Fr.Joseph Ratzinger, later to be Pope Benedict, and his friends at Vatican Council II (1965) were so bold that they decided to eliminate the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) from the Church, with the use of a false premise.Then his friends, made him the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican, to maintain the false narrative on Vatican Council II and EENS.So in 2016, as Pope Benedict,he said that EENS today is not like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century. There was a development with Vatican Council II for him.He meant Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise but he did not disclose this.Now he still interprets the Council with the false premise while I do not do so.
REDEMPTORIS MISSIO IS FLAWED
He then wrote Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus using the false premise.So these Church documents do not outright say that there is no salvation outside the Church and that every one needs to be a formal member of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell ( for salvation).
Instead these documents are Christocentric and not ecclesiocentric. They fit in with the vague concept of Jesus and the Church today, important for the new one world religion of Bertrand Russell, the Theosophists and Masons, which will be anti-Christ in its essence.
DOMINUS IESUS WITH THE FALSE PREMISE
So Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus are not like the Church
documents of the past, which would directly say that all non Catholics need to
enter the Church formally for salvation from Hell, example, the Catechism of
Pope Pius X ( 24Q,27Q).
So there was no opposition from the Left to his New Theology,
based on the false premise, confusing invisible cases of the baptism of desire
and invincible ignorance as being visible examples of salvation outside the
Church, in the present times (1965-2021), when in reality there are no such
cases.
We undo all his bad work when we are aware that there is nothing in
the entire text of Lumen Gentium to
contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.LG 8,LG 14,LG 16, UR
3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, can only refer to hypothetical,
theoretical and speculative cases.They exist only in our mind. They are not
references to known people; real people whom we can know on earth. So they
cannot be practical exceptions for the exclusivist interpretation of EENS.
We undo Pope Benedict’s error when we are aware that there is
nothing in the entire text of Unitatis Redintigratio(UR) to contradict the past
ecumenism of return.UR 3 refers to hypothetical cases. We cannot know of any Protestant
who will be saved in ‘imperfect communion’ with the Church, outside the Church.
TRADITIONAL MISSION UN-CHANGED
Vatican Council II has not changed the traditional teaching of
the Church on Mission and the necessity for all non Catholics, in general, with
no known exceptions, having to accept
Jesus in the Catholic Church, for salvation from Hell.When the Church refers
to those who ‘know’ and do not enter
formally (LG 14), the Council Fathers at Vatican Council II assumed
invincible ignorance was a visible case and an exception for Feeneyite EENS.It
was a mistake.
So Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation.Period. Those who have had the Gospel
preached to them and are not in invincible ignorance,or, who are in invincible
ignorance, can only be judged by God and saved, either way.So there are no
exceptions to Ad Gentes 7.It is orthodox. All all need faith and baptism
for salvation and not just those who know.Those who know or do not know are irrelevant for us human beings
on earth.Since they are unknown, invisible cases in 1965-2021. They cannot be projected as practical exceptions to the past Mission doctrines, which were ecclesiocentric.
The norm for salvation is faith and baptism and we cannot know
of any exception to the norm, in the present times (1965-2021).
RE-READ LOHO
So now just as we read Vatican Council II
as not being in conflict with the strict
interpretation of EENS, since 'the red is
not an exception to the blue', we can re-
interpret the ‘hypothetical passages’; the
red passages in those Church documents.
It is the same with the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the
Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney(LOHO).The second part of
the LOHO (red) does not contradict the first part; the introduction ( blue ),
which is orthodox on EENS.
FOUR MARKS OF THE CHURCH
By being aware of the explicit-implicit, visible-invisible
distinction ( Two Columns), we can affirm the Four Marks of the Church (one,
holy, Catholic, Apostolic) and also Vatican Council II, interpreted rationally (
with the blue left hand side column).The ecclesiology of the Catholic Church
before and after Vatican Council II is exclusivist.There is no development of
doctrine or new revelation in the Council-text. –Lionel Andrades
JULY 8, 2021
All the books on
Vatican Council II, Ecclesiology, Ecumenism etc authored by Pope
Benedict/Cardinal Ratzinger were written with the hermeutic of rupture wih
Tradition
Picture this.All the books on Vatican Council II Ecclesiology, Ecumenics etc authored by Pope Benedict/Cardinal Ratzinger were written :-
1. He used 'the fake premise' to create the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition(EENS, Syllabus etc).
2. He used the 'the right hand side irrational column' to create 'a development of doctrine' , 'a new revelation', 'the spirit of Vatican Council II' and the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.
3.He used 'the red being an exception to the blue' to make Vatican Council II a 'revolution in the Church with a hermeneutic of rupture with traditional Mission, Ecumenism of Return, exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church etc.
