Sunday, April 16, 2023

SSPX conspiracy on Vatican Council II

 


Pope Benedict excommunicated Bishop Richard Williamson and Fr. Florian Abrahamowich for political reasons. He was following the orders of the Jewish Anti Defamation League(ADL).Bishop Bernard Fellay also expelled Williamson and Abrahamowich  to appease the Jewish Left and protect the SSPX’s temporal interests. Pope Benedict and Bishop Fellay also interpreted Vatican Council II with, and not without, the Boston Heresy of Pius XII, Cardinal Richard Cushing and the American Jesuits. This was political. It still is political-left for Fr. Davide Pagliarani the SSPX Superior General, who does not interpret the Council rationally.

In general the books on Vatican Council II, published by the Angelus Press, like those Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Fr. Franz Schmidberger were political and dishonest. Since the Boston Heresy produces a fake break with Tradition. This can be avoided. But may be they were just ignorant. There was no ill will.

The books by Christopher Ferrara, Roberto dei Mattei, Fr. Jean Marie Gleize, Fr. Francois Laisney, Christina Siccardi and many others, chose to interpret the Council irrationally. This was probably due to ignorance.

But there are many supporters of the SSPX who are informed and yet they interpret the Council irrationally and not rationally.

Taylor Marshall and Eric Sammons are looking after their family interests. Since affirming the Council rationally would be considered Anti Semitic. So they choose to interpret Vatican Council II with the Boston Heresy. They choose to confuse what is invisible as being visible.

Louie Verrecchio says he has a family to support. So he will interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as referring to physically visible and not invisible cases in 1949-2023.

Like Bishop Robert Barron and Pope Francis who know about the rational option, they will allow Catholics to remain in ignorance.

Archbishop Carlo Vigano is a rich man and so if he is labeled Anti Semitic, he will be expelled from the Church and his financial freedom will be restricted.

Fr. John Zuhlsdorf and Michael Voris like the SSPX are prudent on Vatican Council II.

The American bishops of the USCCB in its inter-religious programs do not inform non Catholics that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc., can be interpreted as being only hypothetical and so not practical exceptions for Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). 

The excommunication of Fr. Leonard Feeney was lifted during his lifetime without him having to recant. He simply had to recite the Creed and he chose the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation.

EWTN apologists like Raymond Arroyo like the American bishops do not state that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, do not really contradict the Athanasius Creed and EENS according to Fr. Leonard Feeney. Instead there is continuity with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechisms of Pius X and Trent, on traditional EENS.

So if EWTN and Pope Francis and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj interpreted Vatican Council II rationally there would no more be liberalism in the Catholic Church.

Instead liberalism was supported when Archbishop Augustine di Noia and Archbishop Giacomo Morandi issued a Decree of Prohibitions against the St. Benedict Center in New Hampshire, for not interpreting the Catechism of the Catholic Church (847-848 on invincible ignorance) irrationally. Their error is there in public on the website of the Diocese of Manchester, USA. This is the communication with Brother Andre Marie micm. This is public heresy and schism and it is official and political.

For the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance) is an objective case in the present times. It is an alleged practical example of salvation outside the Catholic Church. So the strict interpretation of EENS of the St. Benedict Center, NH, is obsolete for the CDF, as it was for Pope Benedict.

So when the SSPX say that they reject Vatican Council II, they prudently do not clarify that they reject the Council with LG 8 etc, being hypothetical only. If the SSPX said that LG 8 etc do not refer to objective cases in the present times (1965-2023) they would be rational and honest. But they will be opposed by the ADL.


Even Pope Pius XII and Archbishop Lefebvre chose to be irrational and political when they accepted the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston. So the SSPX interprets Vatican Council II like Bishop Robert Barron.

So now we have two interpretations of Vatican Council II. We have the interpretation of the SSPX, with the false premise and we have the interpretation of the St. Benedict Center, NH, without the false premise. The SSPX, like the conservative blogs like Rorate Caeili are keeping Catholics in ignorance and are not telling them about the rational option they have in the interpretation of Vatican Council.

The conspiracy continues.

- Lionel Andrades





APRIL 15, 2023


Bishop Fellay remains part of the conspiracy on Vatican Council II
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/04/bishop-fellay-remains-part-of.html

Restrictions on reading the Bible at church in Rome

 

Muslim police have been demanding that Catholics who interpret Vatican Council II rationally not be allowed to do the Readings in church. Since the Council would then be in harmony with the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).So these Catholics, who accept the Council but interpret it without the false premise and inference, are not allowed to do the First and Second Reading at Holy Mass in Italian.The restrictions are there at the church San Ildefonso e Tomasso di Villanova, Via Sistina, Rome since lay Muslim activists are a threat.They are offended when the Catholic Church in Vatican Council II (AG 7) says all need faith and the baptism of water for salvation ( to avoid Hell).

