Tuesday, July 23, 2019
If Vatican Council II is interpreted with Feeneyism then we go back to the old ecclesiology.Mission motivation would be traditional .It would be the same at all rites. Even at the Novus Ordo Mass the priest would affirm the old ecclesiology and evangelisation.We would be back to the Ancient Mass, which would not be restricted to Latin.It would include Mass in the vernacular and the Greek Mass which preceded the one in Latin.
JULY 18, 2019
The Ancient Mass is not is as it was.
The priest faces ad orientem but he will not say that all non Catholics need to enter the Church to avoid Hell and there are no known exceptions. There are no exceptions.Even when they are informed the priests will not proclaim this ancient teaching of the Catholic Church. This is a major rupture with the theology of the Mass for the missionaries in the 16th century.
There are other differences too.
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But the second major part of the book (pp. 169–297) is a truly powerful and extraordinarily important contribution to liturgical literature: “The Ancient Mass and Evangelization.” The first portion of that section deals with what might be called “internal evangelization” – how things like the Eucharistic fast and Holy Days of Obligation reinforce the Faith among the faithful in a world that constantly denies it. The second is devoted to the utility of the “old Mass” as a means of external evangelization – or to be clear, drawing souls to Christ. This is handled both in a general way, against the backdrop of modern culture, and as regards bringing the Gospel to specific groups: children and youths, New Agers, Chinese, Africans, Jews, Muslims, etc. – all of whom have immortal souls that Christ died to redeem and bring to Himself for eternity. Again – simple home truths that we are often too sophisticated to remember.
The Ancient Mass does not exist any more since the ecclesiology and theology is new.The Novus Ordo and Latin Mass is offered today with the New Theology and New Ecclesiology.There is a new,limited evangelisation.
The theology and doctrines are new.So Pope Francis encourages the Latin Mass all over the world.The Mass today is Cushingite. In the past it was Feeneyite.
The ecclesiology has been changed with Cushingism,There is a new evangelisation, with other Christians.It is no more believed that they are all Hell-oriented.So why does this book cite the Old Mass with its Old Theology and Ecclesiology, which does not exist any more ?.How can it be a model for evangelisation when Cushingism replaces Feeneyism at different level?
Joseph Shaw who has edited the book is a liberal.He teaches at leftist Oxford.He promotes the Latin Mass as if the ecclesiology is the same as in the past.He interprets Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition when it really is not.He will not say in public that all non Catholics need to enter the Catholic Church to avoid Hell.There are no exceptions.
He does not say that Vatican Council II indicates most people are oriented to Hell since they die without faith and baptism (AG 7,LG 14).His priority is his personal interests. He does not say that when we meet non Catholics we know they are oriented to Hell, since they do not have faith and baptism, which is needed for salvation(AG 7).This would be politically incorrect at any Rite, for him.
This was the traditional motivation for mission in the past which he ignores.
If Vatican Council II is interpreted with Feeneyism then we go back to the old ecclesiology.Mission motivation would be traditional .It would be the same at all rites. Even at the Novus Ordo Mass the priest would affirm the old ecclesiology and evangelisation.We would be back to the Ancient Mass, which would not be restricted to Latin.It would include Mass in the vernacular and the Greek Mass which preceded the one in Latin.-Lionel Andrades
http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2019/07/the-case-for-liturgical-restoration.html#.XTcAWo4zbcd
Archbishop Lefebvre too interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism.So the faith was lost.
Why Catholics started leaving the Church in droves after Vatican II by Joseph Shaw does not consider the spiritual aspect of the exodus.The pope was no more saying that every one needed to enter and remain in the Catholic Church to avoid Hell and that this was the teaching of Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite). Instead Pope Paul VI was saying that this was not the teaching of Vatican Council II ( interpreted with Cushingism).Mixed marriages were not mortal sins of adultery any more. There was no more any traditional mission since there was alleged known salvation outside the Church.Protestants could be saved in their religion as anonymous Christians.This was the false interpretation of Vatican Council II also by the cardinals, bishops and priests.The religion had been changed.Even the Lefebvrists did not say that Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) supports the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), the past ecclesiology , an ecumenism of return and the Syllabus of Errors. So there could still be the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King and the non separation of Church and State.
Archbishop Lefebvre too interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism.So the faith was lost.
Try and picture the reaction of the laity today (2019) if some cardinals and bishops would say outside the Church there is no salvation according to Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) and all non Catholics are oriented to Hell unless they enter the Church with faith and the baptism of water.It would be electric.-Lionel Andrades
No one teaches in catechesis that all need to enter the Catholic Church to avoid Hell and this is the teaching of the Church Fathers and Vatican Council II
Survey reveals why Catholics leave Church, including because of watered down teaching by Joseph Shaw does not mention that no one including Shaw is able to say today, in catechesis, that every one needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation. The Church no more says that all need to enter the Catholic Church to avoid Hell and this is the teaching of the Church Fathers and Vatican Council II.-Lionel Andrades
Survey reveals why Catholics leave Church, including because of watered down teaching
Gloria TV's editorial staff like that of LifeSites News interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism.
