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Repost : Don Gianfranco Girlanda sj è l'Assistente pontificio della Legione di Cristo e dei Francescani dell'Immacolata, comunita religiosi. Vorrei chiedergli la sua risposta a queste domande e quindi gliele invio.

 

MARCH 14, 2021

Don Gianfranco Girlanda sj è l'Assistente pontificio della Legione di Cristo e dei Francescani dell'Immacolata, comunita religiosi. Vorrei chiedergli la sua risposta a queste domande e quindi gliele invio.

Don Gianfranco Girlanda sj è l'Assistente pontificio della Legione di Cristo e dei Francescani dell'Immacolata, comunita religiosi. Vorrei chiedergli la sua risposta a queste domande e quindi gliele invio.


Non ci sono non cattolici fisicamente visibili nel 2021 che vengono salvati fuori dalla Chiesa. Non possiamo vederli o incontrarli nella carne. Se esistessero, sarebbero conosciuti solo da Dio. Sto parlando nel senso di fisica, corpi in movimento, corpi stazionari, slancio, leggi di gravitazione di Newton, ecc.

Al livello della materia di Newton non ci sono corpi stazionari, esseri umani salvati fuori dalla Chiesa Cattolica con il battesimo del desiderio, l'ignoranza invincibile o il battesimo di sangue. Secondo le leggi della fisica, dello spazio, della massa, della luce, ecc., non possiamo vedere un non cattolico salvato al di fuori della Chiesa Cattolica.

POSSONO ESSERE DUE INTERPRETAZIONI DI CREDO NICENO E CREDO APOSTOLO . Come interpreta il Credo degli Apostoli durante la Santa Messa? Ci sono due opzioni, una razionale e l'altra irrazionale, una tradizionale e l'altra non tradizionale, una eretica e l'altra non eretica, una scismatica e l'altra non una rottura con il passato Magistero della Chiesa Cattolica. La maggior parte dei Cattolici sceglie la versione irrazionale che non è proibita da papi, cardinali e vescovi. 1. Dici in chiesa, alla Santa Messa, quando si prega il Credo, " Credo nello Spirito Santo, la santa Chiesa Cattolica, la comunione dei santi " vuoi dire che lo Spirito Santo guida la Chiesa oggi per insegnare che al di fuori della Chiesa Cattolica c'è la salvezza, la salvezza conosciuta, ci sono i non cattolici visibili salvati senza fede e il battesimo d'acqua e quindi non c'è comunione con i santi sul extra ecclesiam nulla salus, il Credo Atanasio ecc.?

O, 2. Dici in chiesa durante la messa: "Io credo nello Spirito Santo, la Santa Chiesa cattolica, la comunione dei santi" e quindi vuoi dire che lo Spirito Santo guida la Chiesa oggi per insegnare che fuori dalla Chiesa Cattolica non c'è salvezza conosciuta.Non ci sono non cattolici fisicamente visibili nel 2021 salvati senza la fede cattolica e il battesimo dell'acqua. E quindi c'è comunione con i santi: Francesco d'Assisi, Ignazio di Loyola, Francesco Saverio, Caterina da Siena, Massimiliano Kolbe ecc. - su extra ecclesiam nulla salus (senza eccezioni, come nel XVI secolo) il Credo Atanasio che dice che tutti devono essere Cattolici per la salvezza, il Catechismo di Papa Pio X (24Q, 27Q), il Sillabo degli Errori di Papa Pio IX (ecumenismo del ritorno), Quas Primas di Papa Pio XI sulla Proclamazione del Regno Sociale di Cristo Re in tutta la legislazione politica ecc.?

CI SONO DUE INTERPRETAZIONI DEL CREDO NICENO. QUAL È IL TUO ?