On Easter Sunday, the Readings were done by two religious sisters. They were Sister Mirella, the Superior of the Institute of Our Lady of Lourdes and a young Dominican sister.

Over the last few years there have been threats from different groups of Muslim activists and the regular evening Mass at the church has been cancelled.

Usually, there are two lay men who do the Readings in this church.

Sister Mirella and the Sisters of Our Lady of Lourdes, who have a convent and hostel for guests, down the road, overlooking Piazza Spagna, know that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (AG 7/LG 14, CCC 845,846 etc) are in harmony with the Athanasius Creed and the past Councils (1215 and 1442).So the Catholic Church in the past and present teaches that there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church. She is also aware of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, being only hypothetical cases. They are not visible examples of salvation outside the Church. So they do not contradict the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) or Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14.

So for her Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are saying that other religions are not paths to salvation.There is exclusive salvation in only Jesus and in the Catholic Church, His Mystical Body. This is also the view of the lay Catholics, including relatives of one of the lay lectors, at this Augustinian Recollect church in central Rome, which is a three minute walk to the famous Capuchin Crypt, follow the Catechism of the the Catholic Church.

For now, lay Catholics , who openly affirm in public, the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 ( outside the Church there is no salvation) which is based on John 3:5 and Mark 16:16 in the Bible are restricted. They are not allowed to read the Bible, in the Mass Readings.This is being done to appease non Catholic activists and the police.  - Lionel Andrades


MARCH 20, 2023

An Augustinian Recollect priest at the church Sant Ildefonso e Tomasso Villanova, via Sistina, Rome, yesterday agreed with me. He said Vatican Council II has a continuity with the past.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/an-augustinian-recollect-priest-at.html


MARCH 20, 2023

Un sacerdote Agostiniano Recolletto della chiesa di Sant Ildefonso e Tomasso Villanova, via Sistina, Roma, ieri sono era in accordo con me. Ha detto che il Concilio Vaticano II ha una continuità con il passato.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/un-sacerdote-agostiniano-recolletto.html

 MARCH 20, 2023

Un prêtre Augustin Récollet de l'église Sant Ildefonso e Tomasso Villanova, via Sistina, Rome, était hier d'accord avec moi. Il a dit que le Concile Vatican II a une continuité avec le passé

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/un-pretre-augustin-recollet-de-leglise.html


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MARCH 11, 2023

Sister Eli Benatti

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/sister-eli-benatti.html

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MARCH 20, 2023

Ein Augustiner-Rekollekten priester der kirche Sant Ildefonso e Tomasso Villanova, Via Sistina, Rom, stimmte mir gestern zu. Er sagte, das Zweite Vatikanische Konzil habe eine Kontinuität mit der Vergangenheit.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/ein-augustiner-rekollekten-priester-der.html





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JANUARY 15, 2023



Catholics in the police, carabinieri and Ministry of Interior in Italy affirm Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church just like me- just like the Augustinian Recollect priests in Rome

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/01/catholics-in-police-carabinieri-and.html

APRIL 10, 2023

I have said it before. Everyone agrees with me. I am only being rational. I affirm the official teachings of the Church. I am faithful to the Magisteriuim. Only when Magisterial Documents are interpreted ethically that they can be Magisterial Magisterial Documents can only be interpreted rationally. This is ethical. There is no liberalism in what I say.

 

APRIL 2, 2023

I have said it before. Everyone agrees with me


I have said it before. Everyone agrees with me.

At Holy Mass in Italian or Latin everyone agrees with me. I could show them these three charts and they all will agree with me.

1)         Salvation  Badge (extended)

2)       Invisible cases in Vatican Council II.

3) Exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church today.

So they are all Feeneyite on extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). They support, as Catholics, the dogma EENS defined by the Fourth Lateran Council (1215),the Council of Florence, Cantate Domino (1442), the Catechism of Pius X and the other catechisms, the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX, Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church of Pope John Paul II, interpreted rationally.

They would all agree with me at the Latin Mass at the SSPX chapel in Rome or the Salesian basilica of the Sacred Heart, Termini, Rome. They would agree with me at the Paulist Fathers’ church of St. Patrick, for the American community in Rome. It would be the same at the Daughters of St. Paul book shop near the Vatican and the FSSP church in Rome.

So irrespective if they used the 1962 Missal or the New Missal they would agree with me on these three documents above.

Why? Since I am saying something obvious. It is common knowledge. It is common sense. It is a philosophical observation. It is something physically see by all people irrespective of their theology or religion. So even Pope Francis and all the cardinals and bishops would have to agree with me. All.