If they interpreted Vatican Council II with Feeneyism, there could be a Restoration in the Catholic Church.It would be opposed by the Left.
But to avoid persecution Gloria TV like LifeSiteNews interprets Vatican Council II and all magisterial documents with Cushingism.
Similarly if the Society of St. Pius X switches to Feeneyism in the interpretation of Vatican Council II they will be targeted with Anti Semitic charges. Attempts will be made to close them down.
But their faith will become vibrant and they will not be supporting mortal sins of faith.
John Henry Weston has asked lay Catholics to be brave but he is not brave enough to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism.
Roberto dei Mattei speaks about a crisis in the Church but for personal reasons; personal interest, he will not affirm Vatican Council II with Feeneyism.
He and Christopher Ferrara over the last 50 years misled Catholics about Vatican Council II.It was in ignorance and of course there was no malafide intention.But even now after being informed they keep silent about the error.They keept silent over Gloria TV and Life SitesNews editorial policy which is not Catholic.
-Lionel Andrades
Faith is dead at CMTV?
In a sense the faith is dead at the Church Militant studios in Ferndale, Michigan.Of course they pray and sing hymns and are regular at Sunday Holy Mass.But they interpret Magisterial documents with heretical Cushingism and so there is no persecution.
There could be a Restoration when CMTV interprets Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism.But their existence in its present form could be threathened.
They could be accused of being racist, bigoted etc.
So they comply with the Left and accept Cushingite theology which is the basis for widespread heresy, in the Catholic Church, from the Creeds to the Catechisms.
Since they do not affirm Feeneyite EENS they maintain their apostolate in its present form.
There is no Restoration or Reform in the Catholic Church since the CMTV Staff do not want to pay the personal price.The support mortal sins of faith and say their daily prayers at their Fulton Sheen studios.
With Cushingism there is schism with the past popes on EENS.
With Cushingism Vatican Council II is interpreted heretically as a rupture with EENS and the Athanasius Creed etc.
With Cushingism the Catehism of Pope Pius X contradicts itself. It supports the strict interpretation of EENS and also mentions invincible ignorance.Invincible ignorance is an exception to EENS for the CMTV Staff.
-Lionel Andrades
With Cushingism there is schism with the past popes on EENS.
With Cushingism Vatican Council II is interpreted heretically as a rupture with EENS and the Athanasius Creed etc.
With Cushingism the Catehism of Pope Pius X contradicts itself. It supports the strict interpretation of EENS and also mentions invincible ignorance.Invincible ignorance is an exception to EENS for the CMTV Staff.
-Lionel Andrades
SSPX could be excommunicated for not accepting a Cushingite Vatican Council II
I interpret Vatican Council II and other magisterial
documents with Feeneyite reasoning and the present popes, and those
since the time of Paul VI, along with the Congregation for the Doctrine
of the Faith(CDF) use Cushingite philosophy.
So there conclusion has a hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition and mine has a continuity.
Their
theology is Cushingite and so they say outside the Church there is
known salvation.My theology is traditional and Feeneyite .Outside the
Church there is no personally known salvation for me.
The Society
of St. Pius X (SSPX) needs to discuss this confusion and bring it to the
attention of the CDF.Otherwise the Cushingite 'magisterium' could
excommunicate them for not accepting the Cushingite interpretation of
Vatican Council II.
The Secretaries of the CDF, Morandi and Di
Noia, know they are irrational, non traditional and heretical with
Cushingism.They are not going to correct themselves.The SSPX is
interpreting magisterial documents with Cushingism and their members act as if they do
not have a clue. So by default they will allow themselves to be
excommunicated for the wrong reason.
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the traditionalists of his time interpreted EENS and Vatican Council II with Cushingism.So today there is no opposition to the error of the 'magisterium'.
The SSPX priests at Albano, Italy cannot issue a statement on this subject. They need the permission of thier headquarters at Econe.
The popes since Paul VI were Cushingite. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger did not tell Archbishop Lefebvre that Vatican Council II could be interpreted with Feeneyism and there would be no rupture with Tradition.Instead he excommunicated him.
-Lionel Andrades
Michael Voris and Brother Andre Marie say they are faithful to the 'magisterium' of the Church which is Cushingite
Michael Voris and Church Militant TV Staff say they are faithful to the Magisterium but the present 'magisterium' interprets Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with Cushingism.They also interpret the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance with Cushingism.So there is a rupture with the Creeds and Catechisms.
Cushingism is irrational and so the conclusion is a rupture with Tradition.The result is heresy.
Similarly Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA has posted the community's Doctrinal Statement on their website Catholicism.org .They indicate that they are faithful to the Magisterium of the Church.Perhaps they mean the past Magisterium.
The present 'magisterium', since Pope Paul VI , is Cushingite on EENS and Vatican Council II.
The present two popes and the CDF interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism, to create a rupture with the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors and past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.
This cannot be the work and teaching of the Holy Spirit.It is human error and it cannot be magisterial.
Yet the CMTV and the SBC say they are faithful to the teachings of the Magisterium.
-Lionel Andrades
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