Professo un solo Battesimo per il perdono dei peccati.- Credo Niceno

1. C'è un battesimo per il perdono dei peccati. questo battesimo e solo il battesimo di acqua. È fisicamente visibile e ripetibile. O. 2. Ci sono più di tre battesimi per il perdono dei peccati, sono battesimi conosciuti, visibili personalmente. Sono il battesimo del desiderio, il battesimo di sangue e l'ignoranza invincibile. Escludono il battesimo dell'acqua nella Chiesa Cattolica e quindi sono eccezioni pratiche a Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) come spiegato nella Lettera del Sant'Uffizio (CDF) 1949 all'Arcivescovo di Boston. È stato citato anche nel Concilio Vaticano II (Lumen Gentium 16) COME RISPONDERESTE A QUESTE TRE DOMANDE? 1. Affermi il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) senza eccezioni? 2. Non ci sono casi fisicamente visibili del battesimo del desiderio e dell'ignoranza invincibile. Non possiamo vederli fisicamente. Sei d'accordo con me, non ci sono casi visibili nel 2021? 3. Se i papi, cardinali e vescovi interpretano documenti del Magistero con una falsa premessa per creare un errore oggettivo, si tratta comunque di una violazione del Principio di Non Contraddizione di Aristotele. Non ci sono esenzioni per grado o status. Sei d'accordo ?

ALTRE TRE DOMANDE PER RENDERE LE COSE PIÙ CHIARE 1) Conosciamo personalmente qualche persona morta ora in Paradiso salvata nell'ignoranza invincibile, una buona coscienza (LG 16) ecc., Possiamo vederla fisicamente, nel 2021? Sì o no. 2) Poiché non conosciamo nessuno di questi casi, nella vita reale non ci sono visibili, non sono note eccezioni all'interpretazione letterale del dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, o Ad Gentes 7 che afferma "tutto" bisogno 'fede e battesimo' per la salvezza? 3) Quindi Lumen Gentium 8, Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16, Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Nostra Aetate 2, Gaudium et Specs 22 ecc., sono eccezioni pratiche al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus? Si or No.-Lionel Andrades

ENGLISH TRANSLATION

MARCH 14, 2021

There are no physically visible non Catholics in 2021 who are saved outside the Church. We cannot see or meet them in the flesh. If they existed they would only be known to God. I am speaking in the sense of physics, moving bodies, stationary bodies, momentum, Newton's laws of gravitation etc.

 There  are no physically visible non Catholics in 2021 who are saved outside the Church. We cannot see or meet them in the flesh. If they existed they would only be known to God.

I am speaking in the sense of physics, moving bodies, stationary bodies, momentum, Newton's laws of gravitation etc.
At Newton's level of matter there are no stationary bodies, human beings saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire, invincible ignorance or the baptism of blood. According to the laws of physics, space, mass, light etc,  we cannot see a non Catholic saved outside the Catholic Church.

THERE CAN BE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE APOSTLES CREED AND THE NICENE CREED. 

How do you interpret the Apostles Creed at Holy Mass ?

There are two options, one rational and the other irrational, one traditional and the other non traditional, one heretical and the other non heretical, one schismatic and the other not a rupture with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church. Most Catholics choose the irrational version which is not prohibited by the popes, cardinals and bishops.

1. Do you say in church, at Holy Mass when the Creed is prayed, " I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" and mean that the Holy Spirit guides the Church today to teach that outside the Catholic Church there is salvation, known salvation, there are visible non Catholics saved without faith and the baptism of water and so there is no communion with the saints on extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed etc  ? 

Or,

2. Do you say in church at Mass , "I beleive in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" and then mean that the Holy Spirit guides the Church today to teach that outside the Church there is no known salvationthere are no physically visible non Catholics in 2021 saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and so there is  communion with the saints - Francis of Assisi, Ignatius of Loyola, Francis Xavier, Catherine of Siena, Maximillian Kolbe etc - on extra ecclesiam nulla salus( with no exceptions, like in the 16th century) the Athanasius Creed which says all need to be Catholic for salvation, the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return), Quas Primas o Pope Pius XI on the Proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation etc ?


THERE ARE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE NICENE CREED. WHICH ONE IS YOURS ?

We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins - Nicene Creed


1. There is one baptism for the forgiveness of sins, it is the baptism of water. It is physically visible and repeatable.

Or.

2.There are more than three baptisms for the forgiveness of sins, they are known baptismspersonally visible. They are the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance. They exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and so are practical exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as explained in the Letter of the Holy Office(CDF) 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston. It was referenced also in Vatican Council II(Lumen Gentium 16).


HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER THESE THREE QUESTIONS ?