The whole Church is really saying the same

thing as me. There is no division on this issue.

This is not a personal view only. It is

everyone’s view. Even the cardinals and

bishops at the Vatican agree with me. - Lionel Andrades


 

          1.           SALVATION BADGE (Extended)


FUORI DELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA 

NON C’E SALVEZZA

(OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION)

GIOV.3:5, MC.16:16

(JOHN 3:5, MARK 16:16)

CONCILIO VATICANO II (AG7/LG14)

(VATICAN COUNCIL II (Ad Gentes 7/ Lumen Gentes 14)

CATECHISMO DELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA (846)

(CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 846)

CATECHISMO DEL TRENTO, CATECHISMO DEL PAPA PIO X,

(CATECHISM OF TRENT, CATECHISM OF POPE PIUS X)

CONCILIO LATERANO (1215), CONCILIO DI FIRENZE (1442)

(FOURTH LATERAN COUNCIL (1215), COUNCIL OF FLORENCE (1442))

Name: Lionel Andrades https://twitter.com/AndradesLionel E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Blog: eucharistandmission ( Lionel’s blog).           

IL BATTESIMO DI DESIDERIO (BOD), IL BATTESIMO DI SANGUE (BOB) E L'ESSERE SALVATI NELL'INVINCIBILE IGNORANZA (I.I) SONO SEMPRE CASI IPOTETICI E FISICAMENTE INVISIBILI. QUINDI NON CONTRADIDONO IL DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS (EENS).IL BOD, BOB E I.I NON SONO PERSONE CONOSCIUTE NEI CASI PERSONALI. NON CI SONO CASI FISICAMENTE VISIBILI DI ESSERE SALVATI NELL'INVINCIBILE IGNORANZA. QUINDI NON SONO ECCEZIONI OGGETTIVE PER IL DOGMA EENS NEL 1965-2023.AD GENTES 7 E LUMEN GENTIUM 14 SOSTENGONO IL DOGMA EENS .LG 8,14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 ETC NON SONO ECCEZIONI PRATICHE PER AG 7/ LG 14 E IL DOGMA EENS. IL CONCILIO HA L'ERMENEUTICA DELLA CONTINUITÀ CON IL PROGRAMMA DEGLI ERRORI, IL CREDO DI ATANASIO E IL CATECHISMO DI PAPA PIO X (24Q,27Q).

THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE (BOD), BAPTISM OF BLOOD(BOB) AND BEING SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE (I.I) ARE ALWAYS HYPOTHETICAL AND PHYSICALLY INVISIBLE CASES. SO THEY DO NOT CONTRADICT THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS (EENS).THE BOD, BOB AND I.I ARE  NOT KNOWN PEOPLE IN PERSONAL CASES. THERE ARE NO PHYSICALLY VISIBLE CASES OF BEING SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE.SO THEY ARE NOT OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EENS IN 1965-2023.AD GENTES 7 AND LUMEN GENTIUM 14 SUPPORT THE DOGMA EENS .LG 8,14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 ETC ARE NOT PRACTICAL EXCEPTIONS FOR  AG 7/ LG 14 AND THE DOGMA EENS. THE COUNCIL HAS THE HERMENEUTIC OF CONTINUITY WITH THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND THE CATECHISM OF POPE PIUS X ( 24Q,27Q).


SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA   ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH



       2.           INVISIBLE CASES

THESE ARE REFERENCES TO INVISIBE CASES IN 2023. THEY ARE NOT VISIBLE EXAMPLES OF SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH. THEY ARE NOT OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS OF POPE PIUS IX.

This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II

 Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

 Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…

… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men– Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II

     


2.CASI INVISIBILE

(LG8,LG14,GS 22, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2 etc)

QUESTI SONO RIFERIMENTI A CASI INVISIBILI NEL 2023. NON SONO ESEMPI VISIBILI DI SALVEZZA FUORI DALLA CHIESA. NON SONO ECCEZIONI OGGETTIVE PER IL DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, IL CREDO DI ATANASIO E IL SILLABO  DEGLI ERRORI DI PAPA PIO IX.

Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II.

Questa Chiesa, in questo mondo costituita e organizzata come società, sussiste nella Chiesa cattolica, governata dal successore di Pietro e dai vescovi in comunione con lui [13], ancorché al di fuori del suo organismo si trovino parecchi elementi di santificazione e di verità, che, appartenendo propriamente per dono di Dio alla Chiesa di Cristo, spingono verso l'unità cattolica. -  Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II.

Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.

I catecumeni che per impulso dello Spirito Santo desiderano ed espressamente vogliono essere incorporati alla Chiesa, vengono ad essa congiunti da questo stesso desiderio, e la madre Chiesa li avvolge come già suoi con il proprio amore e con le proprie cure.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.

