Sunday, July 2, 2023
The priest can offer the Novus Ordo Mass without calling it 'a celebration'. He can offer it with Vatican Council II (rational) and call it a Sacrifice. The Mass in Italian, English etc, would then have the same exclusivist ecclesiology as the Roman Missal of the 16th century.
The priest can offer the Novus Ordo Mass without calling it 'a celebration'. He can offer it with Vatican Council II (rational) and call it a Sacrifice. The Mass in Italian, English etc, would be the Sacrifice and have the same exclusivist ecclesiology as the Roman Missal of the 16th century. Vatican Council II and the Novus Ordo Mass would then have a continuity with the Magisterium of the 16 the century.Jesus in the Catholic Church, His Mystical Body, would be necessary for salvation.
It would also call attention to Pope Francis not being Magisterial or Apostolic when he chooses to interpret the Council irrationally and dishonestly. This is political and not Catholic.
According to Canon Law the popes, cardinals
and bishops must affirm Church teachings. Cardinal Muller affirms the Church’s
teachings on homosexuality.However he rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as did Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj. Since, Muller interprets LG 8, 14, 16 as referring to physically visible cases in the
present times and so exceptions for the strict interpretation of EENS which is
opposed by the Jewish Left. - Lionel Andrades
Traditionalists who go for the Latin Mass and interpret Vatican Council II irrationally are liberals : Cardinal Marx interprets Vatican Council II like the SSPX priests at Albano
Traditionalists who go for the Latin Mass and interpret Vatican Council II irrationally are liberals. They are saying that outside the Catholic Church there is known salvation. This is even though they cannot meet or see someone saved outside the Church. If someone is saved outside the Catholic Church it would only be known to God.So there are no practical exceptions for the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation.
Why cannot a Catholic interpret Vatican Council II rationally ( LG 8,14 and 16 refer to invisible cases) and so also affirm the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) ?
CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH, VATICAN MADE A MISTAKE
The Holy Office ( CDF) in 1949 made a mistake in the Letter to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney. They confused invisible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance as being visible and objective examples of salvation outside the Church and so practical exceptions for Feeneyite EENS and the Fourth Lateran Council (1215).
The CDF continues
to repeat that mistake in 2023.The CDF interprets invisible cases of LG 8,14 and 16 etc as being
visible cases and so exceptions for the dogma EENS of the Fourth Lateran
Council (1215).
SSPX SUNDAY MASS TODAY
Today at the
SSPX Mass at the St. Catherine of Siena chapel, in his sermon, the priest criticized the
liberal modernists. But the SSPX is also modernist on Vatican
Council II, the baptism of desire, the Nicene Creed, the dogma EENS, the Church
Councils from the 13 the century etc.
LEFEBVRE CREATED DIVISION TOO
If Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre had interpreted Vatican Council II and the 1949 LOHO rationally, the Council would have a continuity with Tradition. But Lefebvre contributed towards the division in the Church. There is no comment from the SSPX. Their priests will also not comment on LG 8,14, 16 being invisible cases in 2023.
SSPX BISHOPS STILL MODERNIST AND IRRATIONAL ON VATICAN COUNCIL II ETC
The SSPX bishops still do not interpret Vatican Council II rationally so they are liberals who offer Mass in Latin, with the new ecclesiology. The SSPX seminarians at Albano now also study at the pontifical universities. So they affirm the political interpretation of Vatican Council II, irrational, in their thesis, research, comments etc.Probably they will work towards doctorates and masters in theology while interpreting Vatican Council II etc only irrationally.
NOVUS ORDO MASS CAN BE TRADITIONAL TOO
Just because
Fr. Federico Montani, Fr. Louus Sentagna and other priests of the SSPX offer
the Latin Mass, does not make them traditionalists. If a priest offers the
Novus Ordo Mass and interprets Vatican Council II rationally, he becomes a
traditionalist.
Fr.Montani was criticizing the Synods today but the Synods are based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.
