Saturday, November 27, 2021

Christopher White at the National Catholic Reporter is not reporting that Fr. Georges de Laire Judicial Vicar in the Diocese of Manchester, USA interprets the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance with the False Premise otherwise he would be affirming the same interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as the missionaries in the 16th century.

Christopher White at the National Catholic Reporter is not reporting that Fr. Georges de Laire  Judicial Vicar in the Diocese of Manchester, USA interprets  the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance with the False Premise otherwise he would be affirming the same interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as the missionaries in the 16th century. It is only because White and the NCR use the False Premise and not the Rational Premise that they are not Feeneyite.

Similarly if Vatican Council II was interpreted with the Rational Premise there would be no  ‘reforms of Vatican Council II ‘.  

If Christopher White interpreted Vatican Council II and EENS with the Rational Premise he would have the same theological position on other religions as Michael Voris and Brother Andre Marie MICM.

NO MORTAL SINS OF FAITH BECAUSE OF THE FALSE PREMISE

Now the NCR and the Curia in the Diocese of Manchester would not speak about mortal sins of faith because of the rupture with Tradition created by Vatican Council II interpreted only with the False Premise. There no more are mortal sins of faith for the Diocese of Manchester or the NCR since with Vatican Council II interpreted with the False Premise there are alleged exceptions for the Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors etc. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc are practical exceptions for extra ecclesiam nulla salus for the liberals, Lefebvrists, Thuc and others too.

So rejecting the Athanasius Creed and changing the understanding of the Nicene Creed is not a mortal sin of faith for them. It comes with ‘the reforms of Vatican Council II’ interpreted irrationally. This is official but it cannot be Magisterial.

When Massimo Faggioli, John Allen Jr, and other contributors/ correspondents for the National Catholic Reporter do not affirm the Athanasius Creed, and the Nicene Creed and Syllabus of Errors, rationally, then it is schism and heresy. Since now they can no more say that there are practical exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.


So the journalist Phil Lawler, or any Catholic  in New Hampshire could demand that Bishop Libasci interpret Vatican Council II, EENS and other Catholic Magisterial Documents  without the False Premise and ask all religious communities in the diocese to do the same.

How can the Paulist Fathers in Rome or the Diocese of Manchester reject the Athanasius Creed and re-interpret Vatican Council II and EENS irrationally? This is public schism with the past Magisterium, which was guided by the Holy Spirit.

In Rome, how can Cardinal Angelo Donatis, Vicar General, do the same and prohibit the Latin Mass for the Easter Triduum? The Novus Ordo Mass has the same ecclesiology as the Traditional Latin Mass when Vatican Council II and EENS are interpreted rationally.

Bishop Athanasius Schneider has said that there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire. He agrees with Dr. Taylor Marshall who clarified that there are no explicit cases of St.Thomas Aquinas’s implicit baptism of desire. So this Good Friday if Bishop Athanasius Schneider is in Rome, he will offer the Mass in Latin or Italian, with Vatican Council II and EENS interpreted rationally.


So why is Pope Benedict allowed to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with the common False Premise at Holy Mass in the vernacular? 

This is schism. It is the False Premise which 

creates schism and heresy even when it used by 

conservative Catholics.

-Lionel Andrades



NOVEMBER 27, 2021

If the National Catolic Reporter did not use the Fake Premise to interpret Church Documents Christopher White would be affirming the same strict interpretation of EENS as the St.Benedict Center, Richmond, New Hampshire

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/11/christopher-white-in-his-report-at.html


















MISSING LINK DISCOVERED : WHAT CAUSES THE HERMENEUTIC OF RUPTURE

The fault is not there with Vatican Council II but his assuming that salvation in Heaven is visible on earth to be exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Avoid the premise and the conclusion is traditional.This is the missing link in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
If a pope uses the irrational premise and comes to an irrational conclusion it still is an objective error, even if he is the pope.
To reiterate:
what premise ?
The irrational premise is "The dead are visible to us on earth".
what conclusion ?
The conclusion is since the dead are visible to us on earth those who are saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance are explicit ( visible in the flesh) exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
what theology,
So the post -1949 theology says every one needs to enter the Catholic Church except for those in invincible ignorance or with the baptism of desire.
Defacto there are known exceptions to the interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston.
what Tradition.
Pre- 1949 Catholic Tradition, on salvation ( soteriology) says there is exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. Extra ecclesiam nulla salus ,defined by three Church Councils does not mention any exception. The text also does not mention the baptism of desire or being saved in invincible ignorance.I am referring to Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441.
Also Mystici Corporis and the Council of Trent mention implicit desire etc but do not state that these cases are known to us, to be exceptions to the dogma .Neither do they state that there are exceptions to the dogma.  


