Thursday, February 11, 2021

Bishop Peter Libasci and his Judicial Vicar and Chancellor, do not deny that they use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and also the Creeds and Catechisms

 Bishop Peter Libasci and his Judicial Vicar  and Chancellor,  do not deny that they use a false premise  to interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and also the Creeds and Catechisms.

So canonically the St. Benedict Center members need to press on until an apology or clarification is issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) and the Diocese of Manchester.

Also all the priests of the diocese are promoting the fake interpretation of Vatican Council II, EENS, the Catechisms and Creeds at Holy Mass in Latin and English.

The ecclesiology of the Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass  is not ecclesiocentric and neither is the Catechesis based on their being exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. - Lionel Andrades

Canonically SBC can ask why other religious communities in Manchester are granted canonical recognition when they are open to interpreting Vatican Council II rationally and in harmony with SBC EENS

 The 14 members of the St.Benedict Center who reportedly placed canonical petitions with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) can now ask why are the other religious communities in the diocese granted canonical recognition when they interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with a fake premise.They have no restrictions and prohibitions placed upon them.When they answer the Seven Points they interpret EENS and Vatican Council II rationally traditionally and without deception.

They can ask why are the other religious communities granted canonical recognition when they agree with the Seven Points and can interpret Vatican Council II rationally.So they do not contradict EENS. Similarly the SBC can also interpret Vatican Council II rationally which does not contradict traditional EENS.-Lionel Andrades

For the Vatican, hypothetical cases are objective examples of salvation outside the Church. This is deceptive but it is the only way in which they can say outside the Church there is salvation

  

The Catholic News Agency (CNA) report states  Vatican upholds prohibitions placed on Feeneyite group by diocese in New Hampshire, while the Doctrinal Beliefs of Brother Andre Marie MICM, says  that they accept the Magisterium and the Magisterial teachings of the Catholic Church.

But the Vatican is obviously wrong for Brother Andre Marie MICM.Since they are saying outside the Church there is salvation, while not explaining the difference between speculative and practical theology.

For Brother Andre Marie MICM, outside the Church there is no salvation and he has explained the difference between practical and speculative theology in an interview with Timothy Flanders.

For the Vatican, hypothetical cases are objective examples of salvation outside the Church. This is deceptive but it is the only way in which they can say outside the Church there is salvation.-Lionel Andrades


FEBRUARY 7, 2021

CNA report deceptive : there are no objective exceptions to Feeneyite EENS

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/cna-report-deceptive-there-are-no.html

For the Vatican, hypothetical cases are objective examples of salvation outside the Church. This is deceptive but it is the only way in which they can say outside the Church there is salvation.

 The Catholic News Agency (CNA) report states  Vatican upholds prohibitions placed on Feeneyite group by diocese in New Hampshire, while the Doctrinal Beliefs of Brother Andre Marie MICM, says  that they accept the Magisterium and the Magisterial teachings of the Catholic Church.

But the Vatican is obviously wrong for Brother Andre Marie MICM.Since they are saying outside the Church there is salvation, while not explaining the difference between speculative and practical theology.

For Brother Andre Marie MICM, outside the Church there is no salvation and he has explained the difference between practical and speculative theology in an interview with Timothy Flanders.

For the Vatican, hypothetical cases are objective examples of salvation outside the Church. This is deceptive but it is the only way in which they can say outside the Church there is salvation.-Lionel Andrades


FEBRUARY 7, 2021

CNA report deceptive : there are no objective exceptions to Feeneyite EENS

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/cna-report-deceptive-there-are-no.html

For Fr. Georges de Laire outside the Church there is salvation and there are not only Catholics in Heaven.For Brother Andre Marie MICM,outside the Church there is no salvation and so there are only Catholics in Heaven. He too cannot see people in Heaven but he is following the dogma EENS which is the norm for salvation for us Catholics

 The St.Benedict Center, NH says there are only Catholics in Heaven and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican and the Diocese of Manchester, say there are also people from other religions in Heaven, since there is salvation outside the Catholic Church.

The CDF and the Bishop of Manchester, interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise and so there are exceptoins to extra ecclesiam nulla salus for them. So they say there is salvation outside the Church. Of course they cannot see non Catholics in Heaven.

