Monday, May 16, 2022

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria could begin a dialogue with the sedevacantists CMRI and MHFM and invite them into the Church, as he did for the SSPX. Since with Vatican Council II (rational) there is no more reason to remain in sedevacantism because of the Council.

 

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria could begin a dialogue with the sedevacantists CMRI and MHFM and invite them into the Church, as he did for the SSPX. Since with Vatican Council II (rational) there is no more reason to remain in sedevacantism because of the Council.

When the Council is interpreted with the Rational Premise it supports the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition.

Presently the SSPX, CMRI and others seem being outside the Church, since the present two popes are interpreting Vatican Council II with a False Premise and creating a false rupture with Tradition.The problem lies at Vatican. The MHFM and CMRI affirm Tradition and reject Vatican Council II interpreted with the False Premise, and yet they are made to seem, by the media etc, as being in schism etc.They are correct when they reject Vatican Council II interpreted with the False Premise. Howver there is a rational option now available for them.

But with Vatican Council II (rational) now available, it is the popes who seem to be in schism with the past Magisterium – and also in a rupture with Vatican Council II (rational).

They contradict the past Magisterium on Magisterial Documents ( Creeds, Catechism etc) but they also contradict Vatican Council II, rational.

There are no practical exceptions for the past ecclesiocenterism in Vatican Council II when LG 8. LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are seen as being only theoretical and hypothetical cases in 2022. They do not contradict the Catechism of Pope Pius X (24 Q, 27Q).So the CMRI and MHFM can accept Vatican Council II (rational) once Cardinal Luiz Ladaria and the present two popes do the same.

When the popes interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise it is not magisterial. The Holy Spirit cannot make an objective mistake and also at the same time contradict the past Magisterium.Presently they are not Magisterial on Vatican Council II.How can grown up and responsible men use the Fake Premise ?

When they interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise, they will have corrected themselves, and then they will be in harmony with the past Magisterium. There will be the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition.

In the diocese of Manchester, USA, the CDF and the Judicial Vicar have placed sanctions on the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire and have stopped the Latin Mass at their chapel. But if the Curia in the diocese interprets Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise they would have to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, as held by Brother Andre Marie micm, and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Similarly lay writers in New Hampshire Damien and Simcha Fischer criticize the St. Benedict Center and the religious community there because of their traditional strict interpretation of the dogma EENS. However if the Fischers interpreted Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise, there would be no practical exceptions mentioned in the Council-text for EENS, according to the missionaries in the 16th century. They could go over to the SBC in Richmond, New Hampshire and discuss how they have so much in common in theology and doctrine.

Similarly if Fr. Georges de Laire the Judicial Vicar in the diocese of Manchester, who has placed sanctions on the SBC, would interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise, he would be affirming EENS like Brother Andre Marie micm, and would be eligible for the same sanctions. It would be the same  with Cardinal Luiz Ladaria. With the Rational Premise he would be a missionary like the Jesuits in the Middle Ages, who affirmed traditional ecclesiocentrism.  -Lionel Andrades

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MAY 5, 2022

If Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise then the Council becomes Traditional and he supports Tradition and the Catholic Church becomes Traditional

 If Pope Francis pinterprets Vc2 with the Rational Premise then the Council becomes Traditional and he supports Tradition, and the Church becomes Traditional.- Lionel Andrades 

WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF 

VATICAN COUNCIL II : YOURS AND MINE


Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.

Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter : @LionelAndrades1

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