All the Superior Generals of the Ecclesia Dei communities in their statement at Cortelain France, have accepted Vatican Council II which they will interpret with a Fake but politically correct premise to produce a politically acceptable break with Tradition. The Superior Generals included that of the FSSP.They are all interpreting Vatican Council II like the liberals and they call themselves traditionalists only because they attend/offer Mass in Latin.Lionel Andrades
JANUARY 18, 2022
Msgr. Gilles Wach, Prior General of the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest offers the Latin Mass while supporting mortal sins of faith
-Lionel Andrades
Msgr. Gilles Wach, Prior General of the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest offers the Latin Mass while supporting mortal sins of faith.There is no denial from him since the False Premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II contradicts the Athanasius Creed, and changes the interpretation of the Nicene Creed. The Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX on an ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church is rejected with alleged exceptions caused by the False Premise.But with the False Premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II he is politically correct with the Left.
It is the same for the priests who offer the Novus Ordo Holy Mass.-Lionel Andrades
JANUARY 18, 2022
All the Superior Generals of the Ecclesia Dei are supporting mortal sins of faith
JANUARY 17, 2022
Msgr. Gilles Wach, Prior General of the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, signed the communiqué of the Ecclesia Dei last September approving Vatican Council II interpreted with the Fake Premise and not the Rational Premise
Msgr. Gilles Wach, Prior General of the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, signed the communiqué of the Ecclesia Dei last September approving Vatican Council II interpreted with the Fake Premise and not the Rational Premise. If he used the Rational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II, the Left will accuse him of being a Feeneyite.
With Vatican Council II interpreted with the False Premise all the Superior Generals of the Ecclesia Dei communities, who signed the communique, support mortal sins of faith, schism with the past Magisterium.They suppport first class heresy when they change the meaning of the Creeds with the False Premise.They also wrongly project Vatican Council II as contradicting the Athanasius Creed etc with alleged exceptions, which they create with the False Premise.-Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/01/msgr-gilles-wach-prior-general-of.html
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JANUARY 16, 2022
Father Louis-Marie de Blignières, Superior General of the Fraternity of Saint Vincent Ferrier, France signed the Communique of the Ecclesia Dei communities at Cortalain, France last September, in which he approved Vatican Council II interpreted with the False Premise. It creates the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.It is an abjuration of the Catholic faith. It supports schism with the past Magisterium, first class heresy on the Creeds and the rejection of de fide teachings of the Church which it is obligatory to believe in
We reaffirm our adherence to the magisterium (including that of Vatican II and what follows), according to the Catholic doctrine of the assent due to it (cf. in particular LUMEN GENTIUM, §25, and Catechism of the Catholic Church, §891 and §892), as evidenced by the numerous studies and doctoral theses carried out by several of us over the past 33 years. - Joint Statement by Superiors General of “Ecclesia Dei” Communities,Courtelain, France, https://www.ccwatershed.org/2021/09/02/breaking-joint-statement-by-superiors-general-of-ecclesia-dei-communities/
Father Louis-Marie de Blignières, Superior General of the Fraternity of Saint Vincent Ferrier, France signed the Communique of the Ecclesia Dei communities at Cortalain, France last September, in which he approved Vatican Council II interpreted with the False Premise. It creates the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.It is an abjuration of the Catholic faith. It supports schism with the past Magisterium, first class heresy on the Creeds and the rejection of de fide teachings of the Church which it is obligatory to believe in, example, the Creeds, without their meaning being changed with a False Premise, inference and non traditional conclusion.
Since Father Louis-Marie de Blignières is politically correct with the Left he is allowed politically to function in France.
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JANUARY 9, 2022
Father Louis-Marie de Blignières, Superior General of the Fraternity of Saint Vincent Ferrier, France has not issued a statement on Vatican Council II interpreted with the Fake Premise and the Rational Premise
Father Louis-Marie de Blignières, Superior General of the Fraternity of Saint Vincent Ferrier, France will continue to offer the Latin Mass as before Traditionis Custode. However he has not issued a statement on Vatican Council II, which is the real issue. Will he interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise as Pope Francis wants or will he interpret the Council with the Rational Premise and so with the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition ?
He could also assist the Latin laity at Dijon, France and ask Bishop Roland Minnerath and the diocesan priests there, who offer the Novus Ordo and Latin Mass, to also interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise and return to the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Patristic period and the Middle Ages.