FAKE PREMISE OF POPE BENEDICT
Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.
FAKE INFERENCE BENEDICT
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
FAKE CONCLUSION OF POPE BENEDICT
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.
Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.
RATIONAL PREMISE OF LIONEL
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.
RATIONAL INFERENCE OF LIONEL
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.
RATIONAL CONCLUSION OF LIONEL
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake it used the false premise, inference and conclusion.
TWO COLUMN APPROACHor defacto ( in fact ).
subjective or objective.
So one can choose from the left hand side or the right hand side column.
If the right hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition in general on other religions and Christian communities and churches. There are known exceptions in 2021 to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Cathlic Church. The dead-saved are visible.- If the left hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus, nor Tradition on other religions and Christian communities and churches.
Most people interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side values.Bishop Roland Minnerath and the Diocesan priests in Dijon, France use the irrational right hand side column.So there is an artificial break with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance never ever were an exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney, unless one is using the right hand side column.There were, and are, no known exceptions.
Now, among those things which the Church has always preached and will never cease to preach is contained also that infallible statement by which we are taught that there
is no salvation outside the Church.
However, this dogma must be understood in that sense in which the Church herself understands it. For, it was not to private judgments that Our Savior gave for explanation those things that are contained in the deposit of faith, but to the teaching authority of the Church...
which is the Church, and to remain united to Christ and to His Vicar, through whom He Himself in a visible manner governs the Church on earth...
Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.
Not only did the Savior command that all nations should enter the Church, but He also decreed the Church to be a means of salvation without which no one can enter the kingdom of eternal glory.
In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects,necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic
necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing. This we see clearly stated in the Sacred Council of Trent, both in reference to the sacrament of regeneration and in reference to the sacrament of penance (, nn. 797, 807).
However, this desire need not always be explicit,as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God.
MAGISTERIAL DOCUMENTS CAN BE INTERPRETED WITH 1)THE RED PASSAGES BEING AN EXCEPTION TO THE BLUE PASSAGES OR WITH 2)THE RED PASSAGES NOT BEING AN EXCEPTION TO THE BLUE PASSAGES.THE LATTER(2) IS RATIONAL.
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him...- Ad Gentes 7. Vatican Council II
They are fully incorporated in the society of the Church who, possessing the Spirit of Christ accept her entire system and all the means of salvation given to her, and are united with her as part of her visible bodily structure and through her with Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. The bonds which bind men to the Church in a visible way are profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical government and communion. He is not saved, however, who, though part of the body of the Church, does not persevere in charity. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but, as it were, only in a "bodily" manner and not "in his heart."(12*) All the Church's children should remember that their exalted status is to be attributed not to their own merits but to the special grace of Christ. If they fail moreover to respond to that grace in thought, word and deed, not only shall they not be saved but they will be the more severely judged.(13*)
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
"Outside the Church there is no salvation" 846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
- Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
- Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
-Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848
SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2020
Literal and objective errors mark Pope Benedict's books published by Ignatius Press.He has interpreted the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II irrationally
CHURCH FATHERS AND TEACHERS
From Leo the Great to Peter Lombard
Even Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus were written with Cushingism. The Ratzinger theology was there, with the false premise and inference to create a conclusion which had the hermeneutic of rupture with Catholic Tradition.There cannot be a Catechesis or an interpretation of the Gospel,for him, according to St. Ignatius of Loyola, St.Francis Xavier or St.Robert Bellarmine.-Lionel Andrades
FEBRUARY 2, 2020
Living the Catechism of the Catholic Church by Cardinal Schonborn (Ignatius) is inadequate. It has interpreted the Catechism irrationally with the Cushingite premise, inference and conclusion. The Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the Ratzinger theology.
