Wednesday, June 14, 2023
Pope Francis was interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and dishonestly when he closed the Holy Mother of God seminary in the Argentine diocese of San Rafael, in the province of Mendoza.There is no denial from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.
The frank exchange — spelled out in letters obtained
by ACI Prensa, CNA’s Spanish-language sister news agency — sheds new light on
the Vatican’s controversial closure of Holy Mother of God Seminary in November
2020, and the resulting tension that still plagues the Argentine Diocese of San
Rafael.
The seminary controversy
The San Rafael
seminary, located in the province of Mendoza, was one of the most successful in
Argentina and all of Latin America, with many vocations.
It figured
prominently in tensions that developed in mid-2020 between some priests and
faithful of the diocese and its bishop at the time, Eduardo María Taussig.
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251925/pope-francis-letter-to-priest-argentina-seminary
Pope Francis was interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and dishonestly when he closed the Holy Mother of God seminary in the Argentine diocese of San Rafael, in the province of Mendoza.There is no denial from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.
He also was interpreting Vatican Council II with the fake premise and
inference to produce a false break with Tradition, when he closed the Franciscan
Friars of the Immaculate seminary in Boccea, Rome, Italy in 2013.He has also
closed thriving religious communities in the South of Italy which had many
vocations.- Lionel Andrades
JUNE 13, 2023
When Pope Francis closed down the seminaries in Argentina and Rome he was interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. So there was a false rupture with the past. He calls that past rigidity. If he interprets Vatican Council II rationally his conclusion would be rigid
Don't we have a place in the Church?’: Read pope’s response to Argentine priest on seminary's closure
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251925/pope-francis-letter-to-priest-argentina-seminary
FEBRUARY 5, 2020
FALSE PREMISE, INFERENCE AND CONCLUSION (GRAPHICS)
NOVEMBER 2, 2016
When an irrational premise is used I refer to it as Cushingism. When there is a rational premise, I refer to it as Feeneyism.
SUNDAY, AUGUST 22, 2021
The mainstream Church is liberal today because of the fake premise. Let them use a rational premise and the liberalism falls off from the whole Church
The mainstream Church is liberal today because of the fake premise. Let them use a rational premise and the liberalism falls off from the whole Church.
Fake premise
Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.
Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.
Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.
Rational Premise
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.
Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.
Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine
of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-
IRRATIONAL PREMISE
The irrational premise is that invisible things or persons are visible.
RATIONAL PREMISE
The rational premise is that invisible things or persons are visible.
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IRRATIONAL PREMISE
The irrational premise is that hypothetical cases are objectively visible in 2021.
RATIONAL PREMISE
The rational premise is that hypothetical cases are objectively invisible in 2021.
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IRRATIONAL PREMISE
The irrational premise is that the baptism of desire refers to personally known cases in 2021.
RATIONAL PREMISE
The rational premise is that the baptism of desire refers to an unknown cases in 2021.There is no personally known case.
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IRRATIONAL PREMISE
The irrational premise is assuming there are objectively seen and known cases of being saved in invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water in 2016.
RATIONAL PREMISE
The rational premise is assuming others (in general) cannot see invisible cases in the present and the past.It is assuming that the baptism of desire refers to an unknown and invisible case in the present or past.
When an irrational premise is used I refer to it as Cushingism.
When there is a rational premise, I refer to it as Feeneyism.Lionel Andrades
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MAY 5, 2022
If Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise then the Council becomes Traditional and he supports Tradition and the Catholic Church becomes Traditional
If Pope Francis pinterprets Vc2 with the Rational Premise then the Council becomes Traditional and he supports Tradition, and the Church becomes Traditional.- Lionel Andrades
WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF
VATICAN COUNCIL II : YOURS AND MINE
Lionel Andrades
Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.
Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?
It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.
Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)
E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com
Twitter : @LionelAndrades1
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If Pope Francis pinterprets Vc2 with the Rational Premise then the Council becomes Traditional and he supports Tradition, and the Church becomes Traditional.- Lionel Andrades
WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF
VATICAN COUNCIL II : YOURS AND MINE
Lionel Andrades
Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.
Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?
It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.
Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)
E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com
Twitter : @LionelAndrades1
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