For Fr. Georges de Laire,Judicial Vicar of the diocese,   outside the Church there is salvation and there are not only Catholics in Heaven.For Brother Andre Marie MICM,outside the Church there is no salvation and so there are only Catholics in Heaven. He too cannot see people in Heaven but he is following the dogma EENS which is the norm for salvation for us Catholics.For him Ad Gentes 7 is the norm and LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 are not exceptions to the norm.-Lionel Andrades

Benedictines, Franciscans, Carmelites and Dominicans in Manchester, are in harmony with the strict interpretation of EENS, of the St. Benedict Center, NH

 Fr.Georges de Laire, Judicial Vicar and Meredith Cook, Chancellor in the Diocese of Manchester,USA, are not responding to e-mails. They are knowingly using a fake premise to interpret Vatican Council II and so create a fake rupture with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). Without this deception they would have to affirm EENS according to the St. Benedict Center in New Hampshire.

Since hypothetical cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II would not be practical exceptions, to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).Invisible people cannot be objective examples of salvation outside the Church in 2021.If someone saved in invincible ignorance for example, cannot exist in our reality, how can he or she be an objective exception to the traditional teaching which says there are only Catholics in Heaven? 

They continue with the error to avoid the St.Benedict Center's understanding of EENS.

Bishop Peter Libasci, Fr.Georges de Laire, Meredith  Cook and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, approved a harsh Decree of Prohibitions, on the St.Benedict Center for their interpretation of EENS.

Why is the Decreee of Prohibitions being maintained on the St.Benedict Center,New Hampshire  when the other religiouss communities  in the diocese,support the Seven Points. So they are open to interpreting  Vatican Council II without the false  premise. Benedictines, Franciscans, Carmelites and Dominicans in Manchester, are in harmony with the strict interpretation of EENS, of the St. Benedict Center, NH.-Lionel Andrades

Vocations to the Women Religious communities in the Diocese of Manchester,USA,like the Discalced Carmelites (O.C.D.), Sisters of the Presentation of Mary (p.m.) and the Dominican Sisters of Hope (O.P) no more depend upon the fake interpretation of Vatican Council II. Candidates with a religious vocation and the Vocation Directors have a choice. They can interpret Vatican Council II without confusing what is invisible as visible.So they do not create the familiar false rupture with Tradition. There is no break with the St. Benedict Center's understanding of extra ecclesiam nulla salus

 Vocations to the Women Religious communities in the Diocese of Manchester,USA,like the  Discalced Carmelites (O.C.D.), Sisters of the Presentation of Mary (p.m.) and the Dominican Sisters of Hope (O.P) no more depend upon the fake interpretation of Vatican Council II. Candidates with a religious vocation and the Vocation Directors have a choice. They can interpret Vatican Council II without confusing what is invisible as visible.So they do not create the familiar false rupture with Tradition. There is no break with the St. Benedict Center's understanding of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. -Lionel Andrades

The Order of Friars Minor (OFM) in the Diocese of Manchester, USA now affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), like St. Francis of Assisi and St. Bonaventure. They have no objections to the Seven Points. So they are open to interpreting Vatican Council II without the false premise

 The Order of Friars Minor (OFM) in the Diocese of Manchester, USA now affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), like St. Francis of Assisi and St. Bonaventure. They  have no objections to the Seven Points. So they are open to interpreting Vatican Council II without the false premise.

They do not reject Vatican Council II but simply interpret hypothetical cases as being only hypothetical. So hypothetical cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS according to the Franciscans before the 1930s.- Lionel Andrades



 FEBRUARY 11, 2021

The Benedictines at St. Anselm College and Abbey in the Diocese of Manchester,USA hold the same interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire. They have no objections or criticism of the Seven Points

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-benedictines-at-st-anselms-college.html

The Benedictines at St. Anselm College and Abbey in the Diocese of Manchester,USA hold the same interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire. They have no objections or criticism of the Seven Points


The Benedictines at St. Anselm College and Abbey in the Diocese of Manchester,USA hold the same interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire. They have no objections or criticism of the Seven Points.

In Rome, Fr. Stefano Visintin osb, the former Rector and Dean of Theology of the Benedictine Pontifical University of St. Anselm, has said that there are no objective  exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). The baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are not exceptions.

None of the Benedictines at St. Anselms Abbey in the Diocese of Bishop Peter Libasci contradict Fr. Stefano Visintin, a scientist and theologian.

