Sunday, August 29, 2021
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinnal Committee, interprets Lumen Gentium 14 ( baptism of desire) with a false premise. Bishop Athanasius Schnedier and Dr. Taylor Marshall avoid it
NOVEMBER 9, 2020
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal
Committee, interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise. His error is
there on line as proof.No one questions him about it
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise. His error is there on line as proof.No one questions him about it. -Lionel Andrades
AUGUST 29, 2021
Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall say there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire but the German Synodal path is based upon there being literal cases of the baptism of desire (LG 14) in the present times
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/08/bishop-athanasius-schneider-and-dr_29.html
SEPTEMBER 24, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committe has made a doctrinal mistake (Graphics)
-Lionel Andrades_______________________________________-
-Lionel Andrades
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SEPTEMBER 23, 2018
Things are so bad on doctrine and theology in the Catholic Church that the new Chairman of the Unites States Catholic Conference of Bishops(USCCB) cannot deny what I have written.
Things are so bad on doctrine and theology in the Catholic Church that the new Chairman of the Unites States Catholic Conference of Bishops(USCCB) cannot deny what I have written.1
He will not affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
He agrees with me?!
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither did the popes and saints over the centuries claim that they are.3.In general people will agree that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases only.
There is no denial also from Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee regarding the error he made in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
In his radio program this month he mentions 'elements of sanctification and truth'(Lumen Gentium 8) as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.This is irrational.It violates the Principle of Non Contradiction. How can we see people saved on earth ? How can they be in two places at the same time?
How can his new theology say outside the Church there is salvation.Where is this salvation?
Things are so bad on doctrine and theology in the Catholic Church that the new Chairman of the Unites States Catholic Conference of Bishops(USCCB) cannot deny what I have written.1
He will not affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
He agrees with me?!
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither did the popes and saints over the centuries claim that they are.
3.In general people will agree that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases only.
There is no denial also from Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee regarding the error he made in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
In his radio program this month he mentions 'elements of sanctification and truth'(Lumen Gentium 8) as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.This is irrational.It violates the Principle of Non Contradiction. How can we see people saved on earth ? How can they be in two places at the same time?
How can his new theology say outside the Church there is salvation.Where is this salvation?
How can his new theology say outside the Church there is salvation.Where is this salvation?
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth'.So the Council Fathers at Vatican Council II picked up the error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there are physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.So a wrong inference is made by Bishop Rhoades.3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will.So it was wrong for Bishop Kevin Rhoades to interpret Vatican Council II (LG 8 etc) as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.There is no denial from the USCCB or Bishop Rhoades. No one wants to correct me.So they know that I am correct and they do not want to say anything.-Lionel Andrades
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SEPTEMBER 22, 2018
LUMEN GENTIUM 8 AND BOD,BOB AND I.I ARE HYPOTHETICAL AND THEORETICAL AND ARE NOT EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EENS. YET FOR BISHOP KEVEN RHOADES THEY ARE EXCEPTIONS.THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE OF THE USCCB DOCTRINAL COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
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SEPTEMBER 22, 2018
Lumen Gentium 8 and BOD,BOB and I.I are hypothetical and theoretical and are not exceptions to the dogma EENS. Yet for Bishop Keven Rhoades they are exceptions.This is a big mistake of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee Chairman
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee makes an error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
In his recent radio program he cites Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth', as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.
This is irrational.1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth'.2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there are physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will, something hoped for.Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to the dogma no salvation outside the Church.
MISTAKE ON EENS TOO
Similarly he will not affirm EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.He made a mistake again.1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). We cannot see or meet any one saved as such in 2018 or over the last 100 years.The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither do the popes and saints claim they are.The Catechism of Pope Pius X mentions being saved in invincible ignorance and does not state that it refers to someone known. Similtaneously this Catechism says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and it does not mention any exceptions.3.In general people will say that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases.So Lumen Gentium 8 and BOD,BOB and I.I are hypothetical and theoretical and are not exceptions to the dogma EENS.Yet for Bishop Keven Rhoades they are exceptions.This is a big mistake.-Lionel Andrades
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee makes an error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
In his recent radio program he cites Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth', as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.
This is irrational.
Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to the dogma no salvation outside the Church.
MISTAKE ON EENS TOO
Similarly he will not affirm EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
He made a mistake again.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). We cannot see or meet any one saved as such in 2018 or over the last 100 years.The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither do the popes and saints claim they are.The Catechism of Pope Pius X mentions being saved in invincible ignorance and does not state that it refers to someone known. Similtaneously this Catechism says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and it does not mention any exceptions.
3.In general people will say that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases.
So Lumen Gentium 8 and BOD,BOB and I.I are hypothetical and theoretical and are not exceptions to the dogma EENS.
Yet for Bishop Keven Rhoades they are exceptions.This is a big mistake.
