Sul battesimo di desiderio, l'errore FEENEYSTA...: Lo stesso errore viene commesso dai liberali e dai tradizionalisti nella Chiesa cattolica.

Questo Feeneyite, Lionel Andrades, accetta il battesimo del desiderio(BOD) e anche la tradizionale interpretazione del dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) come p. Leonard Feeney di Boston.

San Tommaso d'Aquino ha tenuto la rigorosa interpretazione del dogma EENS come p. Leonard Feeney e non ha rifiutato il battesimo del desiderio (BOD).Non bisogna.Il BOD è ovviamente ipotetico per noi. Quindi non può essere rilevante o un'eccezione al dogma EENS.Così ha potuto affermare la tradizionale interpretazione del dogma EENS insieme all'ipotetico per noi BOD.

Allo stesso modo il Concilio di Trento ha affermato la rigorosa interpretazione del dogma EENS insieme alla possibilità che qualcuno venga salvato con il battesimo del desiderio che sarebbe ovviamente conosciuto solo da Dio.

Quindi i papi e i santi accettarono il battesimo del desiderio, il battesimo del sangue e l'essere salvati nell'ignoranza invincibile come casi ipotetici. Possono essere solo casi ipotetici per noi esseri umani.

Tuttavia i teologi liberali interpretarono BOD, BOB e I.I come casi noti e rilevanti per la EENS. Quindi la Lettera del Sant'Uffizio 1949 ha fatto un errore oggettivo.

Lo stesso errore viene commesso dai liberali e dai tradizionalisti nella Chiesa cattolica.

L'oratore nel video mescola ciò che è invisibile come visibile.

Translation in English

This Feeneyite Lionel Andrades accepts the baptism of desire and also the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) like Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

St. Thomas Aquinas held the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS like Fr. Leonard Feeney and he did not reject the baptism of desire (BOD).

Since the BOD is obviously hypothetical for us. So it cannot be relevant or an exception to the dogma EENS.It cannot be anything else.So he could affirm the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS along with hypothetical for us BOD.

Similarly the Council of Trent affirmed the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS along with the possibility of someone being saved with the baptism of desire which would obvioiusly be known only to God.

So the popes and saints accepted the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) as being hypothetical cases only. They can only be hypothetical cases for us human beings.

However the liberal theologians interpreted BOD, BOB and I.I as being known cases and relevant to EENS. So the Letter of the Holy Office made an objective mistake.

The same error is made by the liberals and traditionalists in the Catholic Church.

The speaker in the video mixes up what is invisible as being visible.-Lionel Andrades

Apparition theology at traditionalist conferences

The traditionalists are not affirming Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) which is in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS-Feeneyite), they are not affirming Feeneyite baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) which is in line with EENS( Feeneyite), they are also interpreting the Catechisms with rational and traditional Feeneyism, instead of their present Cushingite approach, and then they criticize Our Lady at Medugorje for not supporting Feeneyite EENS.

This summer they will have their 'fake conferences' based on Cushingite, liberal philosophy and theology and they want Our Lady at Medugorje  to affirm Feeneyite EENS, which the popes oppose and they do not affirm.

The traditionalists, theologically and doctrinally,reject Feeneyite EENS like the liberals.Since Archbishop Lefebvre  and Pope Pius XII did so.Now even when they know that invisible for us BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be a visible exception to EENS( Feeneyite) in 2018, they will not affirm EENS according to the Magisterium and missionarieds in the 16th century. Instead they will keep silent on this issue.They will continue to affirm EENS( Cushingite).For them, BOD,BOB and I.I will also be Cushingite for them.In this way they create a rupture with Tradition.

If Our Lady at Medugorje said hypothetical cases must be interpreted as being non hypothetical and actually real people in 2018, the traditionalists would object.Yet this is exactly how the traditionalists interpret Vatican Council II.
For them hypothetical and theoretical cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.So in other words they refer to known,non Catholics saved outside the Church. Only if they are visible non Catholics, can they be objective exceptions  to EENS( Feeneyite) in 2018 or over the years.Invisible people are not exceptions.
This will be the reasoning of the traditionalists  at the Lepanto Foundation conference in Rome on June 23 and the one which follows in a resort-city of Italy.
They seemingly have their own apparitions.For them  hypothetical people emerging in their cities as live people.They can see these 'ghosts' saved outside the Church. Or they have a glimpse into Heaven and see a few people there without the baptism of water and instead with the baptism of desire etc.
A visionary at a Marian apparition in Brazil was told by Our Lady that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation and the visionary was approved by the bishop. The new bishop has silenced him.
At Medugorje Our Lady told Mirjana one of the visionaries, to read the book The Poem of the Man God by Maria Valtorta to know about her life as an infant and child.But this was too controversial for the Franciscans there. Valtorta was also Feeneyite on EENS.
The traditionalists are rejecting traditional theology and doctrine, like the Vatican and they are criticizing Our Lady at Medugorje, for being in step with 'the Church' - and so not having the apparitions shut down because of doctrine; doctrine which the traditionalists too are not affirming.-Lionel Andrades

JUNE 13, 2018

Fake conferences

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/fake-conferences.html

JUNE 11, 2018

Speakers will re-cycle errors and tell us what we already know about them and their obsolete views, which are also those of the liberals and the ecclesiastics at the Vatican : Lepanto Foundation Conference in Rome

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/speakers-will-re-cycle-errors-and-tell.html

JUNE 12, 2018

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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/john-henry-weston-will-not-answer-he-is.html

JUNE 10, 2018

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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/like-church-militant-tv-lifesites-news.html

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JUNE 10, 2018

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MARCH 5, 2015

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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/03/march-for-life-2015-double-standards.html

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