 1. Do you affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with no exceptions ? Can I quote you ?


2.There are  no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance. We cannot see them physically. Do you agree with me, there are no visible cases in 2021? Can I quote you?

3.If the popes, cardinals and bishops are interpreting Magisterial documents with a false premise to create an objective error it still is a violation of Aristotle's Principle of Non Contradiction. There is no exemption for rank or status. Do you agree ?

THREE MORE QUESTIONS TO MAKE THINGS CLEARER

1) Do we personally know of any dead person now in Heaven saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc,can we physically see them, in 2021 ? Yes or No.


2) Since we do not know any of these cases, in real life, they are not visible to us, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, or Ad Gentes 7 which states 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation ?

3) So are LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc practical exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ?
-Lionel Andrades

The center right political parties in Europe should object to Pope Benedict's books being used at the pontifical universities in Rome, for the Ecclesiology semesters

 The books written by Pope Benedict  on Ecclesiology and Vatican Council II are based on the irrational and deceptive fake premise( the red passages) and so support secularism and not the Social Reign of Christ the King in world politics.They support secularism based upon the their not being exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. It is the false interpretation of Vatican Council II with the red passages

The center right political parties in Europe should object to Pope Benedict's books being used at the pontifical universities in Rome, for the Ecclesiology semesters. It is the same with Cardinals Kasper and Semeraro and Bishop' Bruno Forte.They must affirm the necessity Christ being the center of national politics and that outside the Chruch there is no salvation according to Vatican Council II, interpreted with the rational premise ( the blue passages ) - Lionel Andrades



BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion
So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.
Pope Pius XII and the Holy Office(CDF) made an objective mistake.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021
They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion
They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.
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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.
Pope Paul VI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, made an objective error.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise
 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-L.A
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APRIL 26, 2021

Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Catechism of the Catholic Church etc were all written with Cushingism and not Feeneyism.The red passages were used to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS and not the blue ones

 Pope Benedict wrote all his books on Vatican Council II, Ecclesiology etc not knowing about the rational premise, inference and conclusion.So the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1257) says all need the baptism of water for salvation but some do not.While CCC 846 says all need faith and baptism for salvation(AG 7) but some do not. It is implied that there are known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church without faith and baptism so CCC 846 states all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church.This would include non Catholics who are practical exceptions to Ad Gentes 7.

This is the confusion of Cushingism.

Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Catechism of the Catholic Church etc were all written with Cushingism and not Feeneyism.The red passages were used to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS and not the blue ones.. 


BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion
So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021
They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion
They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.
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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise
 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.

" I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" - Apostles Creed


Pope Francis and Pope Benedict 

1. Do you say in church, at Holy Mass when the Creed is prayed, " I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" and mean that the Holy Spirit guides the Church today to teach that outside the Catholic Church there is salvation, known salvation, there are visible non Catholics saved without faith and the baptism of water and so there is no communion with the saints on extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed etc  ? 

Or,

Lionel:

2. Do you say in church at Mass , "I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" and then mean that the Holy Spirit guides the Church today to teach that outside the Church there is no known salvationthere are no physically visible non Catholics in 2021 saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and so there is  communion with the saints - Francis of Assisi, Ignatius of Loyola, Francis Xavier, Catherine of Siena, Maximillian Kolbe etc - on extra ecclesiam nulla salus( with no exceptions, like in the 16th century) the Athanasius Creed which says all need to be Catholic for salvation, the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return), Quas Primas of Pope Pius XI on the Proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation etc ?


THERE ARE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE NICENE CREED. WHICH ONE IS YOURS ?

We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins - Nicene Creed

Lionel : 

1. There is one baptism for the forgiveness of sins, it is the baptism of water. It is physically visible and repeatable.

Or.

For Pope Francis and Pope Benedict  

2.There are more than three baptisms for the forgiveness of sins, they are known baptismspersonally visible. They are the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance. They exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and so are practical exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as explained in the Letter of the Holy Office(CDF) 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston. It was referenced also in Vatican Council II(Lumen Gentium 16).

