Thursday, March 24, 2022

#InDefenseOfOurChurch: Ein Statement für die Tradition : this young group of German Catholic traditionalists could check the error of Bishop Georg Batzing and the German Minsitry of Education

MARCH 24, 2022

If the young group of German traditionalists can get past the hurdle among the Lefebvrists, they could check the objective error made by Bishop Georg Batzing, Chairman of the German Bishops Conference

 

The German Education Ministry is teaching Vatican Council II with the Fake Premise instead of the Rational Premise. Those young Germans who produced that video could check it out. 

So if the young group of German traditionalists can get past the hurdle among the Lefebvrists, they could check the objective error made by Bishop Georg Batzing, Chairman of the German Bishops Conference. -Lionel Andrades


MARCH 22, 2022

The German Federal Ministry of Information and the Education Ministry must ask Bishop Georg Batzing to correct the error. The Vatican diplomat in Germany must do the same. Pope Francis and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria must correct the mistake. The Roman Catholic Federal Minister of Education in Germany must interpret Vatican Council II only with the Rational Premise.

 

Bishop Georg Batzing, Chairman of the German Bishops Conference can take, the German Church back to the original teachings of the Church.

1.     He must not use a Fake Premise to interpret Church Documents (Vatican Council II etc.

2.     He must interpret Church Documents (Vatican Council II, Creeds, Catechisms etc) with a Rational Premise. This is Catholic and it is being honest.

 I interpret Church Documents with the Rational Premise.So there are no practical exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius X, the Athanasius Creed and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), for me.

Now Vatican Council II is being interpreted with a Fake Premise by the German Bishops Conference and the German Synodal Way.

The Fake Premise is used by the German government, Lutheran, ecumenical and inter-faith organizations.

Bishop Georg Batzing uses the Fake Premise (invisible people are visible) instead of the Rational Premise (invisible people are invisible in 2022). He then chooses the False Inference ( invisible cases of non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church as referred to in LG 8, LG 14,LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are physically visible in 1965-2022). He does not choose the Rational Inference( invisible cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water, are always invisible for us in these present times)

So with the Fake Premise the non-traditional conclusion is outside the Church there is known salvation and there are exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors etc. This is not the orthodox, and traditional conclusion of outside the Church there is no known salvation, LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22, NA 2 etc refer to hypothetical and invisible cases only. So there are no practical exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors, the Creeds and Catechisms and the dogma EENS in the present times. There is no break with Tradition.

The German Federal Ministry of Information and the Education Ministry must ask Bishop Georg Batzing to correct the error. The Vatican diplomat in Germany must do the same. Pope Francis and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria must correct the mistake.

The Roman Catholic Federal Minister of Education in Germany must interpret Vatican Council II only with the Rational Premise.This is being ethical and Catholic.   -Lionel Andrades






MARCH 21, 2022

Bishop Georg Batzing, Chairman of the German Bishops Conference can no more interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise

 

                                                                                                                                                          -Lionel Andrades

MARCH 21, 2022

Bettina Stark-Watzinger is the Roman Catholic Federal Minister of Education in Germany : she could check the mistakes on Vatican Council II being taught at the schools, colleges and universities

 

                                                                                                                                              -Lionel Andrades

MARCH 16, 2022

The German Ministry of Education must interpret Vatican Council II rationally and ask the German Bishops Conference to do the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                      -Lionel Andrades





MARCH 13, 2022

The information the German Synodal Way gives out on Vatican Council II is not correct. They are presenting the Council with a lie in official heresy and schism which is approved by the present two popes : the German government and secular and Protestant organizations accept the fake interpretation of Vatican Council II in the area of public spending, educational scholarships, general employment and inter-faith meetings.

 

The information the German Synodal Way gives out on Vatican Council II is not correct. They are presenting the Council with a lie in official heresy and schism which is approved by the present two popes.

Heresy and schism were mortal sins for the Catholic Church in Germany before the 1940ìs. Now with the False Premise, creating a new fake theology there is no doctrinal unity in the Catholic Church on the First Commandment. ‘I am the Lord your God, thou shalt have no other God but me’. There is also no more unity on the Nicene Creed and the Athanasius Creed.