At First Holy Communion preparation classes in France, Vatican Council II should not be interpreted according to Bishop Roland Minnerath but with Vatican Council II (rational) which has a hermeneutic of continuity with the Magisterium over the centuries in France.
He could appeal to Pope Francis to re-interpret Vatican Council II rationally and come back to the Faith. A major flaw in Traditionis Custode is that it interprets Vatican Council II with the Fake Premise and considers this the work of the Holy Spirit.
In Rome, if Cardinal Angelo Donatis, Vicar General, did not use the False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II, then during his Holy Mass in Italian for the Easter Triduum, this year, there would be nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the Athanasius Creed, the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus with hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire( LG 14) and invincible ignorance(LG 16) not being practical and objective exceptions. Cardinal Donatis, who has prohibited the Latin Mass for the Easter Triduum, would be conservative in his theology. There would be a hermeneutic of continuity with St. Ignatius of Loyola and St. Francis Xavier when they offered the Traditional Latin Mass and held the traditional exclusivist concept of salvation.
The Italian cardinal would be affirming an exclusivist ecclesiology at Holy Mass in Italian and there would no more be a pre and post Vatican Council II ecclesiology. So the theology at Mass in Italian, Latin, Greek or Syro Malabar would be the same. It would be traditional.It would be Feeneyite and not Cushingite.
So there no more would be a reason for Pope Francis and the Left to target only the Latin Mass in the name of Vatican Council II interpreted with the Fake Theology; the Fake Premise.
How can diocesan priests be allowed to use a Fake Premise to interpret Vatican Council II at the Novus Ordo Mass in France, Italy etc ?. Father Louis-Marie de Blignières, Superior General of the Fraternity of Saint Vincent Ferrier must ask the French Bishops Conference.-Lionel Andrades
https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2016/11/fraternity-of-st-vincent-ferrer-in-nyc.html#.Ydq-oDPMLcc
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/new-rome-pastoral-guidelines-raise-eyebrows
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OCTOBER 21, 2021
The pope cannot interpret Vatican Council II schismatically and expect the Ecclesia Dei communities and the rest of the Church to do the same. The pope is rejecting the rational interpretation of the Council. The Council interpreted rationally or irrationally is now an issue in the Church. We now have official heresy. There is official schism with the past Magisterium. Courtelain did not mention this point : Review the LA interpretation of Vatican Council II
THE POPE CANNOT INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II SCHISMATICALLY AND EXPECT THE ECCLESIA DEI COMMUNTIES AND THE REST OF THE CHURCH TO DO THE SAME.THE POPE IS REJECTING THE RATIONAL INTERPRETATION OF THE COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL INTERPRETED RATIONALLY OR IRRATIONALLY IS NOW AN ISSUE IN THE CHURCH.WE NOW HAVE OFFICIAL HERESY. THERE IS OFFICIAL SCHISM WITH THE PAST MAGISTERIUM. COURTELAIN DID NOT MENTION THIS POINT.
There is only one rational interpretation of Vatican Council II.It’s with a rational premise.So there is no change in the teachings of the Catholic Church.The Ecclesia Dei communities meeting at Courtalain, France, August 31, 2021 had to confirm this.So when there is any reference to Vatican Council II it is understood that only the rational interpretation of the Council has to be chosen.If the pope does not affirm the traditional teachings of the Church, and chooses an irrational interpretion of the Council, with an irrational premise, he is in schism.Since the irrational premise has to create a rupture with de fide teachings ( Creeds and Catechisms).
If he interprets Vatican Council II schismatically with the false premise, he is in schism and his interpretation is not Magisterial and binding on all Catholics.The pope cannot interpret Vatican Council II schismatically and expect the Ecclesia Dei communities and the rest of the Novus Ordo Church to do the same.
Why should the Latin Mass Societies , Una Voce International and the Catholic Bishops Conference, who follow the pope, for example in Britain, interpret Vatican Council II irrationally, create a break with Tradition and consider this the norm ?
The Ecclesia Dei communities statement at Courtalain missed out on this point.The pope is in schism and he wants them to also accept schism by rejecting the rational interpretation of the Council.
Lay Catholics Roberto dei Mattei, Joseph Shaw, Peter Kwasniewski and John Henry Weston are ready to attend the Latin Mass and interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational premise, like Pope Francis, and so support a break with Tradition and also support manifest schism.This is approved by the Left.
