In parrocchia non abbiamo unità dottrinale sul Primo Comandamento e su i Credo, nella S. Messa recitiamo la Professione di Fede, ma a causa delle due interpretazioni, razionale e irrazionale, le nostre conclusioni, e quindi anche la nostra fede, sono diverse.

Nella mia parrocchia i parrocchiani interpretano il Concilio Vaticano II con una irrazionalità. Usano una falsa premessa per fare del Concilio Vaticano II una rottura con il Credo di Atanasio che dice che tutti hanno bisogno della fede Cattolica per la salvezza. Cambiano la comprensione dei Credo e dei Catechismi e tuttavia viene data l'Eucaristia alla Santa Messa in lingua Italiana.

I Cattolici della parrocchia usano una falsa premessa per interpretare il battesimo del desiderio e dell'ignoranza invincibile e poi rifiutano l'interpretazione rigorosa dell'extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).Viene poi data l'Eucaristia di padri brasiliani Joselitos Christo. Anche loro usano la falsa premessa per interpretare il Concilio Vaticano II e poi rifiutare i documenti del Magistero e Tradizione.

Questo approccio è politico e non cattolico. È disonesto. È stata anche  l'approccio  di don Rosario Sammarco FI, Rettore dei Francescani del Immacolato qui a seminario a Boccea. Negheranno la maggior parte dei documenti Magisteriali, cambiandone il significato con l'uso della falsa premessa, che è approvata dalla sinistra.

Questo è l'atteggiamento generale tra i parrocchiani di oggi.

Ci sono peccati mortali di fede.I parrocchiani devono Confessarsi, ritrattare e affermare la fede in pubblico.

In parrocchia non abbiamo unità dottrinale sul Primo Comandamento e sui Credo, nella S. Messa recitiamo la Professione di Fede, ma a causa delle due interpretazioni, razionale e irrazionale, le nostre conclusioni e quindi anche la nostra fede, sono diverse.

Tutti i gruppi di preghiera a Digione,Francia  interpretano il Concilio Vaticano II con premesse, deduzioni e conclusioni false e creano così una falsa rottura con la Sacra Tradizione Cattolica,  è lo stesso nella mia parrocchia Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Roma nella diocesi di Porta Santa Rufina.

I gruppi di preghiera di Padre Pio, il Nuovo Cammino catecumenale, i Focolari, la Legione di Maria, gli incontri di preghiera e di culto del Movimento di Rinnovamento Carismatico, gli incontri parrocchiali di San Vincenzo de' Paoli, gli incontri di Adorazione Eucaristica di Medugorje, i campi estivi giovanili, i programmi scout ecc. falsa premessa per interpretare il Concilio Vaticano II invece della premessa razionale, inferenza e conclusione.-Lionel Andrades

  

PREMESSA FALSA NELLA PARROCCHIA 

Lumen Gentium 8, Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II si riferiscono a casi fisicamente visibili nel 1965-2021.

 FALSA INFERENZA NELLA PARROCCHIA

 Sono esempi oggettivi di salvezza al di fuori della Chiesa.

CONCLUSIONE FALSA NELLA PARROCCHIA

Il Concilio Vaticano II contraddice l'interpretazione restrittiva del dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).

Ecco la mia interpretazione del Concilio Vaticano II in blu.

PREMESSA RAZIONALE DI LIONEL

LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II si riferiscono a casi fisicamente invisibili nel 1965-2021. Sono solo ipotetici e teorici. Esistono solo nella nostra mente e non sono corpi solidi al livello di tempo, spazio e materia di Newton.

INFERENZA RAZIONALE DI LIONEL

Non sono esempi oggettivi di salvezza al di fuori della Chiesa per noi esseri umani.

CONCLUSIONE RAZIONALE DI LIONEL

Il Concilio Vaticano II non contraddice l'EENS come era interpretato dai Gesuiti nel Medioevo. Non contraddice l'interpretazione rigorosa dell'EENS di San Tommaso d'Aquino (salvato nell'invincibile ignoranza è invisibile), Sant'Agostino e padre Leonard Feeney di Boston.

