Poland,Hungary, Slovenia, the Crimea and the Balkan countries must ask the Vatican to permit them to interpret all magisterial documents with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism. This is how it was during the time of the Catholic Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Poland,Hungary, Slovenia, the Crimea  and the Balkan countries must ask the Vatican to permit them to interpret all magisterial documents  with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism. This is how it was during the time of the Catholic Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Cardinal Schonborn is a Cushingite and he must not impose his error on Catholics in Austria and the Balkans.

Similarly the Catholic communities and churches in Russia and the Ukraine must be free to use Feeneyism, as an interpretative  theology as was done for centuries in that region of the world.-Lionel Andrades

OCTOBER 2, 2018

They have a choice in Hungary and Prime Minister Viktor Orban can ask that catechesis and catechism classes for children and adults be based on Vatican Council II Feeneyite and not Vatican Council II Cushingite.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/they-have-choice-in-hungary-and-prime.html

OCTOBER 1, 2018

Polish Government must not use Pope Benedict's writings as a reference : does not affirm Social Reign of Christ the King and non separation of Church and State, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.or Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) which is the basis for the past ecclesiology of the Church

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/polish-government-must-use-pope.html

 SEPTEMBER 27, 2018

Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the error and this could be the official interpretation of the Council by the CDF

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-can-be-interpreted.html
 

 OCTOBER 2, 2018

When the Catholic Church in Hungary and Poland affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) then the Church's doctrine and theology would be the same as during the time of the Austro-Hungarian Empire

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/when-they-catholic-church-in-hungary.html

OCTOBER 11, 2018

Foreign Ministers of Hungary, Poland and Austria must ask the Vatican Secretary of State not to impose Leftist doctrine on the Catholic Church

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/foreign-ministers-of-hungary-poland-and.html

OCTOBER 10, 2018

Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Sjizzarto must tell Cardinal Pietro Parolin to end the Leftist version of Catholicism in Hungary http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/hungarian-prime-minister-peter.html

OCTOBER 15, 2017

We are in the same Church but the Polish bishops interpret the Nicene Creed, EENS, Vatican Council II and the Catechism differently

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/we-are-in-same-church-but-polish.html
 JUNE 7, 2017
Poland recognizes the Holy See whose philosophy and theology is Cushingism :Vatican Council II is a rupture with Tradition - 1 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/06/poland-recognises-holy-see-whose.html
OCTOBER 18, 2017
 Polish Bishops object to exceptions in moral theology but wrongly accept it in salvation theology https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/10/polish-bishops-object-to-exceptions-in.html
 
 
 
JULY 16, 2017 Catholics need to work for the separation of State and secularism and the non separation of Church and State even if opposed by Fr.Spadero s.j and the Vatican  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/07/catholics-needs-to-work-for-separation.html
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 

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The German, Maltese, Italian and Polish bishops conferences interpret all magisterial documents with irrational Cushingism and this has been approved by Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican Secretary of State.He supports it.

The St.Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA in the Diocese of Manchester,affirm Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The German, Maltese and Italian bishops must be asked to do the same.

The St. Benedict Center interprets all magisterial documents with Feeneyism( hypothetical cases are hypothetical only ).The  American and European bishops instead use irrational Cushingism( hypothetical cases are objective  examples of salvation in 2019).

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) recommends Cushingism. It creates the hermeneutic of rupture. 

So presently there are  two set of doctrines even among the traditionalists. The SSPX uses Cushingism and the SBC, Feeneyism.The CDF wants the SBC to switch to irrational but politically correct Cushingism. Cushingism creates heresy,as a philosophy and theology.It is a theological innovation in the Catholic Church.

Meanwhile the SSPX does not affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite)  and it rejects Vatican Council II (Cushingite). They have not received full  canonical status from the CDF.

The St. Benedict Center in the Diocese of Worcester, USA have been granted canonical recognition  by  Bishop Robert J. McManus.Brother Thomas Augustine, Prior, SBC, affirms EENS ( Feeneyite) and condones the Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) of Bishop McManus and his Curia.Their position on Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) is still un-clear.They are approved by the CDF,unlike the SBC in the Diocese of Worcester, under Bishop Peter Libasci.

The German, Maltese, Italian and Polish bishops conferences interpret all magisterial documents with irrational Cushingism and this has been approved by Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican Secretary of State.He supports it.-Lionel Andrades

OCTOBER 10, 2018

Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Sjizzarto must tell Cardinal Pietro Parolin to end the Leftist version of Catholicism in Hungary

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/hungarian-prime-minister-peter.html

OCTOBER 15, 2017

We are in the same Church but the Polish bishops interpret the Nicene Creed, EENS, Vatican Council II and the Catechism differently

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/we-are-in-same-church-but-polish.html

Fr.Stefano Visintin osb, a scientist contradicts HLI staff and the USCCB

Fr. Stefano Visintin osb, Rector, University of St. Anselm, Rome is a Feeneyite. He interprets Vatican Council II  and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), differently when compared with the Human Life International Staff and the United States Catholic Conference of Bishops(USCCB).For him the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) are not exceptions to EENS. Archbishop Thomas E. Gullickson, Nuncio to Switzerland and Liechtenstein agrees with him.