Among the Benedictine monks in New Hampshire there is no more a rupture with St. Benedict  and St. Anselm understanding of outside the Church there is no salvation. Vatican Council II does not contradict it, any more. -Lionel Andrades

Religious communities in Manchester have no objections to the Seven Points

 E-mails have been sent to the religious communities in the Diocese of Manchester, USA, so they know about the Seven Points. Even the Curia and members of various Ministries and a Vicar General, have been informed. They are expected to agree with the Seven Points and so interpret Vatican Council II without the common false premise and inference. So the Council will not be a break with Tradition and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as interpreted by the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire.



No one is disputing the Seven Points among the following religious communities in the dioceseThe Order of St. Benedict (O.S.B), St.Benedict's Abbey, the Order of Friars Minor - Franciscan Friars (O.F.M), The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (F.S.S.P.), Redemptorist Fathers (C.Ss.R.)and among Women Religious, the Discalced Carmelites (O.C.D.), Sisters of the Presentation of Mary (p.m.) and the Dominican Sisters of Hope (O.P).



They would now know that the Council can be interpreted without the false premise and there is no more a theological basis for the New Theology, New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology and New Evangelisation. 

This rational interpretation of Vatican Council II would be the norm in the diocese. So the Decree of Precepts and Prohibitions, upon the St.Benedict Center, NH, for holding the traditional strict interpretation of EENS, needs to be ended. EENS according to the St.Benedict Center, New Hampshire, has no practical exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II, for the religious communities in Manchester. -Lionel Andrades

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FEBRUARY 10, 2021

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Diocese of Manchester, interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Feeneyite EENS. Since the false premise causes the rupture.It is not the Council per se : Their Decree would also apply to other religious communities in New Hampshire after they answer Seven Questions

The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate and the Brazilian community Joseleitos di Cristo, both have been based in the Diocese of Porta Santa Rufina, Rome.The bishop is Gino Reali. 

These two religious communities with whom I have communicated in writing, would agree with the following seven points. None of the two have raised objections even though they project themselves as being liberal.

 They would know how to interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. It's the only rational choice. It would be the same for the Men and Women Religious Communities in the Diocese of Manchester, USA.

The answer to these seven questions show that Vatican Council II ( without the false premise) can be interpreted in harmony with the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

The Council and the Catechism of the Catholic Church do not contradict the St. Benedict Center interpretation of EENS.

Presently the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Diocese of Manchester, interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Feeneyite EENS. Since the false premise causes the rupture.It is not the Council per se.

So the Decree of Precepts Prohibitions is today meaningless.Since the  prohibitions, could also be  placed on the other religious communities in New Hampshire,after they answer the seven questions. The Decree could also be applied  to  The Order of St. Benedict (O.S.B), St.Benedict's Abbey, the Order of Friars Minor - Franciscan Friars (O.F.M), The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (F.S.S.P.), Redemptorist Fathers (C.Ss.R.)and among Women Religious, the Discalced Carmelites (O.C.D.), Sisters of the Presentation of Mary (p.m.) and the Dominican Sisters of Hope (O.P).

 Their interpretation of Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus would be the same as that of the St. Benedict Center, NH.

SEVEN POINTS

 1. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II always refer to hypothetical, speculative and theoretical cases.So they are not practical exceptions to the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. There is no objective rupture with the Athanasius Creed which says all need Catholic faith for salvation.

2. They agree that Jesus died for all, salvation is open for all in potential but to receive this salvation all need to enter the Church, with faith and baptism(AG 7). The Church is necessary ( Dominus Iesus 20, CDF, Notification on Fr.Jacques Dupuis sj 2000 etc).

3. They interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise, just like me. LG 14, LG 16 etc are only hypothetical. They are not objective cases in 2021.

4. The baptism of desire(BDD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance (I.I) refer to only hypothetical cases. If any one has received salvation with BOD, BOB and I.I only God can know.

5.The Church teaches in Vatican Council II( without the false premise) that everyone who dies in 2021, without faith and baptism, are oriented to Hell in general, in principle.

6. It is a lie and deception when someone uses the false premise to interpret the Nicene Creed, Vatican Council II. Catechisms, the dogma EENS and BOD, BOB and I.I.