La Lettera del Sant'Uffizio (Congregazione per la Dottrina della Fede) del 1949 commise un errore oggettivo e utilizzò la premessa, l'inferenza e la conclusione false.

 APPROCCIO A DUE COLONNE

Interpreteresti il ​​Concilio Vaticano II con la colonna di destra o di sinistra?

COLONNA LATO SINISTRO - COLONNA LATO DESTRO

Tutta la salvezza di cui parla il Concilio Vaticano II cioè salvata nell'ignoranza invincibile (LG 16), comunione imperfetta con la Chiesa (UR 3), semi del Verbo (AG 11), cose buone e sante nelle altre religioni (NA 2) ecc. o:

implicito o esplicito per noi.

ipotetico o noto nella realtà.

invisibile o visibile nella carne.

dejure (in linea di principio)

               o di fatto (in effetti).

 

soggettivo o oggettivo.

Quindi si può scegliere dalla colonna di sinistra o di destra.

Se si sceglie la colonna di destra allora il Concilio Vaticano II contraddice il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, il Sillabo degli Errori e della Tradizione in generale sulle altre religioni e comunità e chiese cristiane. Sono note eccezioni nel 2021 al dogma sulla salvezza esclusiva nella Chiesa cattolica. I morti salvati sono visibili.

Se si sceglie la colonna di sinistra, il Concilio Vaticano II non contraddice extra ecclesiam nulla salus, né la Tradizione sulle altre religioni e comunità e chiese cristiane.

La maggior parte delle persone interpreta il Concilio Vaticano II con i valori del lato destro. I sacerdoti e laici parrocchiani e comnunita religiosi, nella parrocchia, usano la colonna irrazionale del lato destro. Quindi c'è una rottura artificiale con la Tradizione (EENS, Syllabus of Errors, ecc.).

Il battesimo del desiderio e l'essere salvati nell'invincibile ignoranza non sono mai stati un'eccezione all'interpretazione letterale di padre Leonard Feeney, a meno che non si utilizzi la colonna di destra.-Lionel Andrades

JULY 6, 2021

In the parish we do not have doctrinal unity on the First Commandment and the Creeds.We recite the Profession of Faith at Holy Mass, but because of the two interpretations, rational and irrational,our conclusions and so also our faith, are different

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/07/in-parish-we-do-not-have-doctrinal.html

In the parish we do not have doctrinal unity on the First Commandment and the Creeds.We recite the Profession of Faith at Holy Mass, but because of the two interpretations, rational and irrational,our conclusions and so also our faith, are different

 

In my parish the parishioners interpret Vatican Council II with an irrationality.They they use a false premise to make Vatican Council II a rupture with the Athanasius Creed which says all need Catholic faith for salvation.They change the understanding of the Creeds and Catechisms and yet they are given the Eucharist at Holy Mass in Italian.

Catholics in the parish use a false premise to interpret the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance  and then reject the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Then they do not have to proclaim the Faith.The go up to receive the Eucharist and it is given to them by the Brazilian Joselitos Christo priests.They also interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and so reject Tradition.Then there is no need for them to proclaim outside the Church there is no salvation.

This approach is political and not Catholic. It is dishonest. It was also the policy of Fr. Rosario Sammarco F.I, the Rector of the Franciscans of the Immaculate Seminary here in Boccea.This month the seminarians of the Franscisans Friars of the Immaculate will be ordained priests.They were living here at the seminary in the parish. They will deny most Magisterial documents by changing their meaning with the use of the false premise, which is approved by the Left.

This is the general attitude among the parishioners today.

There are mortal sins of faith.

Parishioners need to go for Confession, recant and affirm the Faith in public.There are some de fide teachings of the Church which are obligatory for all Catholics to believe in.

