Sunday, September 8, 2019

Catholic Answers will have their annual 2019 conference this month and all the speakers will interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a rupture with Tradition. So they admit that the conference will be Christological and not with an ecclesio-centric ecclesiology. They will incorrectly interpret Lumen Gentium as a rupture with Feeneyite EENS and EENS according to the magisterium of the 16th century.

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Catholic Answers will have their annual 2019 conference this month and all the speakers will interpret Vatican Council II with a false  premise to create a rupture with Tradition. They admit that the conference will be Christological and not with an ecclesio-centric ecclesiology.
They will incorrectly interpret Lumen Gentium as a rupture with Feeneyite EENS and EENS according to the magisterium of the 16th century.-Lionel Andrades

http://www.catholicanswersconference.com/

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Traditional Mission based on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church with an ecumenism of return has not changed with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. Since Lumen Gentium etc does not contradict 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).

Traditional Mission based on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church with an ecumenism of return has not changed with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. Since Lumen Gentium  etc does not contradict 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
On September 8, 2019 at feast of the birth of Our Lady, we do not know any one who will be saved outside the Church ( or inside) with elements of sanctification and truth in other religions ( Lumen Gentium 8).
We do not know of someone who will be saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own(Lumen Gentium 16) or with a good conscience(LG 16).
We canot know of any one saved outside the Church with the desire for the baptism of water, which he or she did not receive before death ( Lumen Gentium 14).
We do not know of anyone saved outside the Church becauase we can judge 'who knows of does not know' about Jesus and the Church and is saved or not saved.(LG 14).
So there are no objective exceptions to 16th century EENS  mentioned in Lumen Gentium. Neither are hypothetical cases of GS 22 ( goodwill), AG 11 ( seeds of the Word), UR 3( saved in imperfect communion with the Church) exceptions to EENS. There are no exceptions to the past exclusivist ecclesiology too.
The Catholic Church still has a superiority and exclusiveness in salvation.This was denied by Cardinal Luiz Ladaria at the Placuet Deo Press Conference.( March 1, 2019) and Pope Benedict ( Avvenire, March 2016).They interpreted the Council irrationally to create a hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.
-Lionel Andrades

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The speakers at the Catholic Identity Conference(CIC) since they are not opposed by the Left are supporting schism with the past popes on the Creeds, Catechisms, Syllabus of Errors, past ecclesiology, ecumenism of return, traditional mission etc and they consider themselves traditionalists and conservative Catholics.

The speakers at the Catholic Identity Conference(CIC), who are not opposed by the Left, are support schism with the past popes on the Creeds, Catechisms, Syllabus of Errors, past ecclesiology, ecumenism of return, traditional mission etc.Yet they consider themselves  traditionalists and conservative Catholics.
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For all of them the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood (BOB) and invincible ignorance (I.I) are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). So to be exceptions BOD,BOB and I.I refer to known non Catholics saved outside the Church. Otherwise they would be not exceptions.
For the popes over the centuries BOD, BOB and I.I referred to invisible and theoretical cases only. This is common sense.It is something obvious.So BOD, BOB and I.I, for them, did not contradict  EENS.
It was not an exception to the old Catechisms when they affirmed the strict interpretation of EENS, example, the Catechism of Pope Pius X.
They were not exceptions to the Syllabus of Errors on ecumenism, the dogma EENS and the traditional ecclesiology.
They were not exceptions to the Athanasius Creed which states outside the Church there is no salvation.
The Nicene Creed for the popes did not mean, ' I believe in three or more known baptisms ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
The popes over the centuries did not interpret the Apostles Creed to mean ' I believe in the Holy Spirit , which teaches  the Catholic Church today that outside the Church  there is salvation'. 
Since all the speakers at the CIC  interpret hypothetical cases as being non hypothetical,LG 8, LG 14,LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are projected as objective exceptions to EENS, the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.Hypotheticals are objective!
Vatican Council II contradicts Tradition for them. Their position on the Council is the same as the liberals and Masons.
The liberals and Masons will not interpret Vatican Council II with the irrationality. Otherwise the Council would be in harmony with 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and the past ecclesiology . There would be no rupture with the Creeds, Catechisms and the Syllabus of Errors.
If the CIC speakers interpreted Vatican Council II rationally the Left may not allow them to participate at another Conference and label them Anti Semitic etc.
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Recently David Domet at Vox Cantoris had to end a discussion on EENS in the comment section of his blog. He had to publicly affirm EENS with exceptions, that is, Cushingite EENS.To retain his comfort zone in liberal and intolerant Canada he had to state, as a traditionalist, that those who died in the New Zealand massacre  were saved at the last moment before death.Also his non Christian colleague he was sure, would also go to Heaven without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14).
This is a mortal sin of faith. He denies the Creeds and Catechisms and re-interprets Vatican Council II irrationally. He attends Mass in Latin which cannot be the Traditional Latin Mass, since the ecclesiology is new and like that of Mass in the vernacular.Yet he criticizes the Novus Ordo Mass. He is in coherent and heretical and criticizes Pope Francis on doctrine etc.
Domet is in schism with the past popes on EENS, the Creeds, the Catechisms, Syllabus of Errors etc and so would be eligible to speak at the CIC like other politically correct with the Left Catholics.This would include journalists Edward Pentin and Diane Monatagna.
-Lionel Andrades



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Speakers at the Catholic Identity Conference(CIC) are in schism with the past Magisterium on EENS, Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors, past ecclesiology, ecumenism of return etc.They interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to maintain the common schism with the Left. In this way they remain speakers at these conferences


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