For the German Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX were made obsolete with the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II with a False Premise.

So the German Synodal Way does not affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since there are alleged  exceptions in Vatican Council II, when it is interpreted irrationally by the German cardinals and bishops.

This is also the irrational interpretation of German Head of States, Chancellors and Government offices.

Now the German government and German secular and Protestant organizations accept the German Catholic cardinals and bishops’ fake interpretation of Vatican Council II in the area of public spending, educational scholarships, general employment and inter-faith meetings.

-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 12, 2022


Is the German Synodal Way legal?
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/03/is-german-synodal-way-legal_12.html






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Lionel Andrades
Promoter of the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II.Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.
Catholic lay man in Rome,
Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission )
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 MARCH 20, 2022

Bishops will not correct me

 





The present two popes and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith agree with me.They agree with me when I say that they are all using a Fake Premise.They use the Fake Premise to interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( baptism of desire, invincible ignorance etc).I avoid their objective error.I choose to accept and interpret Vatican Council II with a Rational Premise.In interpret all Magisterial Documents with a Rational Premise while the popes and the CDF choose the False Premise.

Even the bishops in Rome over the years agree with me. This includes Cardinal Matteo Zuppi, Archbishop of Bologna and former Auxiliary bishop of Rome. He could not correct me.

Bishops cannot correct me since I am not putting forward a new theology. I am only correcting their irrational reasoning.It is responsible for their false New Theology.

Without the fake premise we return to the old theology of the Catholic Church. The liberalism is no more there.

I have been saying the same thing for years. I have been working on the same subject for years.I have e-mailed Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schneider and many priests.

I have pointed out their objective and factual error i.e., there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire (BOD), baptism of blood (BOB) and invincible ignorance (I.I).There are no known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, in 1949-2022.So when the popes and saints mention BOD, BOB and I.I over the centuries, they are always referring to hypothetical cases. This is something obvious.

LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II can only refer to hypothetical cases. They are not personally known people whom we can meet or see.

 So all the references to Vatican Council II are made with the False Premise,  by the German Ministry of Information, Education etc, ecumenical and inter-faith organizations in Germany and the German Catholic Bishops Conference.

Similarly the reports on Vatican Council II made by the European Catholic Bishops Conference have the common objective error.

















At the Press Conference to present the Letter “Placuit Deo” of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on certain aspects of Christian salvation ( 01.03.2018), Cardinal Luiz Ladaria and Archbishop Giacomo Morandi, interpreted Lumen Gentium 8 with the Fake Premise.This was when they were asked by an Associated Press correspondent if the Church still held that it had a superiority in salvation.


Bishop Robert Barron, George Weigel and Massimo Faggioli know what I am saying but keep quiet.

Similarly Cardinal Braz de Avez, Fr. Sabino Ardito sdb, and Fr. Gianfranco Ghirlanda sj, are not saying anything on this subject.

I have mentioned the other day, on this blog Eucharist and Mission, that if Pope Benedict chose to interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise, tomorrow the whole Church comes back to Tradition ( Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, EENS, Athanasius Creed, Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24 Q, 27 Q). Since there would not be any practical exception, mentioned in Vatican Council II, for the past ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.

So Vatican Council II according to Alberto Melloni, of the Bologna School (FSCIRE), and the Italian Government would become obsolete.

The teaching on Vatican Council II in Italian schools is presently false as is that on evolution and the Galileo case.

It is the same with the Boston Heresy case in the USA. It was Pope Pius XII, the CDF, Cardinal Richard Cushing, the Archbishop of Boston, and the Jesuits, who were in heresy, with the Fake Premise. Fr. Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center were not using the Fake Premise to interpret BOD, BOB and I.I.

With the Rational Premise ( invisible cases are invisible), Vatican Council II ( LG 8, LG 14,LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc) do not contradict the exclusivist theology of the Roman Missal ( 1580).So Pope Francis made  the common objective mistake in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, in Traditionis Custode.