When Pope Francis and Pope Benedict avoid the false premise, inference and conclusion their interpretation of the Creeds will be Magisterial and in harmony with the past Magisterium. There would be no hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition-Lionel Andrades


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 APRIL 14, 2021

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedict-are-not.html


 APRIL 19, 2021

The National Catechetical Office, Italy interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise, a false inference and a non traditional conclusion.This cannot be Magisterial.How could the Holy Spirit make such an objective mistake and not choose the rational option?

APRIL 14, 2021

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option. They are also not magisterial on the Nicene and Apostles Creed since they make the same mistake which can be avoided

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedict-are-not_14.html

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The National Catechetical Office, Italy is interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise, a false inference and a non traditional conclusion.This cannot be Magisterial.How could the Holy Spirit make such an objective mistake and not choose the rational option?

This is a human error.

The Catechetical Office, which Pope Francis visited in February this year, is in a rupture with the past Magisterium.So it  schismatic.The schism is created with a false premise.

Catholics in Italy are not obliged to follow a non magisterial interpretation of Vatican Council II, with a false premise instead of a rational option. -Lionel Andrades 

Fake premise

Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.

Rational Premise
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-Lionel Andrades


FEBRUARY 3, 2021



Pope Francis has called for interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise and inference to create an artificial rupture with Tradition and the traditional teaching on their being exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church : this is unethical.Even the secular and Church- judges in Italy are following this error.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/pope-francis-has-called-for.html

JANUARY 15, 2021

In the moto proprio Spiritus Domini of Pope Francis, Vatican Council II is cited, interpreted with the false premise and inference and so there is a fake rupture with Tradition. No one has pointed out this error

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/01/in-moto-proprio-spiritus-domini-of-pope.html

JANUARY 15, 2021

The 55 year old liberal-traditionalist division is finished since now we can affirm Vatican Council II and Tradition, without the false premise. This was not possible for Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.: The liberals cited Vatican Council II in papal documents like Spiritus Domini, to justify a break with Traditionhttps://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-55-year-old-liberal-traditionalist.html

 JANUARY 15, 2021

Pope Francis and the Italian government are promoting a Cushingite version of Vatican Council II so they cannot support Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus. With a false premise exceptions are created for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/01/pope-francis-and-italian-government-are.html

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 APRIL 14, 2021


Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedict-are-not.html


APRIL 15, 2021


Pope Francis and Pope Benedict's interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( CCC 846, 1257) are non magisterial since they use a false premise to interpret CCC 846 (Outside the Church No Salvation) and CCC 1257 ( The Necessity of Baptism ).They have a rational and traditional choice which they avoid
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedicts.html

 APRIL 15, 2021

Pope Francis keeps mentioning Vatican Council II but it's the non magisterial version of the Council

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-keeps-mentioning-vatican.html

 APRIL 11, 2021

Fr. Leonard Feeney, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Archbishop Pierre Thuc did not know that Vatican Council II could be interpreted without the false premise, inference and conclusion

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/for-fr-leonard-feeney-and-archbishop.html

APRIL 13, 2021

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican is not magisterial on Vatican Council II since he interprets the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational and traditional option, in harmony with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-prefect-of_13.html

APRIL 12, 2021



Repost : 'The red is not an exception to the blue' : new extraordinary understanding of Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/repost-red-is-not-exception-to-blue-new.html



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     With this rational model, the  Vatican  would not be contradicting the Athanasius Creed.

    ATHANASIUS CREED

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    'Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly...'
    With this rational model they  would also not be contradicting the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. 
     
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    III. INDIFFERENTISM, LATITUDINARIANISM
    15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true. — Allocution “Maxima quidem,” June 9, 1862; Damnatio “Multiplices inter,” June 10, 1851.
    16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation. — Encyclical “Qui pluribus,” Nov. 9, 1846.
    17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ. — Encyclical “Quanto conficiamur,” Aug. 10, 1863, etc.
    18. Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion, in which form it is given to please God equally as in the Catholic Church. — Encyclical “Noscitis,” Dec. 8, 1849.
    Now Vatican Council II interpreted with his  irrational premise, inference and conclusion contradicts the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. 
    With the rational model, Vatican Council II would not contradict the Catechism of Pope Pius X.
    -Lionel Andrades

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  • Lionel Andrades
    Catholic lay man in Rome,
    Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
    It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
    Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
    Blog: Eucharist and Mission
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