-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 22, 2018
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-supports-traditional.html SEPTEMBER 21, 2018Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html SEPTEMBER 21, 2018 
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.htmlBishop who interprets Vatican Council II and outside the Church with no salvation with irrational Cushingism instead of traditional Feeneyism is the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-who-interprets-vatican-council.htmlSEPTEMBER 16, 2018Cardinal Donald Wuerl and the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, chaired by Archbishop William E.Lori, made an objective error in the Notification on Fr. Peter C.Phan http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/cardinal-donald-wuerl-and-usccb.htmlSEPTEMBER 14, 2018
Vatican Council II says extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-says-extra-ecclesiam.html_____________________________________ 
Bishop Rhoades, like his predecessor Donald Wuerl as the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee is maintaining the duplicity on Vatican Council II and no one is complaining. Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth' in other religions does not refer to known people saved outside the Catholic Church. It is not an example of salvation outside the Church. 
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with elements of sanctification and truth. 2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. 3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will, something hoped for. Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to o salvation outside the Church. 
We can respect non Catholics, we can treat them with dignity we can even serve them in love as Jesus wants us to do so but in charity we must tell them the truth i.e Nostra Aetate no where contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). 
Literally we cannot know of any exception to EENS. The text of Nostra Aetate does not state that there are practically known exceptions to EENS. Nostra Aetate 2 refers to a hyopthetical case when it refers to ' a ray of that Truth which enlightens'. This is an abstract reference.A theoretical possibility, a hope of someone being saved outside the Church is not an actual and known case. So it cannot be an objective example of salvation outside the Church.It is the same with Lumen Gentium and Ad Gentes, they do not contradict the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century.Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it.-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.htmlSEPTEMBER 21, 2018When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.htmlSEPTEMBER 21, 2018When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.htmlhttp://connecticutcatholiccorner.blogspot.com/2018/07/how-can-dogma-change.html#disqus_thread
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-supports-traditional.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
Bishop who interprets Vatican Council II and outside the Church with no salvation with irrational Cushingism instead of traditional Feeneyism is the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-who-interprets-vatican-council.html
SEPTEMBER 16, 2018
Cardinal Donald Wuerl and the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, chaired by Archbishop William E.Lori, made an objective error in the Notification on Fr. Peter C.Phan http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/cardinal-donald-wuerl-and-usccb.html
SEPTEMBER 14, 2018
Vatican Council II says extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-says-extra-ecclesiam.html
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Bishop Rhoades, like his predecessor Donald Wuerl as the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee is maintaining the duplicity on Vatican Council II and no one is complaining.
Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth' in other religions does not refer to known people saved outside the Catholic Church. It is not an example of salvation outside the Church.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with elements of sanctification and truth.
2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.
3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will, something hoped for.
Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to o salvation outside the Church.
We can respect non Catholics, we can treat them with dignity we can even serve them in love as Jesus wants us to do so but in charity we must tell them the truth i.e Nostra Aetate no where contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
Literally we cannot know of any exception to EENS. The text of Nostra Aetate does not state that there are practically known exceptions to EENS.
Nostra Aetate 2 refers to a hyopthetical case when it refers to ' a ray of that Truth which enlightens'. This is an abstract reference.
A theoretical possibility, a hope of someone being saved outside the Church is not an actual and known case. So it cannot be an objective example of salvation outside the Church.
It is the same with Lumen Gentium and Ad Gentes, they do not contradict the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century.
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it.-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
http://connecticutcatholiccorner.blogspot.com/2018/07/how-can-dogma-change.html#disqus_thread
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SEPTEMBER 24, 2018
-Lionel Andrades
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SEPTEMBER 23, 2018
Things are so bad on doctrine and theology in the Catholic Church that the new Chairman of the Unites States Catholic Conference of Bishops(USCCB) cannot deny what I have written.
Things are so bad on doctrine and theology in the Catholic Church that the new Chairman of the Unites States Catholic Conference of Bishops(USCCB) cannot deny what I have written.1
He will not affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
He agrees with me?!
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither did the popes and saints over the centuries claim that they are.
3.In general people will agree that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases only.
There is no denial also from Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee regarding the error he made in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
In his radio program this month he mentions 'elements of sanctification and truth'(Lumen Gentium 8) as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.This is irrational.It violates the Principle of Non Contradiction. How can we see people saved on earth ? How can they be in two places at the same time?
How can his new theology say outside the Church there is salvation.Where is this salvation?
How can his new theology say outside the Church there is salvation.Where is this salvation?
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth'.So the Council Fathers at Vatican Council II picked up the error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there are physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.So a wrong inference is made by Bishop Rhoades.3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will.So it was wrong for Bishop Kevin Rhoades to interpret Vatican Council II (LG 8 etc) as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.There is no denial from the USCCB or Bishop Rhoades. No one wants to correct me.So they know that I am correct and they do not want to say anything.-Lionel Andrades
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SEPTEMBER 22, 2018
LUMEN GENTIUM 8 AND BOD,BOB AND I.I ARE HYPOTHETICAL AND THEORETICAL AND ARE NOT EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EENS. YET FOR BISHOP KEVEN RHOADES THEY ARE EXCEPTIONS.THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE OF THE USCCB DOCTRINAL COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
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Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee makes an error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
In his recent radio program he cites Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth', as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.
