican Council II'. They mean Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise, inference and conclusion. They do not refer to Vatican Council II interpreted with a rational premise and inference creating a traditional conclusion. So this is false information on the Council from them.A correction and a clarification is needed.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, Associated Press, Reuters and the rest of the Left accuse traditionalists of not accepting 'the reforms of Vatican Council II'. They mean Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise, inference and conclusion. They do not refer to Vatican Council II interpreted with a rational premise and inference creating a traditional conclusion. So this is false information on the Council from them.A correction and a clarification is needed.
REFORMS ONLY WITH IRRATIONALITY
When Vatican Council II is viewed with a rational premise and inference there are no ' reforms of Vatican Council II'.The Council supports the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Athanasius Creed ( outside the Church there is no salvation).So the post Vatican Council II ecclesiology today is the same pre-Vatican Council II ecclesiology of the saints Ignatius, Xavier and Bellarmine.
Unitatis Redintigratio in Vatican Council II with its reference to hypothetical cases(UR 3 etc) does not contradict the traditional ecumenism of return.
There is nothing in Lumen Gentium to contradict the past ecclesiology, since LG 8, LG 14 and LG 16 refer to hypothetical and theoretical cases only, in 1965-2020.
Nostra Aetate does not contradict Ad Gentes 7 which states all need faith and baptism for salvation. AG 7 is cited in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the sub-title Outside the Church there is no salvation.NA 2 is not an exception to AG 7.
POPE BENEDICT MADE A MISTAKE
POPE BENEDICT MADE A MISTAKE
So the secular media must clarify that the books written by Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict, Cardinal Christoph Schoborn, Fr. Aidan Nicols o.p and many others, published by Ignatius Press and others, are written with a false premise and inference to create a non traditional conclusion.This is an artificial rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).This is also the mistake of the mainstream media.
They have interpreted the Creeds, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and other magisterial documents, with the common false premise and inference.
Books have been published with this error.They confuse what is invisible as being visible.The unknown is projected as the known.How can unknown cases of LG 8, LG 16 and UR 3 be known exceptions to the past ecclesiology ?
These books with mis-information are re printed by Ignatius and other publishers, with new editions and no clarification.
ATHANASIUS CREED OBSOLETE
These books with mis-information are re printed by Ignatius and other publishers, with new editions and no clarification.
ATHANASIUS CREED OBSOLETE
There are errors in the book Credo for today, since Pope Benedict interprets the Creed with the false premise and inference, which I call Cushingism.1 The Athanasius Creed ( outside the Church there is no salvation) is made obsolete.He could also interpret magisterial documents with the false premise and inference. I call this Feeneyism.
It is the same with Cardinal Ratzinger's Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus.They are Christological only.They reject the ecclesiocentric ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.They are Cushingite.
It is the same with Cardinal Ratzinger's Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus.They are Christological only.They reject the ecclesiocentric ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.They are Cushingite.
Pope Benedict's interpretation of the Patristic period is also Cushingite.He interprets invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) as being known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 2 The Church Fathers interpreted BOD, BOB and I.I as hypothetical cases. They could not be anything else. BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be objective cases for human beings. So they were not practical exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.So there was the Feeneyite EENS for the missionaries in the 16th century and there is a Cushingite EENS for Pope Benedict today.
FANTASY THEOLOGY
For Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS and so also are LG 14( baptism of desire) and invincible ignorance ( LG 16) in Vatican Council II.They are physical bodies in Newton's time and space allegedly saved outside the Church.In other words visible in Heaven or on earth.How can they be visible in Heaven and on earth at the same time?.
FANTASY THEOLOGY
For Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS and so also are LG 14( baptism of desire) and invincible ignorance ( LG 16) in Vatican Council II.They are physical bodies in Newton's time and space allegedly saved outside the Church.In other words visible in Heaven or on earth.How can they be visible in Heaven and on earth at the same time?.
His interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and general catechesis also violates the Principle of Non Contradition. 3
The confusion is there in his books on ecclesiology.4
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA, 2, GS 22 etc are seen by him, as being exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally becomes an artificial rupture with Tradition. 5 He did not choose Vatican Council II , Feeneyite. He wanted the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.
These books should not be made available for students at the pontifical and secular universities in Italy and especially Rome, since they are written with a false premise and inference.
Similarly the books of Pope Benedict/Cardinal Ratzinger are translated in German for theology students at the German Catholic university of Euchstadt-Ingolstadt, in the archdiocese of Cardinal Reinhardt Marx.
They are now obsolete and should be removed.Similarly an article on ecclesiology in German by Cardinal Ratzinger, should not be there on line.
They are now obsolete and should be removed.Similarly an article on ecclesiology in German by Cardinal Ratzinger, should not be there on line.
Pope Benedict like the SPLC, AP, Reuters and other organizations must clarify that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with a rational premise and inference.The conclusion is traditional. It supports 16th - century EENS.This is the rational interpretation of also the Catechisms, Creeds and the dogma EENS.There is no rupture with the missionaries and Magisterium of the Middle Ages.
MEDIA MUST CORRECT REPORTS
MEDIA MUST CORRECT REPORTS
The popes and the Leftist media must no longer interpret Catholic magisterial documents with the irrational premise and inference to create a non traditional conclusion, and then present this as Catholic-teaching.Books with this error need to be phased out and new books written on the Council.They would support the past exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return with no known exceptions and Feeneyite EENS with BOD, BOB and I.I not being known exceptions.To persist with the same type of reporting in the news agencies and newspapers and with the same reasoning in new books, would be unethical.-Lionel Andrades
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FEBRUARY 2, 2020
Cardinal Ratzinger is a Cushingite and has interpreted the Nicene Creed with a false premise and inference which was not the understanding of the past centuries.Ignatius Press has published Credo for Today addressed to Christians and not Catholics. The Nicene Creed can be interpreted with Feeneyism or Cushingism and the conclusion would be different.
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FEBRUARY 2, 2020
Literal and objective errors mark Pope Benedict's books published by Ignatius Press.He has interpreted the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II irrationally
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JANUARY 14, 2020
Ignatius Press needs to pull back Pope Benedict's book on ecclesiology since it was written with a false interpretation of Vatican Council II.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/ignatius-press-needs-to-pull-back-pope.html
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JANUARY 21, 2020
Ignatius Press needs to stop publishing books on Vatican Council II by authors who interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA, 2, GS 22 etc as being exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Books written by Pope Benedict also carry this error https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/ignatius-press-needs-to-stop-publishing.html
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Ignatius Press needs to stop publishing books on Vatican Council II by authors who interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA, 2, GS 22 etc as being exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Books written by Pope Benedict also carry this error https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/ignatius-press-needs-to-stop-publishing.html
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DECEMBER 20, 2012
Archbishop Gerhard Muller says that the SSPX needs to distinguish the true teaching of the Second Vatican Council: but he will not correct Reuters https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2012/12/archbishop-gerhard-muller-says-that.html
REUTERS MAKES AN OBJECTIVE MISTAKE ON CATHOLIC DOCTRINE AND ECCLESIA DEI/ CDF DO NOT CLARIFY
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/reuters-makes-objective-mistake-on.html#links
REUTERS MAKES FACTUAL,OBJECTIVE MISTAKE TOO
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/reuters-makes-factualobjective-mistake.html#links
WASHINGTON POST REPORT ON SSPX WRONG ON CATHOLIC DOCTRINE
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/washington-post-report-on-sspx-is-wrong.html#links
REUTERS MAKES AN OBJECTIVE MISTAKE ON CATHOLIC DOCTRINE AND ECCLESIA DEI/ CDF DO NOT CLARIFY
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/reuters-makes-objective-mistake-on.html#links
JULY 19, 2018
Nicole Winfield of the Associated Press and Phillip Pullela of Reuters continue the propaganda on Vatican Council II by assuming LG 16 refers to a visible and known person saved outside the Catholic Church