FEBRUARY 2, 2020
Fr.Aidan Nicols Dominican Master of Sacred Theology has authored The Theology of Joseph Ratzinger (1988) and like the pope interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, inference and conclusion. This is a fault line in the books of Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict pubished by Ignatius Press.Pope Benedict and Fr. Nicols need to stop promoting their books with the misinformation
FEBRUARY 1, 2020
Ignatius Press needs to acknowledge that Pope Benedict, Aidan Nicols and so many of their authors have made an objective mistake
JANUARY 14, 2020
Ignatius Press needs to pull back Pope Benedict's book on ecclesiology since it was written with a false interpretation of Vatican Council II.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/ignatius-press-needs-to-pull-back-pope.html
JANUARY 21, 2020
Ignatius Press needs to stop publishing books on Vatican Council II by authors who interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA, 2, GS 22 etc as being exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Books written by Pope Benedict also carry this error https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/ignatius-press-needs-to-stop-publishing.html
JANUARY 14, 2020
Attention Jesuits : Before you write new books on Vatican Council II please do not make this mistake ( Graphics ) https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/attention-jesuits-before-you-write-new.html
NOVEMBER 11, 2019
The Oxford University Press has produced many books on Vatican Council II based upon a false premise. A deceptive rupture is created with Catholic Tradition
OCTOBER 30, 2019
There is a fundamental mistake in the theology of Vatican Council II. We have to reconcile ourselves with this.The Council Fathers blew it.They made an elementary mistake violating the laws of physics.Upon a false premise and inference they created a new theology. Then the periti, after 1965, upheld the false narrative.Until today, it's all a secret for them, especially for Pope Benedict. Pope Benedict is still hiding the truth.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/there-is-fundamental-mistake-in.html
OCTOBER 29, 2019
Such a staggering thought.All those thousands of books, numerous, written on Vatican Council II have a major theological error. They should be thrown into the dustbin- O'Malley, Kasper, Faggioli,Gherardini,Mattei, Ferrara.They violate Newton's laws of physics and Aristotle's Principle of Non Contradiction https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/such-staggering-thoughtall-those.html
OCTOBER 29, 2019
The 16 books of Vatican Council II have an error. They violate the Principle of Non Contradiction. The Council Fathers misunderstood the laws of physics. They wrongly assumed the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) referred to physical bodies in time and space. They they created a new false theology based upon this irrationality. This cannot be magisterial but is human error. Since the Holy Spirit cannot make a factual and objective error.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-16-books-of-vatican-council-ii-have.html
Such a staggering thought.All those thousands of books, numerous, written on Vatican Council II have a major theological error. They should be thrown into the dustbin- O'Malley, Kasper, Faggioli,Gherardini,Mattei, Ferrara.They violate Newton's laws of physics and Aristotle's Principle of Non Contradiction https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/such-staggering-thoughtall-those.html OCTOBER 29, 2019
The 16 books of Vatican Council II have an error. They violate the Principle of Non Contradiction. The Council Fathers misunderstood the laws of physics. They wrongly assumed the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) referred to physical bodies in time and space. They they created a new false theology based upon this irrationality. This cannot be magisterial but is human error. Since the Holy Spirit cannot make a factual and objective error.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-16-books-of-vatican-council-ii-have.htmlOCTOBER 28, 2019
When I say that the baptism of desire (BOD), Baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance (I.I) are not objective people in 2019, I refer to physics. Physics refers to stationary and moving bodies, acceleration,gravity, force etc.According to Newton's Laws of Physics we humans cannot see someone saved outside the Church with BOD, BOB and I.I ?
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/when-i-say-that-baptism-of-desire-bod.html
OCTOBER 28, 2019
BOD, BOB and I.I and EENS and LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to invisible cases in 2019. They are not objective people in the present times.This is a reality every rational adult and professional has to accept. This is the objective understanding of a reality shared by people in general. So if a professional denies it, something is wrong.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/bod-bob-and-ii-and-eens-bod-bob-and-ii.html
OCTOBER 28, 2019
Repost : Books to avoid - Fenton and Hardon's theology is off the rails
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/repost-books-to-avoid-fenton-and.html
OCTOBER 29, 2019
According to the laws of physics there are no exceptions to the traditional strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) of the popes and saints over the centuries.So the New Theology, New Ecclesiology, New Ecumenism and New Evangelisation is a lot of nonsense
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/according-to-laws-of-physics-there-are.html FEBRUARY 2, 2020
The Balamand Declaration and the Joint Declaration with the Lutherans on Justification are really null since they were based upon a false interpretation of Vatican Council II. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-balamand-declaration-and-joint.html
JUNE 12, 2018
The Joint Statement of the Catholics and Lutherans on Justification and the Balamand Declaration were false. Lutherans and Orthodox Christians do not have the faith needed for salvation.Pope Benedict was a Cushingite who rejected EENS https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-joint-declaration-of-catolics-and.html
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The Balamand Declaration and the Joint Declaration with the Lutherans on Justification are really null since they were based upon a false interpretation of Vatican Council II. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-balamand-declaration-and-joint.html
JUNE 12, 2018
The Joint Statement of the Catholics and Lutherans on Justification and the Balamand Declaration were false. Lutherans and Orthodox Christians do not have the faith needed for salvation.Pope Benedict was a Cushingite who rejected EENS https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-joint-declaration-of-catolics-and.html
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Would you interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side or left hand side column?
LEFT HAND SIDE COLUMN - RIGHT HAND SIDE COLUMN
All salvation referred to in Vatican Council II i.e saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3),seeds of the Word (AG 11), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) etc are either:
implicit or explicit for us.
hypothetical or known in reality.
invisible or visible in the flesh.
dejure(in principle)