7. Catholics need to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and not irrationally. There is a rational option.-Lionel Andrades


FEBRUARY 9, 2021

Seven questions which Bishop Peter Libasci , Diane Quinlin, the Chancellor and the Rev. Georges de Laire, Judicial Vicar could answer and affirm. Their interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS woud be the same as that of the St. Benedict Center, NH.So they can end the prohibitions placed upon the religious community

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/seven-questions-which-bishop-peter.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-congregation-for-doctrine-of-faith.html



FEBRUARY 9, 2021

Seven questions which Bishop Peter Libasci , Diane Quinlin, the Chancellor and the Rev. Georges de Laire, Judicial Vicar could answer and affirm. Their interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS woud be the same as that of the St. Benedict Center, NH.So they can end the prohibitions placed upon the religious community

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/seven-questions-which-bishop-peter.html



FEBRUARY 9, 2021

The Decree of Precepts and Prohibitions placed upon the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire for affirming the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), with no known exceptions, could also be placed upon the other religious communities in the Diocese of Manchester, men and women, if they did not unethically use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and create fake exceptions for EENS

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-decree-of-precepts-and-prohibitions.html






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TB JOSHUA CASTS OUT HOMOSEXUAL DEMON!!!

HEALED AFTER ONLY THREE SECONDS!

Gospel Reading today : Soon a woman whose daughter had an unclean spirit heard about him. She came and fell at his feet. The woman was a Greek, a Syrophoenician by birth, and she begged him to drive the demon out of her daughter.

 

Gospel Reading Today at Holy Mass: Mak 7:24-30


Jesus went to the district of Tyre.
He entered a house and wanted no one to know about it,
but he could not escape notice.
Soon a woman whose daughter had an unclean spirit heard about him.
She came and fell at his feet.
The woman was a Greek, a Syrophoenician by birth,
and she begged him to drive the demon out of her daughter.
He said to her, “Let the children be fed first.
For it is not right to take the food of the children
and throw it to the dogs.”
She replied and said to him,
“Lord, even the dogs under the table eat the children’s scraps.”
Then he said to her, “For saying this, you may go.
The demon has gone out of your daughter.”
When the woman went home, she found the child lying in bed
and the demon gone.

https://bible.usccb.org/bible/readings/021121.cfm


Rorate Caeili and Don Pietro Leone are still going in circles. They interpret Vatican Council with a false premise and then make inferences with this error

 Rorate Caeili and Don Pietro Leone are still going in circles. They interpret Vatican Council with a false premise and then make inferences with this error. 

THE ENEMY WITHIN

 

a Critique of Vatican II

 

Beatissimae Vergini Mariae humillime dedicatum,

Quae cunctas haereses sola interemisti in universo mundo

Aleph. How doth the city sit solitary that was full of people! How is the mistress of the Gentiles become a widow, the princes of provinces made tributaries! Beth. Weeping she hath wept in the night and has tears on her cheeks: there is none to comfort her among all them that were dear to her, all her friends have despised her and have become her enemies… Mem. All they that pass by the way have clapped their hands at her: they have hissed and wagged their heads at the daughter of Jerusalem, saying: Is this the city of perfect rest, the joy of all the earth? (Lamentations 1-2)


Protestation of Author

 

The Author submits this work to the judgment of the Church, renouncing and recanting in advance all that She may deem not to be in accordance with the Holy Catholic Faith.

 

Bibliographical Note

 

We have relied on the following excellent works: ‘Pope John’s Council’ [1], ‘The Second Vatican Council and Religious Liberty’ [2], ‘Il Concilio Vaticano II una storia mai scritta’ [3], ‘Sinossi degli errori imputati al concilio Vaticano II’ [4]. The last has been particularly useful for indicating the principal heterodox texts, together with the reasons for their heterodoxy; the others for providing the historical context and uncovering many of the deeper issues at stake. We have used the translation of the Council documents by Father Austin Flannery OP [5].

 

 

Preface

 

The hierarchy and the clergy of the last decades almost unanimously present the Council teachings as a new vision of the Catholic Faith and of its practice. This alone would be sufficient utterly to discredit it, when we recall that the Catholic Faith is in fact immutable [6]. However, the damage that this Council has done, and continues to do to souls, urgently requires a throrough going critique of this new vision: in order to show how it is opposed to the true Faith, and to set it aside[7] as soon as possible.

Lionel: The new vision, the 'new revelation' depended upon the interpretation of Vatican Council II with a false premise. For example, Lumen Gentium 8 and Lumen Gentium 16 would be practical exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed , the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition if they referred to known and physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church without faith and the baptism of water. If they referred to only hypothetical cases they would not contradict Tradition.

For some or many of the Council Fathers, LG 8 etc referred to visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. This was also the irrationality of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. He did not correct the error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.It wrongly assumed unknown cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance, were known exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.

So with this false premise the author interprets Vatican Council II and so his reasoning will have to be in error. 