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/nicole-winfield-of-associated-press-and.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/nicole-winfield-of-associated-press-and.html
OCTOBER 14, 2015
No denial from Phillip Pullela and Nicole Winfield https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/10/no-denial-from-phillip-pullela-and.html
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JULY 18, 2018
Whatever is your opinion of Fr. Leonard Feeney, LOHO, Pope Pius XII etc if LG 16 is invisible or visible determines the interpretation of Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/whatever-is-your-opinion-of-fr-leonard.html http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/archbishop-guido-pozzo-does-not-affirm.html
Whatever is your opinion of Fr. Leonard Feeney, LOHO, Pope Pius XII etc if LG 16 is invisible or visible determines the interpretation of Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/whatever-is-your-opinion-of-fr-leonard.html http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/archbishop-guido-pozzo-does-not-affirm.html
JULY 18, 2018Whether you believe in the Bologna School or what ever how you look at LG 16 determines how you interpret Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/whether-you-believe-in-bologna-school.html
JANUARY 15, 2017 Media chooses Vatican Council II (Cushingite) instead of Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) : approved magisterial heresy https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/01/media-chooses-vatican-council-ii_15.html
OCTOBER 27, 2015Associated Press blacks out information on magisterial heresy : AP reports on Vatican Council II were based on a factual error http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/associated-press-blacks-out-information.html
JANUARY 13, 2017Thomas D.Williams calls for a reform in the Church with a new theology and new doctrines which are heretical and irrational but politically correct with the Left, of which he now is a part of http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/thomas-dwilliams-calls-for-reform-in.html
OCTOBER 28, 2015 The Vatican has made a mistake and there is a cover up by liberal journalists https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-vatican-has-made-mistake-and-there.html
JULY 18, 2018
If you cite Archbishop Lefebvre, Pope Pius XII and the Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO) you are interpreting LG 16 as referring to known people saved outside the Church.You are following this train of thinking.http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/if-you-cite-archbishop-lefebvre-pope.html
DECEMBER 11, 2015
Traditionalists like Reuters correspondents use Cushingism to interpret Vatican Council II : Feeneyism cannot be part of the dialogue http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/12/traditionalists-like-reuters.html
JANUARY 15, 2017 Media chooses Vatican Council II (Cushingite) instead of Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) : approved magisterial heresy https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/01/media-chooses-vatican-council-ii_15.html
OCTOBER 27, 2015Associated Press blacks out information on magisterial heresy : AP reports on Vatican Council II were based on a factual error http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/associated-press-blacks-out-information.html
JANUARY 13, 2017Thomas D.Williams calls for a reform in the Church with a new theology and new doctrines which are heretical and irrational but politically correct with the Left, of which he now is a part of http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/thomas-dwilliams-calls-for-reform-in.html
OCTOBER 28, 2015 The Vatican has made a mistake and there is a cover up by liberal journalists https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-vatican-has-made-mistake-and-there.html
JULY 18, 2018
If you cite Archbishop Lefebvre, Pope Pius XII and the Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO) you are interpreting LG 16 as referring to known people saved outside the Church.You are following this train of thinking.http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/if-you-cite-archbishop-lefebvre-pope.html
DECEMBER 11, 2015
Traditionalists like Reuters correspondents use Cushingism to interpret Vatican Council II : Feeneyism cannot be part of the dialogue http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/12/traditionalists-like-reuters.html
Religion correspondents keep prudently silent on Magisterial Error in Vatican Council II :Vatican's CDF made a mistake
Cardinal Kaspar changed ecclesiology assuming B is an exception to A : he used an irrational model to interpret Vatican Council II
Vatican Council II has an error : secular journalists, cardinals and bishops don't know what to do http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/vatican-council-ii-has-error-secular.html
Vatican Council II has an error : secular journalists, cardinals and bishops don't know what to do http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/vatican-council-ii-has-error-secular.html
