Wednesday, June 22, 2022

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger did not announce that Vatican Council II could be interpreted with a Rational Premise and the Church would return to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus: instead he maintained the False Premise in the interpretation of the Council and excommunicated Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. The SSPX still doesn’t seem to know about it



Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger did not announce that Vatican Council II could be interpreted with a Rational Premise and the Church would return to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).Instead he maintained the False Premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and excommunicated Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. The SSPX still doesn’t seem to know about it. There is no comment from them.

Peter Kwasniewski and Taylor Marshall are not writing about it since they do not want to affirm Feeneyite EENS and neither do they want to say that Archbishop Lefebvre, Michael Davies, Fr. Nicholas Gruner, John Vennari, Chris Ferrara, Roberto dei Mattei, Joseph Shaw and Bishop Athanasius Schneider made an objective error.Also religious communities had been using the False Premise. They are free now to choose the Rational Option.

Vatican Council II is Feeneyite. The Catholic Church has returned to the pre-1949 traditional exclusivist ecclesiology which is not contradicted by Vatican Council II interpreted with the Rational Premise.

The Rational Premise says invisible cases are invisible and the Irrational Premise says invisible cases are physically visible in the present times (2022).

So if LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to invisible people then they are not practical exceptions for the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century, when they offered the Traditional Latin Mass.

However if LG 8 etc refer to physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water in 1965-2022, they become practical exceptions for the strict interpretation of EENS as it was held in the Patristic period when Mass was offered in Greek.

Now we know that only the rational and traditional interpretation of Vatican Council II is honest and ethical and it will take the Church back to the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Jesuits in the Middle Ages. There is no other rational and traditional option.

This was not known to Archbishop Lefebvre, the SSPX bishops, Plineo Correa de Oliveira and other traditionalists. They accepted the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston which confused invisible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance as being visible exceptions for Feeneyite EENS. This was political. They also maintained the false excommunication of Fr. Leonard Feeney who was not saying anything new.

When Archbishop Lefebvre refused to accept Vatican Council II it was a time of tension. Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger could not affirm Feeneyite EENS and oppose the Left. They did not tell Lefebvre about the rational option. Instead they went ahead with a Leftist excommunication.

Now we have found the missing link.

We know that the popes did not ask Lefebvre to interpret Vatican Council II, rationally, as does  Maria Philomena MICM, Director of the St. Augustine Institute of Wisdom, New Hampshire, USA. Neither is Pope Francis asking the SSPX and the traditionalists to interpret the Council rationally like the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior at the St. Benedict Center, NH has said that speculative cases cannot be practical exceptions for EENS.

But the Diocese of Manchester, USA and the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith have to confuse speculative cases as being practical exceptions for EENS, otherwise they will be affirming Feeneyite EENS, like the religious community in New Hampshire against whom they have placed a Decree of Prohibitions.

Cardinal Sean O Malley, the archbishop of Boston, does not want to announce that Boston College and the Archdiocese of Boston were wrong in the Fr. Leonard Feeney Case. The Boston Heresy Case referred the heresy and schisn of the hierarchical Church of that time, including the Jesuits, who had confused invisible cases as being objective examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church.

Fr. Leonard Feeney was fortunate to have had the excommunication lifted during his time without having to fortunate. Archbishop Lefebvre was correct. Vatican Council II interpreted with the common False Premise was heretical and schismatic. He correctly rejected it. But the excommunication was not lifted during his life time.-Lionel Andrades



They did not tell him

 



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Lionel Andrades



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JUNE 17, 2022

Sister Maria Philomena MICM, Director, St. Augustine Institute of Wisdom interprets Vatican Council II with a Rational Premise but Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was not informed about this possibility, by Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger

 Sister Maria Philomena MICM, Director, St. Augustine Institute of Wisdom interprets Vatican Council II with a Rational Premise but Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was not informed about this possibility, by Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger.

He was not informed. No one told him about it. The SSPX bishops have also not spoken about it over the last 50-plus years.

They did not tell him that he could interpret Vatican Council II with a Rational Premise and there would be a continuity with Tradition.

