Wednesday, April 10, 2019
Fr.Francesco Giordano continues to teach at the Angelicum, Rome that invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) are visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
Along with the President of HLI,Fr.Shehan Boquet, he will continue to teach that unknown cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are known examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church in 2019. There is no denial from Deborah Piroch,Director, of the Public Relations Dept.,HLI.They say that this is what the Church teaches. It is 'magisterial' for them.
They do not mention that 'the Church' also teaches invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I are invisible for those in the Church who believe this.This is also common sense.The popes and saints in the past knew this.
According to the HLI this would be doctrine all religious communities must accept for canonical status, including the St. Benedict Centers, the Society of St. Pius X and the sedevacantist CMRI.It makes sense for HLI.
This would also be the understanding of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church for John Henry Weston, Editor,LifeSites News.It is the same for Bishop Athanasius Schneider and other followers of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.
The liberals and lay movements are also using this irrational philosophy and theologyand they form 'the Church' for the HLI.
This is the reasoning of adults at HLI and they are supported by even the Protestant correspondents at LifeSites News.This is Catholicism for all of them.
-Lionel Andrades April 9, 2019
Without the error in reasoning, we are back to the Old Theology.So the Catholic Church still teaches that all in general need to be Catholic, to avoid Hell.
Question:
Does the Catholic Church teach 'only those who know about Jesus and the Church' need to enter for salvation or everyone in general?
'Only those who know about Jesus and the Church'(LG 14) has no rational theological basis in the Catholic Church.This is the conclusion of the New Theology, Cushingite Theology, which is responsible for the hermeneutic of rupture in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
The New Theology, assumes there are known non Catholics saved outside the Church, past or present.It was as if someone could see and meet them saved in Heaven outside the Church.
This was the mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney Case when the Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO) assumed invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are visible exceptions to the traditional 'strict interpretation' of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
So with this irrationality the dogma EENS was made obsolete and the New Theology emerged.
The New Theology says outside the Church there is salvation.So it was concluded that not every one needs to enter the Catholic Church but only those 'who know'.
Without this error in reasoning, we are back to the Old Theology.So the Catholic Church still teaches that all in general need to be Catholic, to avoid Hell.All need to be members of the Catholic Church, with faith and the baptism of water(AG 7-Vatican Council II, Catechism of Pope Pius X, Cathechism of the Catholic Church(845,846 etc).
-Lionel Andrades
Repost : Kiko Arguello and the Neo Catechumenal Way must re consider the Redemptoris Mater seminaries coordinating with the Allen Hall seminary, London.It uses irrational Cushingism to interpret Vatican Council II
February 10, 2018
Kiko Arguello and the Neo Catechumenal Way must re consider the Redemptoris Mater seminaries coordinating with the Allen Hall seminary, London.It uses irrational Cushingism to interpret Vatican Council II
Kiko Arguello the founder of the Neo Catechumenal Way must re-consider his Redemptoris Mater seminaries coordinating with the Allen Hall Catholic seminary, London.It uses irrational Cushingism theology to re-interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition.It does the same with other magisterial documents.There is no denial from them.
Their
interpretation of Vatican Council II is a rupture with the past
exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church and the Syllabus of Errors.They
choose the hermeneutic of rupture and reject the hermeneutic of
continuity.
-Lionel Andrades
FEBRUARY 10, 2018
No denial from Rector of Allen Hall, Catholic seminary,London : interprets LG 16 as a rupture with EENS and the Syllabus of Errors
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/no-denial-from-rector-of-allen-hall.html
FEBRUARY 8, 2018
The New Theology of Rahner, Ratzinger and Ladaria has been accepted by the Catholic Charismatic Renewal, Neo Cathechumenal Way, traditionalists and all the religious communities.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/the-new-theology-of-rahner-ratzinger.html
FEBRUARY 6, 2018
Cushingism is the only theology used by the Catholic Charismatic Renewal Movement and the Neo Catechumenal Way : this is not the work of the Holy Spirit.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/cushingism-is-only-theology-used-by.html
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/02/kiko-arguello-founder-of-neo.html
Repost : Once the popes and cardinals say there are no visible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I they will return to the old salvation theology and ecclesiology of Church
February 11, 2018
Once the popes and cardinals say there are no visible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I they will return to the old salvation theology and ecclesiology of Church
The popes since Pius XII have been trying to adapt to invisible baptism of desire(BOD) being a visible exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).We know BOD( followed by the baptism of water) can only be a possibility known to God.There is no connection with EENS.There
is no connection since BOD cases do not exist on earth for us human
beings.When they are not there in our reality they cannot be exceptions
to EENS.
Today
we are presented with various theories which try to accomodate visible
for us baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible
ignorance(I.I). They all try to connect BOD, BOB, I.I and EENS.
Cardinal Ratzinger's Cushingite theory says all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church(CCC 846).Michael Voris says all who are in Heaven are Catholics.
Bishop Robert Barron says we can have a reasonable hope that most men are saved, Fr.Karl Rahner s.j refers to the Anonymous Christian,Pope Francis says Protestants are redeemed,Archbishop Lefebvre says non Catholics are saved in their religion, Fr.Jean Marie Gleize of the SSPX refers to the extraordinary way of salvation,when we humans can only know of the ordinary way of salvation, which is the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
Cardinal
Richard Cushing said that there was salvation outside the Church.He was
supported by the Jesuits of his time.This was a break with the past.
Popes
since Pius XII have changed the understanding of EENS with this
Cushingite reasoning.This was confirmed by Pope Benedict in March
2016(Avenire).The Cushingite pope said EENS was no more like it was in
the past.For him there was 'a development' with Vatican Council
II(Cushingite).He was not going to affirm Vatican Concil II(Feeneyite)
which would not be a development with EENS, according to the missionaries of the 16th century.
Unlike him, I affirm Feeneyite theology.I mention the error of the popes and cardinals only so that they can be corrected.The popes can switch to Feeneyism and discard their New Theology(Cushingism).They
have to avoid the false premise ( invisible people are visible, unknown
non Catholics are known examples of salvation outside the Church).When
we avoid the false premise we are automatically back to the old theology on salvation and the past ecclesiology of the Church. We do not have to put forward a new theology.
So it is asked how can the popes since Pius XII and all the cardinals be wrong and you are correct only?
I have explained in these blog posts, that unlike the pre- Pius XII popes, the present popes have wrongly assumed invisible people are visible.They then inferred that there is known salvation
outside the Church, even when there is no evidence.So they do away with
the ecumenism of return,the dogma EENS and the Syllabus of Errors.They
are really saying that all the popes of the past centuries were wrong
since they did not use the same false premise as them.
Secondly,
I am not the only one who says this.In general people agree with
me.There are no physically visible cases of the BOD, BOB and I.I this is
something obvious to all. This is not a personal opinion.
Once
the popes and cardinals say there are no visible cases of BOD,BOB and
I.I they will return to the old salvation theology and ecclesiology of
Church. They will realize that BOD, BOB and I.I have no connection with EENS.
-Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/02/once-popes-and-cardinals-say-there-are.html
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