Pope Francis is asking the Ecclesia Dei communities to accept Vatican Council II irrationally and schismatically, and they are going along with him.This was also the schismatic interpretation of Pope Benedict and they were content with it.
Before they have a meeting with Pope Francis and welcome apostolic visitors, these communities must clarify that they choose to interpret Vatican Council II non schismatically , with the rational premise, inference and non traditional conclusion.If they choose the irrational premise ( invisible people are visible in 2021) then the Council is a rupture with the Athanasius Creed ( all need Catholic faith for salvation).It contradicts the First Commandment( there is true worship in other religions with other gods).It changes the Nicene Creed ( I believe in one, holy, Catholic and apostolic Church in which membership is not always needed for salvation) and ( I beleive in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and also three or more known baptisms( desire, blood, invincible ignorance etc), which exclude the baptism of water and so they are practical exceptions to EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).
This is official heresy. It is also official schism with the past Magisterium.The false premise is used to create a new fake theology.This is unethical.The Ecclesia Dei communities are being coerced, to accept the New Theology and the fake interpretation of the Council, in exchange for canonical recognition and permission to offer the Latin Mass.
In Switzerland, Bishop Charles Morerod op would not allow the Society of St.Pius X to use the churches for Holy Mass in Latin.He said here was a doctrinal problem.He wanted the SSPX to interpret Vatican Council II schismatically with the irrational premise and accept the non traditional conclusion.He was supported by Pope Benedict.
The Ecclesia Dei communities must demand that Bishop Morerod interpret Vatican Council II with the rational premise, inference and traditional conclusion and that he reject his schismatic version of the Council.It is created with the New Theology.They should also demand that all Apostolic Visitors to their communties do the same.
Vatican Council II interpreted rationally or irrationally is now an issue in the Church and the National Catechectical Offices and the Bishops Conferences, have no right to interpret the Council irrationally, creating schism and heresy, and expect the Ecclesia Dei communities to follow them.
The Ecclesia Dei communities are limited. Since they accept Vatican Council II schismatically like Pope Francis. They all use the false premise which Bishop Schneider avoided in his recent interview with Dr. Taylor Marshall.
The Institute of Christ the King priest , who is an Assistant to the diocesan Parish Priest for the Latin Mass in Dijon, France, could inform Bishop Roland Minnerath and the present two popes that he refuses to interpret Vatican Council II schismatically with the false premise.He would also inform the laity to accept the Council, which is no more an issue, but interpret it with the rational premise.-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 3, 2021
The Ecclesia Dei communties must not let Pope Francis affirm Vatican Council II schismatically with the false premise and expect the rest of the Church to follow
SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2021
It is Pope Francis and Pope Benedict who are in schism and heresy with their irrational interpretation of the Council. This error has to be exposed by the Ecclesia Dei communities. Why should Catholics interpret the Council with the irrational premise and create a rupture with Tradition ? There is a choice. Why should the Ecclesia Dei communities continue to interpret the Council with an irrational premise , which produces a schismatic result, and then continue to be obedient ?
AUGUST 5, 2021
Repost : Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a false rupture with Tradition and he calls it the work of the Holy Spirit, in the Letter which accompanies Traditionis Custode.
SEPTEMBER 9, 2021
I want the Ecclesia Dei communities to know that they can interpret Vatican Council II with a rational or irrational premise and the conclusion will be different. It will be traditional or non traditional. This hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition does not depend upon Pope Francis or the CDF. The issue is the rational premise
Comments from the blog Vox Cantoris,
ose guadalupe rodriguez said...
Clearly submission to the holy father,to the supreme pontiff, to pope francis, to the bergoglian magisterium, to lumen gentium #25, to the vatican II.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
They sound like terrified beggars who expect to be squashed.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What a fawning, sickening statement they came up with. Absolutely useless. If that's all the response they have then they are done for, Bergoglio and his ilk will devour their institutes just like the Franciscans of the Immaculate.
They must tell the two popes to affirm the traditional ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church for all Christians, since Unitatatis Redintigratio 3 does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
They must demand that Pope Francis and Pope Benedict return to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church since there is nothing in the entire text of Lumen Gentium to contradict the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.
Anonymous Paul Dale said...
THURSDAY, 2 SEPTEMBER 2021
https://voxcantor.blogspot.com/2021/09/communique-of-superiors-general-of.html
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