MARX AND BEQUART CITE VATICAN COUNCIL II
Cardinal Marx and Sr.Nathalie Bequart have said that the Synods with their innovation have a parallel in Vatican Council II which is also a break with Tradition ( when she interprets it irrationally).She was not referring to Vatican Council II (rational). So cardinals Marx and Bishop Batzing interpret Vatican Council II just like the SSPX priests at Albano, Italy.-Lionel Andrades
JULY 1, 2023
The SSPX must stop publishing magazines (La Tradizione Cattolica etc) with the Council interpreted irrationally and as a rupture with Tradition : Don Louis Sentagne and Don Pier Paulo Petrucci make the same mistake
The SSPX District Superior , Italy, Don Louis Sentagne, in Albano, Italy, Father Federico Montani and the other SSPX priests at Albano, Italy, are still selling books with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. This is unethical. It is dishonest.
MAGAZINE TRADIZIONE CATTOLICA IS BASED UPON VATICAN COUNCIL II (IRRATIONAL)
The SSPX must stop publishing magazines (La Tradizione Cattolica etc), with the Council interpreted irrationally and so as a rupture with Tradition. They are doing this even after being informed.
SSPX PRIEST REFUSES TO ANSWER QUESTION
The SSPX priest Fr. Federico Montani, in Rome at the SSPX chapel, when asked about LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc Vatican Council II will not respond. He will not clarify what is common sense i.e. LG 8, LG 14, lG 16, UR 33, NA 2, GS 22 etc, always refer to only hypothetical cases. They refer to invisible people in 2023.So they cannot be objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) of Pope Honorius III, who also approved the Order of Preachers of St. Dominic Guzman.
He refuses to answer when asked and tells the youth there to also not answer this question.
NOVUS ORDO MASS CAN HAVE THE 12TH CENTURY ECCLESIOLOGY
The SSPX priests in Rome in their sermons also do not say that at the Novus Ordo Mass - if the priest would interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, old Councils and Catechisms and EENS rationally, he would be affirming the past ecclesiology of the Church. The priest at Mass in Italian, for example, would have to affirm the understanding of Church as it was known in the 12th to 16th century. This would be the Novus Ordo Mass having the ecclesiology of the Roman Missal of the 16th century. This would be the Roman Missal used in the SSPX chapel.
CARDINALS ROCHE, SARAH AND ARINZE ARE IRRATIONAL
It is only because Cardinal Arthur Roche interprets Vatican Council II irrationally that there is ‘a new Magisterium’ for him. It is his irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, by confusing what is invisible as being visible, that he is able to produce a rupture with Tradition.
Now Cardinal Sarah and Cardinal Francis Arinze’ Holy Mass in Italian is based upon the false interpretation of Magisterial Documents ( Creeds, Councils etc) and so there is a false rupture with Tradition, including the Missal used by the SSPX today.
SENTAGNE CANNOT CORRECT THE CARDINALS
The SSPX District Superior, Fr. Louis Sentagne cannot ask Cardinals Sarah, Arinze and Roche to come back to Tradition and interpret the Council rationally - since he himself is interpreting the Council irrationally.
MAINLINE CHURCH'S INNOVATION DEPENDS UPON VATICAN COUNCIL II (IRRATIONAL).
In the main line Church in Rome they give the Eucharist to the divorced and remarried, women living with non Christians and to non Christians in general who come up to receive the Eucharist. This is because Vatican Council II is seen as a break with Tradition. When Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition for the SSPX priests even, then in the main line Church they ask, why cannot they innovate on faith and morals. This creates division in the Church and the SSPX supports it.
TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF VATICAN COUNCIL II
It is important to note, that there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational. The majority of people interpret Vatican Council II irrationally. Even the popes, cardinals, bishops and priests in general, interpret LG 8, 14 and 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, irrationally. They confuse these invisible cases as being visible in the present times. With this false premise there is a false non traditional conclusion. So the New Theology says outside the Church there is known salvation; there is salvation..-Lionel Andrades
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JUNE 20, 2023
Don Louis Sentagne and Don Federico Montani who offer the Latin Mass at the chapel of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) in Rome are not saying that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical, theoretical, speculative and invisible cases in 1965-2023.This puts an end to so much of non-sense we have been hearing for a long time - the propaganda in the name of the Latin Mass.