Religion journalists : did the Magisterium made a mistake? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/religion-journalists-did-magisterium.html
Religion journalists : did the Magisterium made a mistake? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/religion-journalists-did-magisterium.html
FEBRUARY 1, 2020
German theologian Marianne Schlosser a professor of theology at the University of Vienna and recipient of the 2018 Ratzinger Prize, interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, inference and non traditional conclusion which says outside the Catholic Church there is salvation.She accepts the New Theology of Pope Benedict and Pope Francis and so she is given the award.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-theologian-marianne-schlosser.html
German theologian Marianne Schlosser a professor of theology at the University of Vienna and recipient of the 2018 Ratzinger Prize, interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, inference and non traditional conclusion which says outside the Catholic Church there is salvation.She accepts the New Theology of Pope Benedict and Pope Francis and so she is given the award.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-theologian-marianne-schlosser.html
JANUARY 24, 2020
Questions and Answers https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/questions-and-answers.html
JANUARY 21, 2020
Irrationality taught to Catholic children at home and in the schools.This is a family issue https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/irrationality-taught-to-catholic.html
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TERMS CLARIFIED
BOD( Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)
BOB (Baptism of Blood. The case of unknown person who is in Heaven as a martyr without the baptism of water)
I.I (Invincible ignorance: The case of an unknown non Catholics who is in Heaven without faith and baptism and instead in invincible ignorance.)
LG 8 ( Lumen Gentium 8: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth' or where the true Church of Christ allegedly subsists.
LG 14 (Lumen Gentium 14: Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)
LG 16 ( Lumen Gentium 16: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance and who is now in Heaven without faith and the baptism of water)
UR 3 (Unitatitis Redintigratiio 3, Vatican Council II : The case of the unknown Christian, who is saved in his religions without Catholic faith or the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and is allegedly known to someone on earth who has seen him or her in Heaven).
NA 2( Nostra Aetate 2: The case of the unknown non Catholic saved outside the Catholic Church without faith and baptism. He or she is saved with good and holy things in other religion or with the a ray of that Truth which enlightens all mankind.
GS 22 (Gaudium et Specs 22. The case of the unknown non Catholic who is saved outside the Catholic Church. He or she is saved without faith and baptism but with goodwill.
FALSE PREMISE DEFINED
Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible.
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.
With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.
8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
JANUARY 24, 2020
Questions and Answers https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/questions-and-answers.html
JANUARY 21, 2020
Irrationality taught to Catholic children at home and in the schools.This is a family issue https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/irrationality-taught-to-catholic.html
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TERMS CLARIFIED
BOD( Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)
BOB (Baptism of Blood. The case of unknown person who is in Heaven as a martyr without the baptism of water)
I.I (Invincible ignorance: The case of an unknown non Catholics who is in Heaven without faith and baptism and instead in invincible ignorance.)
LG 8 ( Lumen Gentium 8: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth' or where the true Church of Christ allegedly subsists.
LG 14 (Lumen Gentium 14: Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)
LG 16 ( Lumen Gentium 16: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance and who is now in Heaven without faith and the baptism of water)
UR 3 (Unitatitis Redintigratiio 3, Vatican Council II : The case of the unknown Christian, who is saved in his religions without Catholic faith or the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and is allegedly known to someone on earth who has seen him or her in Heaven).
NA 2( Nostra Aetate 2: The case of the unknown non Catholic saved outside the Catholic Church without faith and baptism. He or she is saved with good and holy things in other religion or with the a ray of that Truth which enlightens all mankind.
GS 22 (Gaudium et Specs 22. The case of the unknown non Catholic who is saved outside the Catholic Church. He or she is saved without faith and baptism but with goodwill.
FALSE PREMISE DEFINED
Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible.
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.
With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
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