Saturday, September 22, 2018
Lumen Gentium 8 and BOD,BOB and I.I are hypothetical and theoretical and are not exceptions to the dogma EENS. Yet for Bishop Keven Rhoades they are exceptions.This is a big mistake of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee Chairman
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee makes an error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
In his recent radio program he cites Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth', as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.
This is irrational.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth'.
2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there are physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.
3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will, something hoped for.
Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to the dogma no salvation outside the Church.
MISTAKE ON EENS TOO
Similarly he will not affirm EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
He made a mistake again.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). We cannot see or meet any one saved as such in 2018 or over the last 100 years.The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither do the popes and saints claim they are.The Catechism of Pope Pius X mentions being saved in invincible ignorance and does not state that it refers to someone known. Similtaneously this Catechism says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and it does not mention any exceptions.
3.In general people will say that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases.
So Lumen Gentium 8 and BOD,BOB and I.I are hypothetical and theoretical and are not exceptions to the dogma EENS.
Yet for Bishop Keven Rhoades they are exceptions.This is a big mistake.
-Lionel Andrades
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee makes an error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
In his recent radio program he cites Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth', as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.
This is irrational.
Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to the dogma no salvation outside the Church.
MISTAKE ON EENS TOO
Similarly he will not affirm EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
He made a mistake again.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). We cannot see or meet any one saved as such in 2018 or over the last 100 years.The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither do the popes and saints claim they are.The Catechism of Pope Pius X mentions being saved in invincible ignorance and does not state that it refers to someone known. Similtaneously this Catechism says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and it does not mention any exceptions.
3.In general people will say that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases.
So Lumen Gentium 8 and BOD,BOB and I.I are hypothetical and theoretical and are not exceptions to the dogma EENS.
Yet for Bishop Keven Rhoades they are exceptions.This is a big mistake.
-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 22, 2018
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-supports-traditional.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
Bishop who interprets Vatican Council II and outside the Church with no salvation with irrational Cushingism instead of traditional Feeneyism is the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-who-interprets-vatican-council.html
SEPTEMBER 16, 2018
Cardinal Donald Wuerl and the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, chaired by Archbishop William E.Lori, made an objective error in the Notification on Fr. Peter C.Phan http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/cardinal-donald-wuerl-and-usccb.htmlSEPTEMBER 14, 2018
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it.
Bishop Rhoades, like his predecessor Donald Wuerl as the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee is maintaining the duplicity on Vatican Council II and no one is complaining.
Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth' in other religions does not refer to known people saved outside the Catholic Church. It is not an example of salvation outside the Church.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with elements of sanctification and truth.
2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.
3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will, something hoped for.
Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to o salvation outside the Church.
We can respect non Catholics, we can treat them with dignity we can even serve them in love as Jesus wants us to do so but in charity we must tell them the truth i.e Nostra Aetate no where contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
Literally we cannot know of any exception to EENS.
The text of Nostra Aetate does not state that there are practically known exceptions to EENS.
Nostra Aetate 2 refers to a hyopthetical case when it refers to ' a ray of that Truth which enlightens'. This is an abstract reference.
A theoretical possibility, a hope of someone being saved outside the Church is not an actual and known case. So it cannot be an objective example of salvation outside the Church.
It is the same with Lumen Gentium and Ad Gentes, they do not contradict the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century.
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it.-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
MARCH 14, 2018
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