Don Louis Sentagne and Don Federico Montani who offer the Latin Mass at the chapel of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) in Rome are not saying that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical, theoretical, speculative and invisible cases in 1965-2023.
This puts an end to so much of non-sense we have been hearing for a long time - the propaganda in the name of the Latin Mass.
Did Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre make a mistake? Of course, he did. It was the common mistake of the liberals in The 1949 Letter of the Holy Office(CDF) to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney (LOHO-Letter of the Holy Office).The mistake was repeated at Vatican Council II. Cardinal Ratzinger did not correct it.
All the books on Vatican Council II at the SSPX libraries are wrongly interpreting LG 8, 14, 16 etc, as being non hypothetical, non theoretical, non speculative and visible cases in 1965-2023. So the Council has produced exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX etc.
It is with this false reasoning; with the invisible- people- are- visible premise and inference that Michael Matt, Peter Kwasniewski, Roberto dei Mattei, Taylor Marshall, John Henry Weston, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Cardinal Raymond Burke, the late Fr. Nicholas Gruner,John Venari,Michal Davies, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Bishops Pivarunas and Sanborn, and the SSPX bishops have interpreted the Council. They chose the irrational option which produces a rupture with Tradition.
But the homilies at the SSPX chapel in Rome are authentic and real. They still are Catholic. This is because the SSPX priests go back to Tradition and ignore Vatican Council II, which they interpret irrationally like the rest of the Church.
If you go to an SSPX Mass and hear the sermon you can still save your soul from Hell. Since the priests speaks about sin, God’s Judgment and Hell.He does not have to choose the new moral theology based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.
Last Sunday Father Louis Sentagne spoke about mortal sin and the person being automatically excommunicated and on the way to Hell. Sentagne, the District Superior of the SSPX in Italy, said this was the case of someone who is a Freemason.
He was speaking about Silvio Berlusconi, who admitted being a Mason and was married and divorced many times.Yet he was given a funeral Mass in the cathedral of Milan.
Father Louis Sentagne can speak like this since he is not limited like in the mainline Novus Ordo Church. He does not have to adapt to aa new moral theology based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.
There is also a new salvation theology in the mainline Catholic Church. Last Sunday at the Augustinian Recollect church, Sant Ildefonso and Tomasso Villanova, Rome, the young priest said salvation through Jesus is open for all. This is true. But it is only the first part of the teaching. He did not say that to receive this salvation all must believe in Jesus in the Catholic Church. He could not say that there was exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. Since he interprets LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being known non Catholics saved outside the Church. He also accepts the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance as being practical and objective exceptions for Feeneyite EENS, as mentioned wrongly in the 1949 LOHO. So he is restricted by Vatican Council II irrational, unlike the SSPX priests, who also interpret the Council irrationally like him, but reject the non traditional and heretical conclusion. He accepts it.
The Augustinian Recollect priest and the SSPX priests could stay with Tradition by interpreting Vatican Council II rationally like me i.e. LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, always refer to only hypothetical cases.They return to the old ecumenism.
So the non Catholic youth at the ecumenical meeting on Sept 30 in Rome are outside the Catholic Church according to Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) are oriented to Hell without Catholic faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. This is the Concliar teaching. It is the pre and post Vatican Council II teaching. It is not just Tradition from the 12th to 16th century.
Those who follow Martin Luther will go to Hell said Padre Pio. He is cited in an article by Fr. Stefano Mannelli ffi, in the magazine IL Settimanale di Padre Pio published by the Franciscans of the Immaculate.1 The Catholic Church has not retracted the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation says an article in the FFI publication, Christ to the World.This is a missionary magazine, in different languages, whose distribution has been blocked by the Rome Vicariate. - Lionel Andrades
1
https://catholicforum.forumotion.com/t1013-padre-pio-said-that-martin-luther-is-in-hell-says-founder-of-franciscans-of-the-immaculate
https://marysarmy742128112.wordpress.com/2020/07/29/blessed-maria-serafina-saw-martin-luther-in-hell/
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https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-sspx-must-stop-publishing-magazines.html
Don Louis Sentagne and Don Federico Montani who offer the Latin Mass at the chapel of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) in Rome are not saying that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical, theoretical, speculative and invisible cases in 1965-2023.
