At Catechism and Confirmation class, children and adults must be taught to interpret Vatican Council II only rationally.

 

At Catechism and Confirmation class, children and adults must be taught to interpret Vatican Council II only rationally.

The Council is legitimate and not a break with Tradition. The Council has to be re-interpreted rationally. When it is interpreted irrationally it is not Magisterial. It is not Magisterial or Apostolic when the Council is interpreted irrationally. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc are always hypothetical. LG 8,14, 16 etc are not practical exceptions for Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and the Council of Florence (1442) on EENS. - Lionel Andrades

The Catholic Church cannot change its teachings on divorce and re-marriage, based upon Vatican Council II irrationally, being a break with Tradition. We now know that the Council can only be interpreted rationally.

 

The Catholic Church cannot change its teachings on divorce and re-marriage, based upon Vatican Council II irrationally, being a break with Tradition. We now know that the Council can only be interpreted rationally. The popes were interpreting the Council irrationally and politically.

Pope Francis’ Amoris Laetita, Traditionis Custode, the Amazon Synod and the Abu Dhabi Declaration were based upon Vatican Council II irrational and not rational. -Lionel Andrades

The Italian Government must note that all the cardinals are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. Also all the schools, colleges, universities and seminaries are doing the same.

 

The Italian Government must note that all the cardinals are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. Also all the schools, colleges, universities and seminaries are doing the same. They interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc, in Vatican Council II, as being physically visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church, in 1965-2023.Then they project these ‘physically visible cases, as being practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechisms of Pope Pius X and Trent. There is a break with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church. Even the Catechism of Pope John Paul II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is interpreted irrationally (845, 846, 1257,847,848 etc).

This mistake at the Vatican and Italian Embassies can be corrected by interpreting LG 8, 14, 16 etc, rationally. There is a return to Tradition in the Catholic Church.

The media must stop calling those who attend the Latin Mass, traditionalists. Since when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally, even those who go for Mass in the vernacular, become traditionalists.

The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and the sedevacantist communities like CMRI, MHT etc, produce division in the Church when they interpret Vatican Council II irrationally. The traditionalist-liberal division ends when the Council interpreted rationally. There is no more theological liberalism. Innovation in faith and morals can no more be rationalized. Since the Council can no more be cited to support liberalism? LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, do not contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215). The Council supports Feeneyite EENS. - Lionel Andrades

JUNE 29, 2023

The Italian Government must ask the Dept. of Education, Italy and the Congregation for Education, Vatican to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and honestly

 

The Italian Government must ask the Department of Education, Italy and the Congregation for Education, Vatican to only interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so honestly. All the universities, seminaries, colleges and schools in Italy must only interpret Vatican Council II rationally, this must be obligatory.

All the pontifical universities and also the still-closed Terra Santa seminary of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate in Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, must only interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so ethically.

They must interpret LG 8, 14, 16, UR3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as referring to hypothetical and physically invisible cases in 1965-2023.

They must not project these theoretical cases of LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as being practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). So Vatican Council II interpreted rationally, with LG 8 etc referring to only speculative cases does not contradict the dogma EENS defined by the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florence (1442). Vatican Council II has a continuity with Tradition.The Council has a continuity with the Athanasius Creed, the Catechisms of Trent and Pope Pius X and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. There is no break with the popes and saints in the historical Catholic Church in Italy. The Church today, with Vatican Council II, rational, has returned to the old understanding of Church, of the Papal States. -Lionel Andrades

Lionel Andrades

Catholic layman in Rome,

 Writer on the discovery of the two

interpretations of the Second Vatican Council, one rational and the other irrational.

One is interpreted with a false premise and

the other without it. One is Magisterial and  and the other, the common one, is non-Magisterial. An irrational interpretation cannot be Magisterial.

One is ethical and the other is unethical.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There cannot be two interpretations. This is a discovery.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational

 version which  is heretical, non-traditional,

and schismatic, when there is a rational

option which is traditional? Why must the

Italian government of Georgia Melloni be

dishonest? The popes, cardinals and bishops

choose the wrong interpretation. It is

irrational and so it is not Catholic.

 Blog: Eucharist and Mission (Lionel's blog)

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E-mail: liolandrades10@gmail.com

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All the universities only interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally and consider this scholarship and research. They grant doctoral degrees and approve thesis.The students and faculty interpret Vatican Council II unethically and irrationally

 

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When the cardinals offer Holy Mass they are in a sense, not in the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic Church, since they interpret Vatican Council II etc irrationally and so change the understanding of the Creeds. This is a mortal sin in public.

 

When the cardinals offer Holy Mass they are in a sense, not in the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic Church, since they interpret Vatican Council II etc irrationally and so change the understanding of the Creeds. This is a mortal sin in public.

When Vatican Council II is interpreted irrationally and the conclusion is non-traditional we have the common liberalism. This liberalism brings disunity in the Church.There is division caused by Church doctrine and theology.There is a New Theology, New Ecumenism, New Evangelization and New Ecclesiology.All this is produced with the Council interpreted irrationally.

When Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally i.e. LG 8, 14 and 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, are only hypothetical and invisible cases in the present times (1965-2023) the Church returns to the one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, outside of which there is no salvation. We return to the old morals, faith, mission and ecclesiology. There is no more division in the Catholic Church. Automatically we are back to the past.There is only Tradition with no liberalism. So it is necessary that cardinals announce that they will interpret LG 8, 14 and 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, rationally. They must announce that LG 8 etc are only hypothetical cases. They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church in 1949-2023.

Not only are the cardinals interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. This mistake has spread throughout the world. Even non Catholics in schools and universities are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. The error has spread in and outside the Catholic Church.

Inter-religious dialogue and ecumenism have their theological foundation in Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.

All the universities only interpret the Council irrationally and not rationally and consider this scholarship in research. They grant doctoral academic degrees to students who have their theological foundation in Vatican Council II interpreted with the common fake premise and nontraditional conclusion.

All this has to be changed immediately by interpreting the Council rationally and so returning to Tradition. The mistake in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office (CDF) to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney must also be acknowledged. - Lionel Andrades

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