Friday, October 1, 2021
With the irrational premise the Nicene Creed is changed. So our Profession of Faith has to be different ( Graphics )
-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 10, 2016
-Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/there-are-two-interpretations-of-nicene.html
need for all to formally enter the Church.It assumes that the baptism of desire etc are not hypothetical but objectively known.In principle hypothetical cases are objective in the present times.
-Lionel Andrades
FALSE PREMISE DEFINED
Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible.
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.
With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
With the irrational premise of the Red Right Hand Side Column, the Athanasius Creed is changed : Popes, Cardinals and Bishops use the irrational column
-Lionel Andrades
OCTOBER 1, 2021
Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall chose the Blue Left Hand Side Rational Column to interpret the Baptism of Desire (LG 14). The Ecclesia Dei communities can also interpret Vatican Council II rationally ( Graphics )
-Lionel Andrades
OCTOBER 1, 2021
Ecclesia Dei communities demand that Bishop Roland Minnerath be rational. With the Red Right Hand Side Column he and Pope Francis create official heresy. This is schism with the past Magisterium ( Graphics )
Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall have found the Specific Error in Vatican Council II.They now know what creates the New Theology and the break with Tradition.It is the False Premise.
There are no literal and visible cases of the Baptism of Desire said Bishop Athanasius Schneider.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr.Taylor Marshall chose the Blue Left Hand Side Rational Column. The Ecclesia Dei communities must do the same and demand that Bishop Roland Minnerath also interpret Vatican Council II with the rational column.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall chose the Blue Left Hand Side Rational Column to interpret the Baptism of Desire (LG 14). The Ecclesia Dei communities can also interpret Vatican Council II rationally ( Graphics )
-Lionel Andrades
OCTOBER 1, 2021
Ecclesia Dei communities demand that Bishop Roland Minnerath be rational. With the Red Right Hand Side Column he and Pope Francis create official heresy. This is schism with the past Magisterium ( Graphics )
Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall have found the Specific Error in Vatican Council II.They now know what creates the New Theology and the break with Tradition.It is the False Premise.
There are no literal and visible cases of the Baptism of Desire said Bishop Athanasius Schneider.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr.Taylor Marshall chose the Blue Left Hand Side Rational Column. The Ecclesia Dei communities must do the same and demand that Bishop Roland Minnerath also interpret Vatican Council II with the rational column.
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