The Catholic Church is missionary
The Catholic Church is missionary.
Vatican Council II supports the traditional mission approach. It is based upon
there being exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church only.Outside the Church
there is no salvation says Vatican Council II in Ad Gentes 7 while LG 8, LG 14,LG
16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc being only hypothetical, are not practical exceptions
for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in 2022.The Council is Feeneyite and
not Cushingite.There can only be one rational and traditional interpretation of
the Council and the Council can only be Feeneyite.
We proclaim the
necessity of believing in Jesus Christ in the Catholic Church (John 3:5) and
those who do not believe will be condemned ( Mark 16:16).This is the official
teaching of the Catholic Church according to Magisterial Documents,including
Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (846 etc).
The Catechism of the
Catholic Church says all need faith and baptism for salvation ( CCC 846) and all
who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church. Non Catholics do not have
Catholic faith at the time of death.They do not believe in the Sacraments and
the traditional faith and moral teachings. Non Christians also do not have the
baptism of water.
In general non Christians are oriented to Hell ( CDF, Notification, Dupuis, 2001) and are oriented to the Catholic Church while they are alive, for salvation. If any one is saved outside the Catholic Church it would only be known to God.In Heaven there are only Catholics.
This is the traditional de fide of the Church supported by the Bible, Magisterium and Sacred Scripture and also by Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, interpreted rationally.
Catholics are the new chosen people of God (Nostra Aetate 4, Vatican Council II).They are the new elect.They have the Jewish Messiah, in His Mystical Body the Church and they are saved through the grace of his Sacrifice and their fidelity to the Gospel.
God the Father wants all
people to be united in the Catholic Church, the Catholic Church is like the Ark
of Noah that saves in the flood (CCC 845).
Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation
is the teaching of the Catholic Church today according to Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the past Magisterium interpreted rationally. The New Evangelisation is based upon Vatican Council II interpreted with the Irrational Premise. It is Christ centered only and rejects traditional ecclesiocentrism.
The Sacraments are an aid and necessity for salvation. Jesus saves through the Sacraments.
We are sinful people because of the Original Sin of Adam and Eve but Jesus has redeemed and expiated for us, through his Death and Resurrection. He will come again and there will be a Day of Judgement.The popes may change but the teachings of the Catholic Church do not change since objective reality, Heaven and Hell do not change.
Hell has fire we are told in the old and new Testaments. Jesus mentions Hell many times.
God is merciful and wants all in Heaven but God is also Just and allows those who choose Satan, through bad faith and morals, to go there for all eternity.
So we have the Great Commission to go out in the whole world and proclaim the Good News of salvation in only Jesus in the Catholic Church, which is the Church of the Early Catholics (Christians) and the Church Fathers. Those who believe in Jesus and live Jesus’ teachings during their life will be saved. Those who do not will be condemned.
Most people go to Hell, since they die outside the Catholic Church, the original Church of Jesus, and the Church of the Patristic times. They go to, where the Bible tells us, Lucifer and his angels in rebellion, were sent and are there for all eternity.
To be saved from Hell one has to be a Catholic. It is not enough to vaguely be a Christian, we also have to follow the faith and moral teachings of the Catholic Church and choose not to sin. Through absolution in the Sacrament of Reconciliation, the priest, absolves mortal sins and so restores Sanctifying Grace, a condition for salvation.
Salvation is available for all in general but to receive this salvation all need to enter the Church to gain from Jesus’ Sacrifice, to receive their inheritance as children of God. All must be Catholic. Though the Holy Spirit can act outside the visible boundaries of the Church, salvation is restricted to only the Catholic Church.
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus says Vatican Council II (Rational). -Lionel Andrades
FEBRUARY 15, 2022
Vatican Council II interpreted with the Rational Premise is dogmatic and not just pastoral.
Vatican Council II interpreted with the Rational Premise is dogmatic and not just pastoral. Since hypothetical cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 are not practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors and the past exclusivist ecclesiology.While Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 interpreted rationally supports the strict interpretation of EENS.
LG 14 (the baptism of desire) and LG 16 (invincible ignorance) are not objective in our reality. They do not contradict EENS according to the missionaries in the 16th century who did not project exceptions for EENS. Since the Jesuits in the Middle Ages did not use the False Premise to interpret the baptism of desire(BOD), invincible ignorance(I.I) and the baptism of blood(BOB). They did not claim that BOD, BOB and I.I, without the baptism of water, were physically known non Catholics saved outside the Church. This is the rational approach.BOD, BOB and I.I are not known in particular cases. So when St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Anthony Mary Claret and popes refer to the BOD,I.I and BOB, it is always to hypothetical cases. If we re-interpret these saints and popes as projecting BOD, BOB and I.I as exceptions for Feeneyite EENS then we are assuming that these are objective cases, and so we are assuming that these are objective cases and so there are practical exceptions for the past ecclesiocenterism of the Catholic Church.Our premise would be wrong.So our conclusion would also be wrong. It would be said that Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma EENS.
But when BOD, BOB and I.I are interpreted rationally they do not contradict EENS, while Ad Gentes 7 supports EENS and is placed in the Catechism( 846) under the title outside the Church there is no salvation. -Lionel Andrades
FEBRUARY 14, 2022
Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation is the official teaching of the Catholic Church when Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted rationally, with the Rational Premise
"Outside the Church there is no salvation"
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
- Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. - Lumen Gentium 14,Vatican Council II, cf. Mk 16:16; Jn 3:5.
- (Note :The passage in red does not contradict the passage in blue since being saved in invincible ignorance refers to a hypothetical and speculative case only. It is not a practical exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors etc.)
- http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm
847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
- Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.( Note : Those who are in invincible ignorance ; who do not know God and are saved are hypothetical and speculative cases only. They are not practical exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS)
848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."(Note : Though God could lead someone who is ignorant of the Gospel to that faith which pleases and these people would be known only to God. We cannot see or meet someone saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desrie .So being saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire must not be projected as being practical exceptions for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.It would be a False Premise. What is invisible is neing projected as being a visible person, an objective case.)
When the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 is interpreted with the red passage being an exception to the blue, a False Premise is being used.
When the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 is interpreted with the red passage not being an exception to the blue, then a Rational Premise is being used.
If for you LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to exceptions for the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus then you are saying that LG 8 etc refer to visible and known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church.
If for me they are not exceptions for the past exclusivist ecclesiology, then I am saying that they refer to invisible cases only in 1965-2022. They are implicit and subjective.
So for you they are explicit and for me implicit and so our conclusions are non traditional (for you) and traditional (for me).
So we can interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with the Rational or False Premise and our conclusion will be different. There will be a continuity or rupture with Tradition (Catechism of Pope Pius X (24 Q, 27Q), Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius X ( an ecumenism of return to the Church ) etc.
This is the official teaching of the Catholic Church according to the texts of the Council and the Catechism and the past Magisterium, interpreted rationally.
-Lionel Andrades
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