I met the bishop in whose diocese Sant Agapito is
situated. He’s a Feeneyite. Not because he said so but because Vatican Council
II interpreted rationally makes him one. If the bishop would say invisible
cases are invisible only, he would be a Feeneyite.
If he said invisible cases are physically visible in
2024, he would be a Cushingite.
Cushingism is irrational, non magisterial and dishonest. It is responsible for the hermeneutic of rupture instead of continuity with Tradition.
So now we have discovered the secret. We now know how
to choose the hermeneutic of rupture or continuity with Tradition. It is as simple as pressing a
button or turning on an electric switch.
For me Vatican Council II is Feeneyite. For Pope
Francis and the Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez, the Council is Cushingite.
But Pope Francis and the cardinals are no longer
obligated to interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism. There is a rational
option, it is Feeneyite and not Cushingite.
Similarly for the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the Italian Bishops Conference, Vatican Council II rational, would have them saying outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation. They would be affirming the orthodox passages in the Council (AG 7, LG 14 etc) and the hypothetical (and no more objective cases) would not be exceptions. Lumen Gentium 8,14,15,16 etc would always be hypothetical and physically invisible in 2024.
So like Pope Francis and the Parish Priest of Sant
Agapito, the local bishop would have to interpret Vatican Council II rationally
since this is the moral thing to do. It is the only ethical option he has.
Even the Cardinal-Vicar General in Rome is obliged to interpret Vatican Council
II only honestly and not politically and dishonestly.
The result is that the bishops in Rome return to the
exclusivist ecclesiology of the 16th century.
Politically, they may not like this but the Council,
morally can only be interpreted rationally and not irrationally. They cannot
intentionally confuse what is invisible as being visible.
So with Vatican Council II they emerge as
traditionalists.
The bishops, Pope Francis and Cardinal Victor Manuel
Fernandez are Feeneyite on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Vatican
Council II, the Creeds, the old Councils and all the Catechisms. We have unity
in doctrine and theology at last. There is no rupture with St. Francis of Assisi, St.Catherine of Siena and St. Thomas Aquinas.
They can no more teach that Vatican Council II is a
break with Tradition. Instead they have to say that the Council has the same
ecclesiology as the Jesuits of the Middle Ages, when they offered the Latin
Mass. We are back to the First Century, to the time of Church Fathers and the
Apostles, when Mass was offered in Greek.
So when I say that I affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed, it is based upon the only rational option available for the auxiliary bishops and the Vicar General in Rome, when they interpret Vatican Council II rationally. This would be the interpretation of Pope Francis and my Parish Priest. They have to affirm Vatican Council II like me. This is the Council in which LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are seen as only hypothetical cases. They are not objective exceptions for the past exclusivist ecclesiology. - Lionel Andrades
FEBRUARY 1, 2024
So really they are all affirming the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church, since morally, they must choose only the rational interpretation of the Council and not the Alberto Melloni (Bologna School), irrational version, which is political and not Catholic
FEBRUARY 5, 2020
FALSE PREMISE, INFERENCE AND CONCLUSION (GRAPHICS)
NOVEMBER 2, 2016
When an irrational premise is used I refer to it as Cushingism. When there is a rational premise, I refer to it as Feeneyism.
THE RED IS NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BLUE
Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him...- Ad Gentes 7. Vatican Council II
THE RED IS NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BLUE
14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.
They are fully incorporated in the society of the Church who, possessing the Spirit of Christ accept her entire system and all the means of salvation given to her, and are united with her as part of her visible bodily structure and through her with Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. The bonds which bind men to the Church in a visible way are profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical government and communion. He is not saved, however, who, though part of the body of the Church, does not persevere in charity. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but, as it were, only in a "bodily" manner and not "in his heart."(12*) All the Church's children should remember that their exalted status is to be attributed not to their own merits but to the special grace of Christ. If they fail moreover to respond to that grace in thought, word and deed, not only shall they not be saved but they will be the more severely judged.(13*)
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
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THE RED IS NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BLUE
Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848
"Outside the Church there is no salvation" 846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
- Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
- Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
-Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848
THE RED IS NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BLUE
DOMINUS IESUS
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Now, among those things which the Church has always preached and will never cease to preach is contained also that infallible statement by which we are taught that there
is no salvation outside the Church.
However, this dogma must be understood in that sense in which the Church herself understands it. For, it was not to private judgments that Our Savior gave for explanation those things that are contained in the deposit of faith, but to the teaching authority of the Church...
which is the Church, and to remain united to Christ and to His Vicar, through whom He Himself in a visible manner governs the Church on earth...
Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.
Not only did the Savior command that all nations should enter the Church, but He also decreed the Church to be a means of salvation without which no one can enter the kingdom of eternal glory.
In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects,necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic
necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing. This we see clearly stated in the Sacred Council of Trent, both in reference to the sacrament of regeneration and in reference to the sacrament of penance (, nn. 797, 807).
However, this desire need not always be explicit,as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God.