-Lionel Andrades

 

This Preface will consist of the following sections:

 

 

  1. How to View the Council;
  2. The Historical Background;
  3. The Council’s opposition to the Catholic Faith.

 

 

 

  1. How to view the Council

 

We shall begin by presenting, and then evaluating, the three basic views which are held of the Council [8].

 

  1. Three Views

 

The texts of the Second Vatican Council are syncretist, as being the product of two opposing factions of Council members: the ‘Traditionalists’ [9], intent on declaring the Church’s Traditional teaching and the ‘Modernists’ intent on declaring novelty. The novelty as expressed in the texts nowhere amounts to formal heresy (or at least not yet demonstrably so), but is heterodox, by which we mean that it typically has a heretical tendency: it is ambiguous in such a way as to favor heresy[10].  

 

There are three principal views that have been taken of the Council as a whole: i) the Modernist view; ii) the Traditionalist view; and iii) a further view adopted subsequent to the Council, namely the ‘Neo-Conservative’ view. In the simplest possible terms, the Modernists reject Tradition and embrace novelty; the Traditionalists embrace Tradition and reject novelty; the Neo-Conservatives embrace both Tradition and novelty.

 

In order to expound these three views in greater detail, we shall show how the proponents of each of them understand the novel texts. The Modernists understand them in a heretical sense; the Neo-Conservatives according to the ‘Hermeneutic of Continuity’; and the Traditionalists according to the ‘Remote Rule of Faith’.

 

a) The Modernists understand the novel texts, then, in a heretical sense. To give an example, they interpret in a heretical sense conciliar texts that cast doubt on the dogma (known as the dogma): ‘No salvation outside the Church’ [11]. They understand such texts, in other words, as a denial of the dogma: that is to say as stating that it is possible to be saved outside the Church. They manifest this understanding either in words, actions, or omissions (e.g. by no longer teaching ‘the dogma’ and no longer engaging in missionary work of a supernatural character or in evangelisation). We observe that, as far as it is possible to judge, a large part of the contemporary hierarchy and clergy are Modernist, understanding novel conciliar texts in a heretical sense.

 

b) The Neo-Conservatives, by contrast, as we have said above, embrace both Tradition and Novelty. They do not understand the novel texts in a heretical sense like the Modernists, but rather according to the ‘hermeneutic of continuity’, that is to say in the light of Tradition, and more precisely as continuous with Tradition. Their stance is what we might describe as ‘pacifist’, and imbued with piety and docility towards the Church, towards what She has always taught and towards what She taught in recent times in the last Ecumenical (in the sense of universal) Council.

 

c) The Traditionalists, finally, understand the novel texts not according to the ‘Hermeneutic of Continuity’ but according to the ‘Remote Rule of Faith’. The Remote Rule of Faith signifies Tradition, and in understanding the Council in the light of Tradition they resemble the Neo-Conservatives; but they differ from them in not necessarily interpreting the texts as continuous with Tradition. The light of Tradition may show a text to be continuous with Tradition or discontinuous with it; or again it may show that a given text is ambiguous and favors heresy.

 

In this last case, which is in fact the case of the novel texts, Traditionalists will reject the said texts. They do this, we repeat, not because the texts are necessarily heretical in themselves, but because they are of a heretical tendency: they are ambiguous in such a way as to favor heresy.

 

 

  1. Evaluation of the Three Views

 

a) Modernists reject Tradition and embrace Heresy. In rejecting Tradition they reject Faith itself, since Tradition is nothing other than Faith as it has been taught with every greater clarity and depth over the centuries. Modernism is therefore a heretical position both negatively in rejecting the Faith, and positively in embracing heresy: consequently it is not a position tenable for Catholics. The difference between Modernist Heretics and past Heretics is that the former pretend to be Catholic and members of the Church while the latter did not. May Modernists have the courage to face the Truth and to convert, or at least publically to admit that they are not members of the Catholic Church.

 

And yet perhaps they may rely on their cherished theory (condemned by St. Pius X in Pascendi 13) that Truth changes, and claim that they do not reject traditional teaching in respect of the past, but only in respect of the present and future, on the basis that it was true in the past but is true no longer. This claim would however be false because, as we have already stated, Faith is immutable: the object of Faith is Truth, Supernatural Truth. This Truth is nothing else than God Himself in His intimate nature, together with His plan of Salvation for the world. Since the object of Faith is Truth, that Truth, indeed, which is God Himself, it is itself immutable. If one attempts to change the Faith, one is, therefore, left with falsehood. 