Instead they excommunicated him. He would not accept Vatican Council II interpreted with a False Premise since there was an obvious break with Tradition. It would be heretical and schismatic. Yet Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger accepted this irrational interpretation of the Council.


Pope Francis is now imposing this same irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, upon the whole Church, through Traditionis Custode.

Until today the SSPX bishops are not told that they can affirm Vatican Council II with a Rational Premise and so there will be continuity with the theology of the pre-1962 missal.-Lionel Andrades




JUNE 17, 2022

Repost : Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger did not tell Archbishop Lefebre the truth : issues for the Italian Parliament

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/06/repost-pope-john-paul-ii-and-cardinal.html








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The Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics cannot be proclaimed based upon Vatican Council II interpreted with the False Premise since then there are false exceptions projected for their being exclusvise salvation in the Catholic Church

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MAY 7, 2022

The Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics cannot be proclaimed based upon Vatican Council II interpreted with the False Premise since then there are false exceptions projected for their being exclusvise salvation in the Catholic Church

 


The Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics cannot be proclaimed based  upon Vatican Council II interpreted with the False Premise since then there are false exceptions projected for their being exclusvise salvation in the Catholic Church.

John Gibbs and Church Militant TV have to interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise. This is the only rational option possible. It would be unethical to continue to use the False Premise.

With Vatican Council II, rational, there are no practical exceptions mentioned in the text of Vatican Council II for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, as it was known to the Church Fathers, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.

So there is no theological and doctrinal break with the Patristic period in the Catholic Church and the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics can be proclaimed.  -Lionel Andrades



 MAY 7, 2022

John Gibbs, Catholic Republican candidate for Congress in Michigan speaks about devotion to Christ the King. He says that our faith is meant to impact the whole world around us and Christ has the right to rule all aspects of creation, not only our personal faith but also in all society, nature , environment..

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CATHOLICS RUNNING

RUNNING TO RESTORE.

May 6, 2022  86 Comments

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https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-catholics-running


https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-catholics-running

I accept all Magisterial Documents but I interpret them rationally : the popes did not tell Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre that he could do the same, there was a rational option available for him too.

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APRIL 7, 2022

I accept all Magisterial Documents but I interpret them rationally unlike the rest of the laity in Italy- unlike all the religious communities in Rome.





Cardinal Angelo Donatis, the Vicar General in Rome interprets Magisterial Documents ( Vatican Council II etc) with a Fake Premise and then welcomes a Fake Rupture with the exclusivist theology of the Roman Missal ( 1580) . He has banned this Missal and the Latin Mass in Rome for the Easter Triduum.

 This Good Friday there will be no Prayer for the Conversion of the Jews, who die without ‘faith and baptism’ (Ad Gentes 7), which is needed by all non Christians, for salvation from Hell with the lake of fire.

The Catholic laity must still request the Vicariate in Rome to kindly re-interpret Vatican Council II, but with a Rational Premise (invisible people are invisible). Then there will be the old link with Catholic Tradition. It will give the green light for the laity to affirm the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q).It is then that the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics ( Quas Primas), will make sense.

AMORIS LAETITIA WAS BASED UPON THE UNETHICAL INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II

Pope Francis like Cardinal Donatis has used the unethical interpretation of Vatican Council II to justify Amoris Laetitia and the Abu Dhabi Statement. In the sense that Vatican Council II ( Irrational) can produce practical exceptions for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church.So then why cannot the Eucharist be given to the divorced and remarried and why cannot we expect all non Catholics, in general, to go to Heaven without Catholic faith and the baptism of water? This is irrational reasoning and it is expressed in Vatican Council II (Rational).

VATICAN COUNCIL II ( RATIONAL) CREATES UNITY AND ENDS SCHISM

Vatican Council II (Rational) does not have any practical exceptions for the past ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical and invisible cases and not objective and known non Catholics, saved without faith and baptism, in 2022.So the pope can no more use the Council (irrational) to justify his heresy and schism.

