Can a pope who says he will not accept BOD, BOB and I.I as being
exceptions to EENS and he will not accept Vatican Council II as not
being a rupture with the past ecclesiology - still be a pope ?
Can a pope who says he will not accept BOD, BOB and I.I as being
exceptions to EENS and he will not accept Vatican Council II as not
being a rupture with the past ecclesiology - still be a pope ? This is the sensational question the sedevacantists will not answer and are all at sea.
The sedes and trads like the liberals have always assumed that the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance (I.I) referred to exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and so they really were explicit and objective non Catholics saved outside the Church. Fr. Feeney was wrong and Pope Pius XII was correct.
But what if BOD, BOB and I.I refer to only invisible and hypothetical ?
Then Fr. Feeney was correct and Pope Pius XII and Archbishop Lefebvre were wrong.
It means hypothetical cases can obviously not be practical exceptions to the dogma EENS in 2018.We cannot name or see someone saved outside the Church. So the popes made a mistake here.
But it gets worse for them.
If hypotheticals are not exceptions to the centuries old interpretation of EENS then Vatican Council II , LG 8 etc, does not contradict Feeneyite EENS.
Whoops! This is big trouble.
It means the Council does not contradict the past ecclesiology of the Church and an ecumenism of return.It is back to no salvation outside the Church for the popes, cardinals and bishops.
This is a rational interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS but how can they use it, how can they say, they may ask themselves, that all Jews and Muslism in 2018 are oriented to Hell unless they enter the Catholic Church with faith and baptism(AG 7, LG 14) ? LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not exceptions.
So it means all Protantants, Pentecostals and Orthodox Christians are are on the way to Hell since outside the Church there is no salvation and they do not have Catholic faith with the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
This is a rational and traditional interpretation of de fide teaches of the Church, including those in the Creeds.
The German bishops will rebel.
Will one pope say there are no known exceptions in Vatican Councl II to EENS and the other pope say that this is un-acceptable ?
Will the CDF and the SSPX admit they made a mistake on Catholic doctrine, over the last 50 and more years?
Will some cardinals affirm Vatican Council II in harmony with the strict interpretation of EENS and say that not to do so would violate the Principle of Non Contradiction.
Can a pope or cardinal who rejects this teaching be accused of being in heresy and so not eligibile to be pope ?
Who is going to say that according to Vatican Council II and EENS all non Catholics are oriented to Hell and so Mohammad was lost as are all Muslims today ? This is how I interpret the Council and EENS.
But Cardinal Koch,Cardinal Kasper and Pope Benedict believe all Jews do not need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation.They can no more cite Vatican Council II.
But Cardinal Koch,Cardinal Kasper and Pope Benedict believe all Jews do not need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation.They can no more cite Vatican Council II.
So can a pope who says he will not accept BOD, BOB and I.I as being
in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and not an exception, be a pope ? If he rejects Vatican Council II as being a continuity with the traditional interpretation of EENS and an ecumenism of return - can he still be a pope ?
-Lionel Andrades
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