Since Vatican Council II is Feeneyite for me it does not make a difference if I go for Sunday Mass in Italian at 10.20 a.m and the Latin Mass at 11.30 a.m, the theology and ecclesiology of the Church does not change.There is no Latin-Novus problem for me. There is no division for me between liberals and traditionalists, based upon the Mass.Those Catholics who can only interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism would see a traditionalist-liberal division based upon the Mass.Pope Francis too would make the rigid-non rigid distinction.
Since Vatican Council II is Feeneyite for me it is in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century when they offered the Tridentine Rite Mass.
Since the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are Feeneyite for me i.e they are invisible and not visible cases in the present times, they do not contradict EENS ( Feeneyite).So I do not have to reject BOD, BOB and I.I and neither EENS( Feeneyite).So there is no traditionalist-liberal distinction for me.
Since the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are Feeneyite for me i.e they are invisible and not visible cases in the present times, they do not contradict EENS ( Feeneyite).So I do not have to reject BOD, BOB and I.I and neither EENS( Feeneyite).So there is no traditionalist-liberal distinction for me.
So Vatican Council II for me is not a rupture with Holy Mass in Greek during the Patristic period , when they held the strict interpretation of EENS and BOD,BOB and I.I were not exceptions.
The Associated Press journalists,for example, interpret Vatican Council II only with Cushingism and so they criticize the traditionalists, who do not see Vatican Council II as a break with Tradition.So there is a traditionalist-liberal distinction for them.
The books on Vatican Council II authored by Fr. Jared Wicks sj and Paul Lakeland were reviewed on the National Catholic Reporter only because the writers interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism.
I have been asking the NCR,the Oxford University Press and other media, to not review books from authors, who interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, etc in Vatican Council II as being exceptions to EENS. This is Cushingism. It is irrational. It is not Catholic.
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc are hypothetical for me. They can only be hypothetical for us human beings.So Vatican Council II does not have any exceptions to EENS ( Feeneyite).
I have been asking the NCR,the Oxford University Press and other media, to not review books from authors, who interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, etc in Vatican Council II as being exceptions to EENS. This is Cushingism. It is irrational. It is not Catholic.
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc are hypothetical for me. They can only be hypothetical for us human beings.So Vatican Council II does not have any exceptions to EENS ( Feeneyite).
For me there are no more the 50 years of before- and- after- Vatican Council II division.Neither is there the division of the Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass ecclesiology. These divisions melt away when Vatican Council II is Feeneyite.
I am ' a rigid Catholic' who is supported by Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).
I am a traditionalist whose traditionalism is supported by Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).
I am a Feeneyite on extra extra ecclesiam nulla salus supported by the Council, which is Feeneyite, when a false premise and inference, is avoided, in the interpretation.
We can look at this practically.
Both groups of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, for example, would have to be Feeneyite on Vatican Council II and EENS, since Cushingism is irrational and deceptive.They do not have a choice.
So when both groups acknowledge that they can only be Feeneyite on Vatican Council II, what difference does it make, if the Rite is Latin, Byzantine, Syro Malabar, Maronite or in the vernacular. They are affirming Tradition and the Council.
Franciscans of the Immaculate seminarians who study theology at the pontifical universities, approved by Pope Francis, would know that Vatican Council II can only be Feeneyite.
So this distinction between traditionalists and liberals based upon Vatican Council II is now meaningless for me.Vatican Council II is Feeneyite and the writers at the National Catholic Reporter have to accept it.There is no Cushingite choice.They cannot choose to re-interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.This would be unethical.
The Franciscans of the Immaculate can no more be accused of being crypto-Lefebvrist, since Lefebvrism, is Cushingite. The SSPX , FSSP and F.I priests can offer/attend the Traditional Latin Mass, as traditionalists but they would have to do it with Feeneyism.
Brother Andre Marie MICM, the Prior at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA goes for the Latin Mass at a church in New Hampshire, USA when the priest possibly still interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism.So at Mass in Latin, or English, the theology of the priest and the congregation could be Cushingite or Feeneyite.
The traditionalist-liberal, rigid-non rigid distinctions should not apply to both Andre Marie and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, since Vatican Council II is Feeneyite for him and the Council is no more a rupture with Tradition.He is a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II(Cushingite) and accepts Vatican Council II( Feeneyite). So he is a traditionalist who does not reject the Council and is not in schism with the past popes on EENS( Feeneyite).
When Vatican Council II, the Catechisms and Creeds are interpreted with Feeneyism ( invisible people are invisible in the present times), Pope Francis cannot make his rigid and non rigid distinction. It is only with Cushingism that he can create heresy and schism and then expect Catholics to follow, this Vatican Council II(Cushingite), which creates a rupture with the popes and saints over the centuries on EENS, Nicene Creed, Athanasius Creed etc.-Lionel Andrades
I am ' a rigid Catholic' who is supported by Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).
I am a traditionalist whose traditionalism is supported by Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).
I am a Feeneyite on extra extra ecclesiam nulla salus supported by the Council, which is Feeneyite, when a false premise and inference, is avoided, in the interpretation.
We can look at this practically.
Both groups of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, for example, would have to be Feeneyite on Vatican Council II and EENS, since Cushingism is irrational and deceptive.They do not have a choice.
So when both groups acknowledge that they can only be Feeneyite on Vatican Council II, what difference does it make, if the Rite is Latin, Byzantine, Syro Malabar, Maronite or in the vernacular. They are affirming Tradition and the Council.
Franciscans of the Immaculate seminarians who study theology at the pontifical universities, approved by Pope Francis, would know that Vatican Council II can only be Feeneyite.
So this distinction between traditionalists and liberals based upon Vatican Council II is now meaningless for me.Vatican Council II is Feeneyite and the writers at the National Catholic Reporter have to accept it.There is no Cushingite choice.They cannot choose to re-interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.This would be unethical.
The Franciscans of the Immaculate can no more be accused of being crypto-Lefebvrist, since Lefebvrism, is Cushingite. The SSPX , FSSP and F.I priests can offer/attend the Traditional Latin Mass, as traditionalists but they would have to do it with Feeneyism.
Brother Andre Marie MICM, the Prior at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA goes for the Latin Mass at a church in New Hampshire, USA when the priest possibly still interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism.So at Mass in Latin, or English, the theology of the priest and the congregation could be Cushingite or Feeneyite.
The traditionalist-liberal, rigid-non rigid distinctions should not apply to both Andre Marie and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, since Vatican Council II is Feeneyite for him and the Council is no more a rupture with Tradition.He is a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II(Cushingite) and accepts Vatican Council II( Feeneyite). So he is a traditionalist who does not reject the Council and is not in schism with the past popes on EENS( Feeneyite).
When Vatican Council II, the Catechisms and Creeds are interpreted with Feeneyism ( invisible people are invisible in the present times), Pope Francis cannot make his rigid and non rigid distinction. It is only with Cushingism that he can create heresy and schism and then expect Catholics to follow, this Vatican Council II(Cushingite), which creates a rupture with the popes and saints over the centuries on EENS, Nicene Creed, Athanasius Creed etc.-Lionel Andrades
JANUARY 16, 2020
The New Theology is used by Diane Montagna, Roberto dei Mattei and traditionalists and liberals.The real issue never ever was the Latin Mass but the New Theology, Cushingite theology.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-new-theology-is-used-by-diane.html
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