In the parish we do not have doctrinal unity on the First Commandment and the Creeds.We recite the Profession of Faith at Holy Mass, but because of the two interpretations, rational and irrational,our conclusions and so also our faith, are different.-Lionel Andrades

JULY 6, 2021

All the prayer groups in Dijon and the rest of France interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise, inference and conclusion and so create a false rupture with Catholic Sacred Tradition. This is not known to them.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/07/all-prayer-groups-in-dijon-and-rest-of.html

JUNE 29, 2021

Bishop Roland Minnerath has interpreted Vatican Council II with the false premise and with this error has written a book on 'the theology of religions' he has also interpreted the Syllabus of Errors with a false premise and published books with this error

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/06/bishop-roland-minnerath-has-interpreted.html

All the prayer groups in Dijon and the rest of France interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise, inference and conclusion and so create a false rupture with Catholic Sacred Tradition. This is not known to them.

All the prayer groups in Dijon and the rest of France interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise, inference and conclusion and so create a false rupture with Catholic Sacred Tradition. This is not known to them.It is the same in my parish Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome in the diocese of Porta Santa Rufina.

The Padre Pio Prayer groups, New Cathechumenal Way, Focolares, Legion of Mary, Charismatic Renewal Movement prayer and worship meetings, St.Vincent de Paul parish meetings, Medugorje Eucharistic Adoration meetings, Youth Summer camps, Scout programs  etc, all have to use the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II instead of the rational premise, inference and conclusion. 

 

FAKE PREMISE IN DIJON, FRANCE

Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

 FAKE INFERENCE IN DIJON, FRANCE 

 They are objective examples of salvation      outside the Church.

FAKE CONCLUSION IN DIJON,FRANCE

Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.

 

RATIONAL PREMISE OF LIONEL

LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

 

RATIONAL INFERENCE OF LIONEL

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

 

RATIONAL CONCLUSION OF LIONEL

Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake it used the false premise, inference and conclusion.

  

 TWO COLUMN APPROACH

Would you interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side or left hand side column?

LEFT HAND SIDE COLUMN - RIGHT HAND SIDE COLUMN

All salvation referred to in Vatican Council II i.e saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3),seeds of the Word (AG 11), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) etc are either:

implicit         or explicit for us.

hypothetical   or known in reality.

invisible       or visible in the flesh.

dejure(in principle)          

 

               or defacto ( in fact ).

subjective     or objective.

So one can choose from the left hand side or the right hand side column.

If the right hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition in general on other religions and Christian communities and churches. There are known exceptions in 2021 to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Cathlic Church. The dead-saved are visible.

If the left hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus, nor Tradition on other religions and Christian communities and churches.

Most people interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side values.Bishop Roland Minnerath and the Diocesan priests in Dijon, France use the irrational right hand side column.So there is an artificial break with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).

The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance never ever were an exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney, unless one is using the right hand side column.There are no known exceptions.-Lionel Andrades

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-jesuits-in-rome-are-using-fake.html

JULY 4, 2021

The Judges of the secular courts in Italy who have had the common Catholic formation as lay people in schools, colleges and universities use the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II . They need to inform Pope Francis and the Vatican about it.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-judges-of-secular-courts-in-italy.html

Pope Francis has approved a decree suppressing two thriving Catholic communities in South Italy citing'doctrinal superficialities' : The archbishop and priests like Pope Francis are themselves interpreting Magisterial documents with a fake premise, inference and conclusion.This is not just doctrinal ambiguity it is public first class heresy and schism with the past Magisterium of the Church.

Pope Francis has approved a decree suppressing two thriving Catholic communities in South Italy citing'doctrinal superficialities',when the apostolic visitation by retired Archbishop Ignazio Sanna and two professors emeritus of Pontifical Latean University moral theologian Fr. Mauro Cozzoli and canon lawyer Fr. Agostino Montan. The archbishop and priests like Pope Francis are themselves interpreting Magisterial documents with a fake premise, inference and conclusion.This is not just doctrinal ambiguity it is public first class heresy and schism with the past Magisterium of the Church.