-Lionel Andrades

https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2018/03/01/180301b.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/03/the-german-federal-ministry-of.html

If the young group of German traditionalists can get past the hurdle among the Lefebvrists, they could check the objective error made by Bishop Georg Batzing, Chairman of the German Bishops Conference

 

The German Education Ministry is teaching Vatican Council II with the Fake Premise instead of the Rational Premise. Those young Germans who produced that video could check it out. The same mistake is made by the Society of St. Pius X and those who participated in the ACIES ORDINATA gathering in Germany. 

https://www.lastampa.it/vatican-insider/it/2020/01/20/news/germania-un-gruppo-di-cattolici-manifesta-contro-il-sinodo-dei-vescovi-in-piazza-anche-l-ex-nunzio-vigano-1.38357789/

It is the same limitation of Coetus International in their statement on the Amazon Synod.

So if the young group of German traditionalists can get past the hurdle among the Lefebvrists, they could check the objective error made by Bishop Georg Batzing, Chairman of the German Bishops Conference. -Lionel Andrades


MARCH 24, 2022

Lefebvrists

 

 

 


Lefebvrists are a specific group in the Catholic Church. They go back to Tradition and accept it while they correctly reject Vatican Council II interpreted with a Fake Premise.

However they do not know about Vatican Council II interpreted with a Rational Premise and so do not affirm it.

They also interpret the baptism of desire as being saved in invincible ignorance with the same false premise. So they reject the traditional, exclusivist interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The liberals do the same.

So with the False Premise, Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops negated the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Athanasius Creed. They created practical exceptions where exceptions did not exist.-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 23, 2022

Young Catholics from a German traditional congregation allow the liberals in Germany to interpret Vatican Council II with the False and not Rational Premise

 


Here are young Catholics from a German traditional congregation that is allowing the liberals to interpret Vatican Council II with the False and not Rational Premise.They seem like typical Lefebvrists.

When the traditionalists are accused of being schismatic, heretical and sectarian for rejecting Vatican Council II, they keep quiet on this point .Instead they should say :

1)     That no good Catholic should accept Vatican Council II, interpreted irrationally.

2)     While every good Catholic should accept Vatican Council II interpreted rationally.

3)     It is the liberals and the Masons who are heretical and schismatic when they choose to interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise and the not the Rational Premise.  

-Lionel Andrades



 MARCH 22, 2022

Young Catholics Respond to Modernist Church in Germany

 Young Catholics Respond to Modernist Church in Germany


Young traditional Catholics respond with a video to those in the Church who "can no longer endure sound teaching".

The homosexualization of the Church is part of the vociferous agenda of the pink purple ideologues who have seized control of the church in Germany.  Sin crying out to heaven is to be raised to the altars.  The coming out of 125 employees and dignitaries of the Catholic Church a few weeks ago shows where the journey with the synodal path should go.  A group of traditional young Catholics from Certamen Germany have created a video in response to this outing.  They write about it:

 "In times of crisis, sacred tradition remains the infallible rule of faith, the criterion for distinguishing the Catholic from the non-Catholic" (Roberto de Mattei).  Many Catholics, especially the German bishops and most of their clergy, seem to have forgotten this healthy rule.  Instead of renewing the Church from within through its tradition, they escalate their reform intentions into ever more absurd fantasies, which ultimately only result in one thing: the apostasy from the Catholic faith and thus the destruction of the Catholic Church.

We traditional Catholics want to counter this doomed reform attitude, which seems to find its climax on the synodal path in Germany:

 - We do not want any other Church than that founded by our Lord Jesus Christ.

 - We want priests who are aware of the dignity of their ordination and of their associated mission.

 - We love the old Mass because it focuses on God and not on people.

 - We want to convert the world to the Catholic faith and not adapt the Catholic Church to the world.

 - We rely on what the great holy Pope Pius X was once convinced of: "The true friends of the people are neither reformers nor innovators, but the traditionalists."

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
Bild: Certamen/Youtube (Screenshots)

Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com

AMDG

https://www.theeponymousflower.com/2022/03/young-Lionel Andrades

Promoter of the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II.Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.
Catholic lay man in Rome,
Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission )

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/search?q=Vatican+Council+II+is+dogmatic

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