At the Legion of Christ university and seminary in Rome, where I studied ( UPRA/PIMME) they interpret Magisterial Documents with the False Premise.The  faculty still today call it ‘keeping in step with the Church’. Students who do not this are not allowed to sit for the Final Comprehension Examination.They are also out of step for an academic degree from the university. They cannot stay at the seminary (PIMME).

AT ALL THE CHURCHES IN ROME THEY USE THE FALSE PREMISE

At all the churches in Rome, Vatican Council II is being given to the people with the  False Premise. Then it was said by the Prefects of the CDF (Ratzinger, Muller, Ladaria) that there practical exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed and Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).

I accept all Magisterial Documents but I interpret them rationally unlike the rest of the laity in Italy-unlike all the religious communities in Rome.

I do not confuse what is subjective as being objective and what is invisible as being visible, as they do.

Confusing what is implicit as being explicit is the official mistake of Cardinal Angelo Donatis and his auxiliary bishops at the Rome Vicariate.It is also the public mistake of Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), who works at the Vatican and in Rome.

CARDINAL BURKE DOES NOT SEE HIS BIAS(CONFUSING WHAT IS INVISIBLE AS BEING VISIBLE)

I attend Holy Mass in Italian or Latin and I do not interpret Vatican Council II like Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke who lives in Rome. He uses the False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and sees before him a  False Rupture with Vatican Council II (Rational).He then runs down Vatican Council II (Irrational) blinded by his error. He does not see this specific error in the Council-text because of his bias(confusing what is invisible as being visible). The FSSP priests at their church in Rome, where Cardinal Donatis has placed a ban for the Easter Triduum, do the same.

I AM NOT PROCLAIMING ANY THING NEW

I am not proclaiming anything new but they are innovative and non-traditional and in the majority with the common error. So I seem different.

They use a False Premise and bring out an artificial and calculated rupture with Tradition. I avoid it with a reasoning which  takes me back to the old traditional ecclesiology of the Church.

I AM NOT CREATING A NEW THEOLOGY

I am not creating a new theology. I am only putting away the False Premise.It has created the New Theology (with practical exceptions for EENS), upon which Donatis and Ladaria depend upon, for their liberalism.

So they have limited freedom of religion and worship given to them by the Leftist government in Italy, which supports Satanic values. May be they feel that if they do not create the False Rupture with Tradition, they will lose their freedom in Italy.

-Lionel Andrades

Pope Pius XII, Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria were wrong and Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct : apology from CDF long over due : the popes used the False Premise. They did not ask Catholics to only use the Rational Premise which is in harmony with Feeneyite EENS

 

 MAY 5, 2022

Pope Pius XII, Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria were wrong and Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct : apology from CDF long over due

 

FEBRUARY 12, 2018



Pope Pius XII, Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria were wrong and Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct : apology from CDF long over due

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/pope-pius-xii-pope-benedict-and.html



 FEBRUARY 12, 2018

Image result for Photo Fr.Leonard Feeney


Vatican(CDF) and Jesuits review the Fr.Leonard Feeney case : How could invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance be visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS?: The Magisterium made a mistake

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/vatican-and-jesuits-review-frleonard.html


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JANUARY 17, 2018

I am a Feeneyite who does not reject Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-feeneyite-who-does-not-reject.html

FEBRUARY 17, 2018


I am a Feeneyite who does not reject BOD, BOB and I.I
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-feeneyite-who-does-not-reject-bod.html


FEBRUARY 17, 2018
I affirm baptism of desire(BOD) Feeneyite and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) Feeneyite.I do not reject BOD,baptism of blood (BOB)and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) which are always Feeneyite for me.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-affirm-baptism-of-desirebod-feeneyite.html

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JANUARY 27, 2018
What is Feeneyism? (Graphics)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/what-is-feeneyism.html

JANUARY 27, 2018
What is Cushingism ?(Graphics)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/what-is-cushingism-graphics.html

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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/018/01/you-decide.html
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WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF 

VATICAN COUNCIL II : YOURS AND MINE


Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter : @LionelAndrades1

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