There is no denial from Cardinal Manuel Victor Fernandez and the
journalists in Rome. They agree with me. For them too LG 8, 14, 15, 1,6UR 3, NA
2, GS 22 etc, in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical cases. They
refer to physically invisible people in 2024.This is a given. It is common
sense.
So it means their concept of Vatican Council II has changed. The Council
has continuity with Tradition. Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for
salvation and LG 8, 14, 1, 5, 1, 6, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, are not exceptions.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church 845,846 says outside the Church there is
no salvation. There are no exceptions in Vatican Council II for CCC 845, 845.
This Magisterial and rational interpretation was reluctantly accepted by Cardinal Sean
O’Malley and Cardinal Blaise Cupich at a meeting in Chicago some time back. It
was organized by Michael Sean Winters and the key speaker was Massimo Faggioli, who could not offer any solution.
The L.A interpretation of Vatican Council II was an issue. Some of the
questions on some of the minds could be. ‘How can the liberals now be in schism
according to Vatican Council?’
These cardinals now helplessly imply that extra ecclesiam nulla salus
today is the same as it was for the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th
century. The Church has returned to the old ecclesiology of the Roman Missal
and there is no other choice when LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc,
refer to only speculative and theoretical cases, which exist only in our mind.
So they imply that other religions are not paths to salvation (CDF,
Dupuis, 2001) and their members need faith and baptism (AG 7, LG 14) for
salvation from the fires of Hell. In Heaven there are only Catholics (CCC
845-845) and being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are
not practical exceptions (CCC 847-848) .The Catechisms do not contradict
themselves any more.
The cardinals and the Vatican
Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith have not denied that LG 8,14,15,16,UR
3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2024.We have a
unanimous agreement on this point. Church and State (Ministries of Education
etc) are in accord on this point too.
Cardinal Fernandez, the Prefect of the DDF, is saying that according to
Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms, Judaism and Islamism
are not paths to salvation (Catechism of Pope Pius X etc). There are no
exceptions, I repeat mentioned in Vatican Council II. Since invisible people
are not objective examples of salvation in the present times. We cannot meet or
see someone saved outside the Church.
So Islamism is not a path to salvation according to Cardinal Fernandez, though we would want to maintain good relations, as the Gospel teaches. This is the official teaching of the Church before and after Vatican Council II. It is the same for Hinduism, Buddhism and the Christian denominations. There are have good and holy things ( NA 2) in other relgions and there could be people in other Christian denominations who are in imperfect communion with the Church ( UR 3) and so theoretically, God has not restricted them from salvation. However these are hypothetical cases always for u. Salvation in these religions could only be known to God. A non Catholic on earth who is in Heaven would be a Catholic there.
God would send a preacher to even baptize the man in the forest who is to be saved (St. Thomas Aquinas.In potential, salvation is open for all, but in reality, practically, all need to enter the Catholic Church for salvation, the Church is necessary for salvation ( Dominus Iesus, Pope John Paul II).
In poo- Lionel Andrades
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JANUARY 13, 2024
Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez agrees with me. He is on my side.Even journalists at the Catholic News Service, Catholic News Agency, National Catholic Reporter, Commonweal and Reuters support him. For them too LG 8,14,1,5,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to physically invisible cases
I mentioned in a previous blog post yesterday that everyone agrees with me. There are no practical exceptions for the dogma EENS in our human reality and there are none mentioned in Vatican Council II.
For Fernandez, Prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, there is no theological basis for the Synod's liberalism, found in the Council-text.
The Dicastery has to interpret the Council only rationally and the conclusion is traditional and orthodox. The old view of looking at Vatican Council II has ended. The Council has another image. It supports the past ecclesiocentrism, the ecclesiology of the old Roman Missal.
This may not be politically correct for Fernandez and the liberal-left journalists. But they do not have a choice. They cannot continue to pretend that invisible cases of LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc are visible in our human reality and are examples of known salvation outside the Church in 1965-2024.
Pope Pius XII made an error in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston when he assumed that invisible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are visible exceptions for Feeneyite EENS.This mistake was repeated in 1965 by Pope Paul VI. He confused invisible cases as being visible exceptions for Tradition and concluded that the dogma EENS was obsolete.
-Lionel Andrades
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