This is irrational.1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth'.2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there are physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will, something hoped for.Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to the dogma no salvation outside the Church.
MISTAKE ON EENS TOO
Similarly he will not affirm EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.He made a mistake again.1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). We cannot see or meet any one saved as such in 2018 or over the last 100 years.The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither do the popes and saints claim they are.The Catechism of Pope Pius X mentions being saved in invincible ignorance and does not state that it refers to someone known. Similtaneously this Catechism says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and it does not mention any exceptions.3.In general people will say that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases.So Lumen Gentium 8 and BOD,BOB and I.I are hypothetical and theoretical and are not exceptions to the dogma EENS.Yet for Bishop Keven Rhoades they are exceptions.This is a big mistake.-Lionel Andrades
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee makes an error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
In his recent radio program he cites Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth', as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.
This is irrational.
Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to the dogma no salvation outside the Church.
MISTAKE ON EENS TOOSimilarly he will not affirm EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
He made a mistake again.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). We cannot see or meet any one saved as such in 2018 or over the last 100 years.The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither do the popes and saints claim they are.The Catechism of Pope Pius X mentions being saved in invincible ignorance and does not state that it refers to someone known. Similtaneously this Catechism says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and it does not mention any exceptions.
3.In general people will say that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases.
So Lumen Gentium 8 and BOD,BOB and I.I are hypothetical and theoretical and are not exceptions to the dogma EENS.
Yet for Bishop Keven Rhoades they are exceptions.This is a big mistake.
-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 22, 2018
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-supports-traditional.html SEPTEMBER 21, 2018Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html SEPTEMBER 21, 2018 When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.htmlBishop who interprets Vatican Council II and outside the Church with no salvation with irrational Cushingism instead of traditional Feeneyism is the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-who-interprets-vatican-council.htmlSEPTEMBER 16, 2018Cardinal Donald Wuerl and the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, chaired by Archbishop William E.Lori, made an objective error in the Notification on Fr. Peter C.Phan http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/cardinal-donald-wuerl-and-usccb.htmlSEPTEMBER 14, 2018 Vatican Council II says extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-says-extra-ecclesiam.html_____________________________________
Bishop Rhoades, like his predecessor Donald Wuerl as the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee is maintaining the duplicity on Vatican Council II and no one is complaining. Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth' in other religions does not refer to known people saved outside the Catholic Church. It is not an example of salvation outside the Church. 1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with elements of sanctification and truth. 2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. 3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will, something hoped for. Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to o salvation outside the Church. We can respect non Catholics, we can treat them with dignity we can even serve them in love as Jesus wants us to do so but in charity we must tell them the truth i.e Nostra Aetate no where contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). Literally we cannot know of any exception to EENS. The text of Nostra Aetate does not state that there are practically known exceptions to EENS. Nostra Aetate 2 refers to a hyopthetical case when it refers to ' a ray of that Truth which enlightens'. This is an abstract reference.A theoretical possibility, a hope of someone being saved outside the Church is not an actual and known case. So it cannot be an objective example of salvation outside the Church.It is the same with Lumen Gentium and Ad Gentes, they do not contradict the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century.Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it.-Lionel AndradesSEPTEMBER 21, 2018Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.htmlSEPTEMBER 21, 2018When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.htmlSEPTEMBER 21, 2018When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.htmlhttp://connecticutcatholiccorner.blogspot.com/2018/07/how-can-dogma-change.html#disqus_thread
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Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-supports-traditional.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
Bishop who interprets Vatican Council II and outside the Church with no salvation with irrational Cushingism instead of traditional Feeneyism is the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-who-interprets-vatican-council.html
SEPTEMBER 16, 2018
Cardinal Donald Wuerl and the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, chaired by Archbishop William E.Lori, made an objective error in the Notification on Fr. Peter C.Phan http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/cardinal-donald-wuerl-and-usccb.html
SEPTEMBER 14, 2018
Vatican Council II says extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-says-extra-ecclesiam.html
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Bishop Rhoades, like his predecessor Donald Wuerl as the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee is maintaining the duplicity on Vatican Council II and no one is complaining.
Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth' in other religions does not refer to known people saved outside the Catholic Church. It is not an example of salvation outside the Church.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with elements of sanctification and truth.
2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.
3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will, something hoped for.
Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to o salvation outside the Church.
We can respect non Catholics, we can treat them with dignity we can even serve them in love as Jesus wants us to do so but in charity we must tell them the truth i.e Nostra Aetate no where contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
Literally we cannot know of any exception to EENS. The text of Nostra Aetate does not state that there are practically known exceptions to EENS.
Nostra Aetate 2 refers to a hyopthetical case when it refers to ' a ray of that Truth which enlightens'. This is an abstract reference.
A theoretical possibility, a hope of someone being saved outside the Church is not an actual and known case. So it cannot be an objective example of salvation outside the Church.
It is the same with Lumen Gentium and Ad Gentes, they do not contradict the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century.
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it.-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
http://connecticutcatholiccorner.blogspot.com/2018/07/how-can-dogma-change.html#disqus_thread
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