 

b) Neo-Conservatives, by contrast, even if they have succeeded up till now in interpreting the conciliar ambiguities in accordance with Tradition, also sustain an untenable position: untenable inasmuch as it is both obscurantist and obstructionist.

 

It is obscurantist in suggesting that the novel texts stand in continuity with Tradition. For to say that the texts should be interpreted in continuity with Tradition entails that they are in fact so, whereas, by contrast and as we have pointed out, they are novel, and furthermore favor heresy. 

 

It is obstructionist in the following way: it deflects attention away from the Council’s major problem which is its heretical tendency, and focuses it instead on a minor problem which is its ambiguities as such. The Council’s heretical tendency is its major problem because it obstructs the Church’s goal which is the salvation and sanctification of souls; the Council’s ambiguities, by contrast, are only a minor problem, because interpreting them correctly serves at best to defend the Council Popes and Bishops from heresy, a purely academic affair.

 

If part of the regular consignment of buns to a boys’ school were poisonous and the Headmaster did not stop the consignment, but rather spent his time defending those responsible from blame, one would be inclined to say that he had got his priorities wrong, and that if he refused to stop the consignment, then at least some investigation should be made about which buns were dangerous, in order to save the boys from harm.

 

c) Traditionalists, as explained above, embrace the Council’s Traditional texts, they assess the novelties in the light of Tradition and reject them on account of their heretical tendency. In rejecting them for this reason they are but following the practice of past Councils, which attached to such texts ‘theological censures’ such as propositio haeresim sapiens (proposition that tastes, is suspect, of heresy) or propositio captiosa (captious proposition, a proposition that is deliberately ambiguous) [12].

 

Far from being doctrinally obscurantist or morally obstructionist, the Traditionalist is motivated solely by the desire to teach and to sanctify, in accordance with the mandate of Our Blessed Lord: he desires that the Faith should be stated as clearly as possible because it is the light in which we see the path that leads to Heaven.

 

The Traditionalist view is controversial first in regard to the hierarchy, because:

 

-          it calls into question the declarations of all the hierarchy of the world united in a Council;

 

-          it brands a large part of the hierarchy and clergy in the two succeeding generations as heterodox;

 

-        it entails that from the time of the Council till the present day the hierarchy has been directing the Church along the wrong course.

 

And yet, controversial as it may be, this view is not problematic theologically. The Council declarations were not dogmatic, neither in the theological form of the texts nor in the Pope’s intention [13], and a large part of the hierarchy and the clergy has fallen into heterodoxy in the past, in the Arian crisis, when almost the entire Church had lost its doctrinal orientation.

 

The Traditionalist view is also controversial in regard to the Holy Spirit, in suggesting that He did not assist the entire Episcopacy of the world united to the Pope. To this we should reply by saying that in fact the Holy Spirit can assist the Church in one of two ways: either positively, in deepening and clarifying the Church doctrine; or negatively, in preventing the Church falling into formal heresy: which is the way He seems to have assisted the Second Vatican Council [14].

 

The Traditionalist view is controversial finally in a moral sense in being critical of the Council and of the joint pronouncements of all the Bishops in the world, including the Pope. Does this not exhibit a lack of those virtues of piety and docility that characterize the Neo-Conservatives? No, we practice piety and docility towards the hierarchy if we respect their ecclesiastical dignity and if we follow those teachings of theirs which conform to the Faith; but if they teach another doctrine, we are obliged to reject it [15].

 

More fully, Faith is necessary for salvation; in the doctrinal domain it is the very raison d’être of the hierarchy to impart it: this is their competence and their duty. If, by contrast, their teaching is heterodox, then they both exceed their competence and fail in their duty, and we are obliged to reject that teaching. It is salutary to criticize heterodoxy so that others may preserve their Faith intact. The purpose of this, as we have just said, is that they may attain their eternal salvation. 

 

 

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We conclude the section with the following argument:

 

1) The Council contains hereticizing texts;

2) The person who dies a formal heretic is condemned to Hell; therefore

3) The Council endangers the salvation of souls and should be set aside.

 

Should any-one doubt the first premise, let him read the present book; should any-one doubt the second he is not Catholic. Does the Church not teach us infallibly: ‘If any-one wants to be saved, let him above all hold the Catholic Faith…’ [16] ? As to the conclusion, it refers to the whole Council, not just to the hereticizing texts, because, although the Council also contains traditional texts, a layman without expert knowledge is not equipped to distinguish the orthodox texts from the heterodox ones. 

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