We have a choice with Vatican Council II

 

                                                                                                                    -Lionel Andrades

All the Religious Communities in Italy can affirm the strict interpretation of EENS when they use the Rational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II

 

                                                                                                        -Lionel Andrades

All the Religious Communities and Lay Catholics in the Archdiocese of Boston and the Catholic diocese of Manchester, USA can affirm EENS according to the St. Benedict Center when they avoid the False Premise



 

                                                                                                                  -Lionel Andrades

The John Lateran University Rome offers Academic Degrees in Theology based upon the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II with a False Premise

 

                                                                                                                                                                                              -Lionel Andrades





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https://www.pul.it/it/s-teologia-istituto-pastorale-redemptor-hominis/


Young people in France should ask the Nuncio and the Bishops why don't they interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with the Rational Premise

 

                                                                                                                  -Lionel Andrades

Coetus Patrem International and Ecclesia Communities need to upday their theology

                                                                                                                                                                                     -Lionel Andrades

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If the National Catolic Reporter did not use the Fake Premise to interpret Church Documents Christopher White would be affirming the same strict interpretation of EENS as the St.Benedict Center, Richmond, New Hampshire

Christopher White  in his report at the National Catholic Reporter on the case filed by Fr. Georges de Laire against Michael Voris after the latter visited the St.Benedict Center(SBC), Richmond, New Hampshire, has projected the SBC as being in dissent and schism since they do not use the Fake Premise like Bishop Peter Libasci, Fr.de Laire and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, to interpret Catholic Magisterial Documents (VC2, EENS etc) and so reject the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) .

If the NCR did not use the Fake Premise to interpret Church Documents Christopher White would be affirming the same strict interpretation of EENS as the SBC.He would also be endorsing Vatican Council II like the SBC. This was not mentioned in his report.

In the Catholic diocese of Manchester, USA, Bishop Peter Libasci and his Curia agree that  officially they use the Fake Premise at First Communion classes, Adult religious formation(RCIA) and religion classes in the diocese schools. Every one has to use the fake premise. In this way there emerges a politically break with the past Magisterium. This is not reported by the NCR and the Union Leader, New Hampshire.


Damien and Simcha Fischer in their media refer to the SBC as 'ultra traditionalists' and 'schismatics'. This is false and it is clarified in the public statement of Doctrinal Beliefs on the SBC website Catholicism.org .

The SBC only reject Vatican Council II interpreted with the Fake Premise. They do not reject Vatican Council II interpreted with the Rational Premise. The rational premise has a  hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. This was not reported  by Christopher White in the NCR report.

It is Simcha and Damien Fischer ( Union Leader, New Hampshire) and Christopher White and Heidi Schlumpf (NCR) and Bishop Peter Libasci and his Curia, who are in dissent. The Left wants dissent in the Catholic Church with the Fake Premise.

Now in the case with Michael Voris in New Hampshire, Christopher Whiter expects the judge to repeat the same strict irrationality i.e invisible people are visible, invisible cases of being saved with the baptism of desire (LG 14) are physically visible in 2021. So then it would appear as if the SBC and Michael Voris are in dissent. When really it is NCR who will not affirm the strict interpretation of EENS and the rational interpretation of Vatican Council II.

NOTICE FOR ALL RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES 

Fr. Georges de Laire himself must clarify before the judge that there are no specific cases of physically visible cases of people saved with the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood (BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) and without the baptism of water in his imagination.He will also not expect the Paulist Fathers and the Carmelites, in the diocese, for example, to say that there are visible exceptions for EENS.So he would ask all the religious communities in the diocese of Manchester, USA to affirm the strict interpretation of EENS like the SBC.

The judge must be asked to tell Fr. Georges de Laire to no more coerce religious communities with a Decree of Prohibitions based upon their accepting the Fake Premise. He must announce that it is no longer obligatory in New Hampshire for Catholics to use the Fake Premise.