1. FAKE PREMISE OF POPE FRANCIS AND THE APOSTOLIC VISITORS
2. Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

3.    FAKE INFERENCE OF POPE FRANCIS AND THE APOSTOLIC VISITORS

4. They are objective examples of salvation      outside the Church.

5.    FAKE CONCLUSION OF POPE FRANCIS AND THE APOSTOLIC VISITORS

6. Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.
   Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.

7. RATIONAL PREMISE OF LIONEL 
   LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

8. RATIONAL INFERENCE OF LIONEL 
   They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

9. RATIONAL CONCLUSION OF LIONEL 
   Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
   The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake it used the false premise, inference and conclusion.

10. 
    
     TWO COLUMN APPROACH

11. Would you interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side or left hand side column?
    LEFT HAND SIDE COLUMN - RIGHT HAND SIDE COLUMN
    All salvation referred to in Vatican Council II i.e saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3),seeds of the Word (AG 11), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) etc are either:
    implicit       or explicit for us.
    hypothetical   or known in reality.
    invisible      or visible in the flesh.
    dejure(in principle)           

12.                   or defacto ( in fact ).

13.    subjective     or objective.
    So one can choose from the left hand side or the right hand side column.
    If the right hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition in general on other religions and Christian communities and churches. There are known exceptions in 2021 to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Cathlic Church. The dead-saved are visible.

14. 
    If the left hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus, nor Tradition on other religions and Christian communities and churches.

15. 
    Most people interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side values.Bishop Roland Minnerath and the Diocesan priests in Dijon, France use the irrational right hand side column.So there is an artificial break with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).
    The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance never ever were an exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney, unless one is using the right hand side column.There were, and are, no known exceptions.-Lionel Andrades

 The Vatican has suppressed two Catholic associations based in southern Italy after determining that their founder’s alleged supernatural revelations were inauthentic.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) ordered an apostolic visitation of the Movimento Apostolico and Maria Madre della Redenzione last year after receiving numerous complaints about governance issues and “profound divisions” between members.

The CDF, together with the Congregation for Clergy and the Dicastery for the Laity, Family and Life, suppressed the two Catholic associations with a June 10 decree approved by Pope Francis. 

The Movimento Apostolico was founded in the Archdiocese of Catanzaro-Squillace in 1979, based on purported supernatural revelations given to Maria Marino.

The movement received formal recognition as a private association of the faithful in 2001. The connected public association of the faithful, Maria Madre della Redenzione, was formed later and recognized by the local Church in 2011.

The Movimento Apostolico spread throughout Italy and had a presence in Switzerland, Germany, the Republic of Congo, Cameroon, Madagascar, India, Benin and Ecuador.

The Vatican has suppressed two Catholic associations based in southern Italy after determining that their founder’s alleged supernatural revelations were inauthentic.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) ordered an apostolic visitation of the Movimento Apostolico and Maria Madre della Redenzione last year after receiving numerous complaints about governance issues and “profound divisions” between members.

The CDF, together with the Congregation for Clergy and the Dicastery for the Laity, Family and Life, suppressed the two Catholic associations with a June 10 decree approved by Pope Francis. 

The Movimento Apostolico was founded in the Archdiocese of Catanzaro-Squillace in 1979, based on purported supernatural revelations given to Maria Marino.

The movement received formal recognition as a private association of the faithful in 2001. The connected public association of the faithful, Maria Madre della Redenzione, was formed later and recognized by the local Church in 2011.

The Movimento Apostolico spread throughout Italy and had a presence in Switzerland, Germany, the Republic of Congo, Cameroon, Madagascar, India, ...It also said that the founding charism was not original, and the texts, formation and preaching of the movement were marked by “doctrinal superficiality.”

https://www.ncregister.com/cna/vatican-suppresses-catholic-movement-says-founder-s-revelations-not-supernatural

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