Fr.Visintin is also a physicist.He refers to the laws of nature when he says that physically  we cannot see a non Catholic saved outside the Church, who now is settled in Heaven.So if we cannot see or personally know of a particular person saved outside the Catholic Church, there are no objective examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church.There are no exceptions to EENS for us human beings.

-Lionel Andrades

Repost : Feeneyism, Cushingism is a tool to identify the error in Vatican Council II(Cushingite), avoid it and return back to the past ecclesiology of the Church without rejecting Vatican Council II(Feeneyite).

FEBRUARY 2, 2018

Feeneyism, Cushingism is a tool to identify the error in Vatican Council II(Cushingite), avoid it and return back to the past ecclesiology of the Church without rejecting Vatican Council II(Feeneyite).

Feeneyism according to Lionel Andrades says there are no known cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) in 2018.There were none in 1949 and 1960-1965.Neither at the time of St.Emerentiana.So when the popes, cardinals and bishops at Vatican Council II assumed that there were known cases of BOD,BOB and I.I, they made a mistake.They concluded that there were visible and known cases of BOD,BOB and I.I which were examples of salvation outside the Church.So for them there were exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as it was interpreted over the centuries.So Vatican Council II had to become a rupture on ecumenism,a rupture with Feeneyite EENS and the past ecclesiology of the Church.The Syllabus of Errors was rejected.

So now we have the Nicene Creed, EENS, Vatican Council II etc interpreted with Cushingism( according to L.A) which uses the false premise(invisible people are visible) andfalse conclusion(they are objective exceptions to EENS and an example of salvation outside the Church).This is the Cushingite innovation in the Church which make traditionalists heretics and conservatives modernists(like the bloggers Ann Barnhardt and Mundabor).

So I recite the Profession of Faith with Feeneyite philosophy( invisible people are invisible only) andtheology( outside the Church there is no known salvation) while other Catholics recite the Profession of Faith with Cushingite philosophy(invisible people are visible in the present times) andtheology( there is known salvation outside the Church).

So our concept of 'one holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church'(ecclesiology) is different.

Our concept of the Holy Spirit's teachings is different.Pope Benedict confirmed this in March 2016 when he said that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.For him EENS is Cushingite and for the 16th century magisterium it was Feeneyite.

For me the Nicene Creed refers to 'One (known) baptism for the forgiveness of sins( the baptism of water).For the others it is 'I believe in three or more baptisms for the forgiveness of sins(desire, blood, invincible ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water'.

Same Church-but different doctrines and theology.

Different meanings to the Profession of Faith.

So when I refer to Feeneyism it is because the rest of the Church is using Cushingism and it is normal for them. So I have to correct the error.It is they who have brought something foreign and new into the Church and it is not me who has done this.

I call  the old theology Feeneyism and the new theology Cushingism to identify precisely what I mean.Others can call the same thing something else.Some names could be, Sixteenth Century Magisterial Theology and Twentyfirst Century Magisterial Theology, Old Jesuit Middle Age Theology and New Jesuit Modernist Theologyetc.

Feeneyism, Cushingism is a tool to identify the error in Vatican Council II(Cushingite), avoid it and return back to the past ecclesiology of the Church without rejecting Vatican Council II(Feeneyite).

-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/02/feeneyism-cushingism-is-tool-to.html

Repost : We affirm Tradition and Vatican Council II and can ask the German bishops to do the same. Ask them to affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus like the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century. It is compatibile with Vatican Council II( Feeneyite).

 FEBRUARY 16, 2018

We affirm Tradition and Vatican Council II and can ask the German bishops to do the same. Ask them to affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus like the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century. It is compatibile with Vatican Council II( Feeneyite).

Comments from The Eponymous Flower

We can also give up the usual way traditionalists and liberals interpret Vatican Council II

FEBRUARY 15, 2018
Reinterpret Vatican Council II with these four links
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/reinterpret-vatican-council-ii-with_15.htm

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AnonymousFebruary 15, 2018 at 7:59 AM

It's not open for "reinterpretation" because it contains errors, if the document contains errors you have to throw the entire thing in the garbage.

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

That's a simple falsehood, an error or a lie, voiding the entire document and this is only one example.

Lionel:

There are philosophical errors in Vatican Council II which come from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 but we can still re-interpet Vatican Council II in harmony with the past ecclesiology of the Church, the Syllabus of Errors and the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
So lets go ahead and do it and let Rome come back to the Faith and let the German bishops reject Vatican Council II as the SSPX is doing today.
We have to make the distinction between Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) and Vatican Council II(Cushingite). Reject Vatican Council II(Cushingite) which is non traditional and irrational and affirm Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) which avoids the New Theology.
This is what the SSPX can do immediately and then ask for canonical recognition.