Since all the religious communities agree that there are no objective exceptions for EENS in New Hampshire they can all endorse the same strict interpretation of EENS as the SBC. The CDF Secretaries, Archbishops Morandi and Di Noia, also agree that there are no objective exceptions for the traditional interpretation of EENS by Brother Andre Marie MICM and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This is not mentioned in the NCR report.- Lionel Andrades






-Lionel Andrades

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DECEMBER 17, 2020
The blogger Tancred at The Eponymous Flower interprets Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with the false premise. The Five Points expose the error
DECEMBER 14, 2020
Five points that change our interpretation of Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents
 DECEMBER 17, 2020
According to Archbishop Thomas Gullickson there are no cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance in our reality and so they are not objective exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The Amercian Archbishop is not using the false premise
 DECEMBER 17, 2020
According to Fr. Stefano Visintin osb, the former Rector and Dean of Theology at the University of St. Anselm, Rome, and present Abbot of the Benedictine Monastery of Praglia, Padua, Italy, the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are not exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to St. Benedict
DECEMBER 17, 2020
According to John Martignoni, Catholic apologist at EWTN, the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance, are 'zero cases'. So they cannot be exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) 
 DECEMBER 17, 2020
Pope Benedict would know that there is no 'development of doctrine with Vatican Council II' if the false premise is not used. But he is going along with it
DECEMBER 16, 2020
With these Five Points the religious formation of Franciscans, Dominicans, Jesuits, Carmelites, Salesians and other communities change 
 DECEMBER 16, 2020
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican needs to inform Cardinal Braz de Avez and the religious communities that there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II - with and without the false premise,and they should choose the rational option
DECEMBER 16, 2020
The Dominicans and Benedictines at Oxford University need to stop churning out theologies created with Pope Benedict's false New Theology and fake premise
 DECEMBER 16, 2020
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith must clarify the Five Points for young people with a vocation to the religous life and for Vocation Directors and Novice Masters
DECEMBER 16, 2020
The SSPX can now ask Pope Francis to affirm Vatican Council II just as he had asked it of them, for canonical recognition.With the Five Points ask him to affirm the Council with the hermeneutic of continuity with EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages
DECEMBER 16, 2020
Jesuit Pope Francis needs to end the slander of the Jesuit from Boston. Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct and Boston College, the Jesuit Provincial in the USA and Cardinal Richard Cushing made an objective error- supported by Pope Pius XII and his cardinals 
DECEMBER 16, 2020
The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, at the St.Benedict Centers in New England, USA must not be forced by Cardinal Sean O'Malley, Archbishop of Boston and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, to re-interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with a false premise.
 DECEMBER 16, 2020
Pope Benedict has said that Europe must remember its Christian roots but Europe's Christian roots were Catholic. Peter Seewalds new biography shows that Pope Benedict lost his Catholic Faith and the Catholic theological roots
DECEMBER 16, 2020
Peter Seewalds new biography indicates Pope Benedict used a false premise to reject Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), change the Nicene Creed, reject the Athanasius Creed, reject the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, reject the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q) and irrationally reinterpret the Council of Trent and Vatican Council II.So in general the Deposit of the Faith is rejected.De fide teachings which are obligatory to believe in are put aside
DECEMBER 13, 2020
If the Lefebvrists continue to interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise, and not without it, the Council will continue to be a break with Tradition and this will not be the fault of Pope Benedict
DECEMBER 15, 2020
Peter Seewald missed out the most important point. Cardinal Ratzinger used a false premise to create a new Theology

October 11, 2020 
LifeSiteNews ) – A new authoritative biography of Pope Benedict XVI written by Peter Seewald describes in detail the important role then-Professor Joseph Ratzinger played before and during the Second Vatican Council. His influence helped to bring about a revolutionary change of the Council's direction, tone, and topics.- Maike Hickson, New biography describes great influence of Joseph Ratzinger in the revolutionary upheaval of Vatican II
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/new-biography-describes-great-influence-of-joseph-ratzinger-in-the-revolutionary-upheaval-of-vatican-ii
With the knowledge of these FIVE POINTS 1 we can undo Cardinal Ratzinger's influence at Vatican Council II, and also when he did not choose to interpret the Council after 1965, in continuity with Tradition. -Lionel Andrades
Five ve points that change our interpretation of Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/five-points-that-change-our.html
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/peter-seewald-missed-out-most-important.html
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DECEMBER 14, 2020
With the knowledge of these FIVE POINTS we can undo Cardinal Ratzinger's influence at Vatican Council II and when he did not choose to interpret the Council after 1965, in continuity with Tradition https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/with-knowledge-of-these-five-points-we.html
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DECEMBER 16, 2020



Religious formation in the Catholic Church has changed with these Five Points https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/religious-formation-in-catholic-church.html
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