This puts an end to so much of non-sense we have been hearing for a long time - the propaganda in the name of the Latin Mass.
Did Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre make a mistake? Of course, he did. It was the common mistake of the liberals in The 1949 Letter of the Holy Office(CDF) to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney (LOHO-Letter of the Holy Office).The mistake was repeated at Vatican Council II. Cardinal Ratzinger did not correct it.
All the books on Vatican Council II at the SSPX libraries are wrongly interpreting LG 8, 14, 16 etc, as being non hypothetical, non theoretical, non speculative and visible cases in 1965-2023. So the Council has produced exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX etc.
It is with this false reasoning; with the invisible- people- are- visible premise and inference that Michael Matt, Peter Kwasniewski, Roberto dei Mattei, Taylor Marshall, John Henry Weston, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Cardinal Raymond Burke, the late Fr. Nicholas Gruner,John Venari,Michal Davies, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Bishops Pivarunas and Sanborn, and the SSPX bishops have interpreted the Council. They chose the irrational option which produces a rupture with Tradition.
But the homilies at the SSPX chapel in Rome are authentic and real. They still are Catholic. This is because the SSPX priests go back to Tradition and ignore Vatican Council II, which they interpret irrationally like the rest of the Church.
If you go to an SSPX Mass and hear the sermon you can still save your soul from Hell. Since the priests speaks about sin, God’s Judgment and Hell.He does not have to choose the new moral theology based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.
Last Sunday Father Louis Sentagne spoke about mortal sin and the person being automatically excommunicated and on the way to Hell. Sentagne, the District Superior of the SSPX in Italy, said this was the case of someone who is a Freemason.
He was speaking about Silvio Berlusconi, who admitted being a Mason and was married and divorced many times.Yet he was given a funeral Mass in the cathedral of Milan.
Father Louis Sentagne can speak like this since he is not limited like in the mainline Novus Ordo Church. He does not have to adapt to aa new moral theology based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.
There is also a new salvation theology in the mainline Catholic Church. Last Sunday at the Augustinian Recollect church, Sant Ildefonso and Tomasso Villanova, Rome, the young priest said salvation through Jesus is open for all. This is true. But it is only the first part of the teaching. He did not say that to receive this salvation all must believe in Jesus in the Catholic Church. He could not say that there was exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. Since he interprets LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being known non Catholics saved outside the Church. He also accepts the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance as being practical and objective exceptions for Feeneyite EENS, as mentioned wrongly in the 1949 LOHO. So he is restricted by Vatican Council II irrational, unlike the SSPX priests, who also interpret the Council irrationally like him, but reject the non traditional and heretical conclusion. He accepts it.
The Augustinian Recollect priest and the SSPX priests could stay with Tradition by interpreting Vatican Council II rationally like me i.e. LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, always refer to only hypothetical cases.They return to the old ecumenism.
So the non Catholic youth at the ecumenical meeting on Sept 30 in Rome are outside the Catholic Church according to Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) are oriented to Hell without Catholic faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. This is the Concliar teaching. It is the pre and post Vatican Council II teaching. It is not just Tradition from the 12th to 16th century.
Those who follow Martin Luther will go to Hell said Padre Pio. He is cited in an article by Fr. Stefano Mannelli ffi, in the magazine IL Settimanale di Padre Pio published by the Franciscans of the Immaculate.1 The Catholic Church has not retracted the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation says an article in the FFI publication, Christ to the World.This is a missionary magazine, in different languages, whose distribution has been blocked by the Rome Vicariate. - Lionel Andrades
1
https://catholicforum.forumotion.com/t1013-padre-pio-said-that-martin-luther-is-in-hell-says-founder-of-franciscans-of-the-immaculate
https://marysarmy742128112.wordpress.com/2020/07/29/blessed-maria-serafina-saw-martin-luther-in-hell/
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https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-sspx-must-stop-publishing-magazines.html
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