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, 

Lionel:
The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 assumed that there was known salvation outside the Church.This was an error. So Nostra Aetate says that the plan of salvation also includes the Muslims.

The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 mistookinvisible for us baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance as being visible exceptions to the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is Cushingite theology.It is a mistake. Yet this was the theology used by Cardinal Cushing and the others at Vatican Council II.It is used by the two popes today.
Now even though this is an error we can re-interpet Vatican Council II.
Just be aware that all salvation in personal cases is known only to God. So there is no known Muslim who is saved outside the Church. The reference to salvation here is a reference to a theoretical and hypothetical case, a speculative case.It is based on the wrong reasoning in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. So we know that the salvation mentioned here cannot be a practical exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
The Magisterium made a mistake.
So even though there is an error in Vatican Council II, a philosophical error, which cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit, we can still interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the old exclusivist ecclesiology and the Syllabus of Errors, by simply avoiding the false Cushingite premise.
In this way we affirm Tradition and Vatican Council II and can ask the German bishops to do the same. Ask them to affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus like the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century. It is comptaible with Vatican Council II( Feeneyite).
Lionel Andrades

JANUARY 1, 2018

German bishops interpret Vatican Council II with philosophical error - possible schism ahead?http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/german-bishops-interpret-vatican.html

February 15, 2018

Reinterpret Vatican Council II with these four links

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/reinterpret-vatican-council-ii-with_15.html

FEBRUARY 8, 2018

Error repeated in the Church : there is salvation outside the Church.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/error-repeated-in-church-there-is.html

http://eponymousflower.blogspot.it/2018/02/rome-gives-up-pope-for-lent.html#comment-form

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/02/we-affirm-tradition-and-vatican-council.html

Repost : As a Catholic I affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite-without the premise) in harmony with EENS(Feeneyite), for me the Nicene Creed simply says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' and not three known baptisms which exclude the baptism of water in the Church

 FEBRUARY 19, 2018

As a Catholic I affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite-without the premise) in harmony with EENS(Feeneyite), for me the Nicene Creed simply says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' and not three known baptisms which exclude the baptism of water in the Church

My response today to a letter.

Dear ...,

Praised be Jesus and Our Lady.

Thanks for your reply but you've missed the point of what I was trying to say.

I know you'll affirm all Magisterial documents and so do I.

Pope Francis is the pope for me.

Having got all this out of the way the point I want to make is that being saved in invincible  ignorance(I.I), the baptism of desire(BOB) and the baptism of blood(BOB), which you , the Magisterium and I affirm, can be interpreted in two ways and the conclusion would be different.

I repeat we both accept that theoretically a person can be saved with BOD, BOB and I.I if God wants it. So BOD, BOB and I.I is not the issue at least for me.

And here I come to the point I want to make and you will find a lot of material on my blog.It is there on the  subject of Cushingism and Feeneyism(according to Lionel Andrades).

This ordinary lay man is saying that with Cushingism( it says BOD,BOB and I.I refers to known people saved outside the Church) there is a different interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

With Feeneyism (BOD etc refer to unknown people saved outside the Church in 2018 for example) the interpretation is traditional, like in the 16th century.

But the heart of the issue is that with Feeneyism the interpretation of Vatican Council II also dramatically changes.

The popes since Paul VI have interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism.I use Feeneyism.

So Vatican Council II(Cushingite) is a rupture with the dogma EENS( Feeneyite-traditional).It is also a rupture with Vatican Council II( Feeneyite-traditional).

So Vatican Council has always been a rupture with Tradition for you all there.Since Cushingism produces the hemeneutic of discontinuity.

Of course this would be expected since the Letter of the Holy Office and Vatican Council II itself is Cushingite.

The false premise (BOD refers to visible people saved outside the Church) used in the 1949 Letter in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case was made the new doctrine at Vatican Council II.

So could you all  clarify at  least for me, that BOD, BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases in 2018 ? We cannot meet or see someone saved as such?

Probably every one there would respond with a  'Yes, they are hypothetical cases we cannot meet any one saved with BOD, BOB and I.I since they would be in Heaven'.

Then I come to my beliefs as a Catholic. I affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite-without the premise) which is in harmony with EENS(Feeneyite).For me the Nicene Creed simply says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' and not three known baptisms which exclude the baptism of water, this would be Cushingite.I interpret Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus with Feeneyismand I am aware that Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria s.j would choose Cushingism.I interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church (Feeneyite) in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS.

So I affirm Vatican Council II along with the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS, as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.

Can you all say the same? This is a doctrinal issue.

-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/02/then-i-come-to-my-beliefs-as-cathollic.html