Gaudium et Specs 22

E ciò vale non solamente per i cristiani, ma anche per tutti gli uomini di buona volontà, nel cui cuore lavora invisibilmente la grazia (39). Cristo, infatti, è morto per tutti (40) e la vocazione ultima dell'uomo è effettivamente una sola, quella divina; perciò dobbiamo ritenere che lo Spirito Santo dia a tutti la possibilità di venire associati, nel modo che Dio conosce, al mistero pasquale.-Gaudium et Specs 22


3. EXCLUSIVE SALVATION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TODAY

14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism124 and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church…- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 845-846

845 To reunite all his children, scattered and led astray by sin, the Father willed to call the whole of humanity together into his Son's Church. The Church is the place where humanity must rediscover its unity and salvation. The Church is "the world reconciled." She is that bark which "in the full sail of the Lord's cross, by the breath of the Holy Spirit, navigates safely in this world." According to another image dear to the Church Fathers, she is prefigured by Noah's ark, which alone saves from the flood.- Catechism of the Catholic Church

 846 …Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door…

 Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.-Athanasius Creed

 Fourth Lateran Council (1215): "There is but one  universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved."

ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH   SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA

 SALVEZZA ESCLUSIVA NELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA

14. Il santo Concilio si rivolge quindi prima di tutto ai fedeli cattolici. Esso, basandosi sulla sacra Scrittura e sulla tradizione, insegna che questa Chiesa peregrinante è necessaria alla salvezza. Solo il Cristo, infatti, presente in mezzo a noi nel suo corpo che è la Chiesa, è il mediatore e la via della salvezza; ora egli stesso, inculcando espressamente la necessità della fede e del battesimo (cfr. Gv 3,5), ha nello stesso tempo confermato la necessità della Chiesa, nella quale gli uomini entrano per il battesimo come per una porta. Perciò non possono salvarsi quegli uomini, i quali, pur non ignorando che la Chiesa cattolica è stata fondata da Dio per mezzo di Gesù Cristo come necessaria, non vorranno entrare in essa o in essa perseverare.-Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

È dunque necessario che tutti si convertano al Cristo conosciuto attraverso la predicazione della Chiesa, ed a lui e alla Chiesa, suo corpo, siano incorporati attraverso il battesimo (39). Cristo stesso infatti, « ribadendo espressamente la necessità della fede e del battesimo (cfr. Mc 16,16; Gv 3,5), ha confermato simultaneamente la necessità della Chiesa, nella quale gli uomini entrano, per così dire, attraverso la porta del battesimo.- Ad Gentes 7, Concilio Vaticano II.

 

CATECHISMO DELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA 845-846

845 Proprio per riunire di nuovo tutti i suoi figli, dispersi e sviati dal peccato, il Padre ha voluto convocare l'intera umanità nella Chiesa del Figlio suo. La Chiesa è il luogo in cui l'umanità deve ritrovare l'unità e la salvezza. È il « mondo riconciliato ». È la nave che, « pleno dominicae crucis velo Sancti Spiritus flatu in hoc bene navigat mundo – spiegate le vele della croce del Signore al soffio dello Spirito Santo, naviga sicura in questo mondo »; secondo un'altra immagine, cara ai Padri della Chiesa, è l'arca di Noè che, sola, salva dal diluvio. 

«Fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza»

846 Come bisogna intendere questa affermazione spesso ripetuta dai Padri della Chiesa? Formulata in modo positivo, significa che ogni salvezza viene da Cristo-Capo per mezzo della Chiesa che è il suo corpo:

Il santo Concilio « insegna, appoggiandosi sulla Sacra Scrittura e sulla Tradizione, che questa Chiesa pellegrinante è necessaria alla salvezza. Infatti solo Cristo, presente per noi nel suo corpo, che è la Chiesa, è il Mediatore e la Via della salvezza; ora egli, inculcando espressamente la necessità della fede e del Battesimo, ha insieme confermato la necessità della Chiesa, nella quale gli uomini entrano mediante il Battesimo come per la porta. Perciò non potrebbero salvarsi quegli uomini, i quali, non ignorando che la Chiesa cattolica è stata da Dio per mezzo di Gesù Cristo fondata come necessaria, non avessero tuttavia voluto entrare in essa o in essa perseverare”.- Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica 845-846

Chiunque si salverà, prima di tutto è necessario che abbia la fede Cattolica. Quale fede, a meno che ognuno non si mantenga integro e incontaminato, senza dubbio perirà in eterno. - Athanasius Creed

Non c'è ma una Chiesa universale dei fedeli, al di fuori della quale nessuno si salva". - Concilio Lateranense IV (1215)