Sunday, November 10, 2019
Traditionalists cannot reclaim Western Catholic civilization without the teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church
Dr. Joseph Shaw, James Bogle, former President of Una Voce and Jim Hale a Life Site producer were there at the Summorum Pontificam Pilgrimage last month and they want to reclaim Western Civilization for the Catholic Church (See video below).But they attend the Latin Mass with the New Theology, New Ecumenism and New Evangelisation.None of them interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of Western Civilization.
Joseph Shaw in a recent post on his blog LMS Chairman, does not ask Zita Ballinger Fletcher, of the National Catholic Reporter, 1 to interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with Tradition.If she did do so, the ecclesiology( understanding of mission, salvation, ecumenism and the rest of what makes Church) of the Mass in English , would be the same as that of the Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
We cannot go back to Catholic Civilization if we assume unknown cases of BOD, BOB and I.I and LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, are known, practical exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS. This is the interpretation of EENS which Shaw, Bogle and Hale will not affirm in public.
Shaw, Bogle and Hale and the other Summorum Pontificum traditionalists cannot support the traditionalists at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA.They interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with Feeneyite EENS.So now the Latin Mass Society of England and Wales and Una Voce support the New Theology at the old Mass, which was not there over the centuries in Western Christian civilization.
For example, Steve Bannon and Benjamin Harnwell cannot go back to the old Western Christian civilization based only on Judeo-Christian values. This is too vague. Western Christian civilization was Catholic.They held the centuries old strict understanding of outside the Church there is no salvation.
Now with the veneer of the old Mass the traditionalists at the procession last month, hold the liberal theology which says outside the Church there is known salvation. People in Heaven, for them, are visible on earth and not every one needs to be a Catholic to be saved, as if they can know the exceptions.They re-interpret the saints and contradict themselves.They are in schism with the popes on EENS and hypothetical BOD,BOB and I.I.Like the rest of the Left they interpret Lumen Gentium as a rupture with the past ecclesiology, to meet the approval of their employers or business interests.
They depend upon the support of Bishop Athanasius . Schneider ,2 who after 50 years of error, cannot re-interpret the Council in harmony with the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.For then he would be saying that Protestants and Muslims in his diocese of Kazakhstan are on the way to Hell. According to Vatican Council II all need faith and baptism. Mohammad did not have it.In the Bible, John 3:5 says all need faith and baptism for salvation. The Khazaks do not have it.
John 3:16-18 says all who do not believe will be condemned. Jews do not believe.They die without faith and baptism(LG 14, Ag 7). All atheists in general are lost according to Vatican Council II( AG 7, LG 14).
Bishop Schneider supports a vague Christology which is part of the New Theology of Rahner and Ratzinger and the Jesuits.
It is easy to speak at conferences, be part of processions and write non controversial books but it is difficult to proclaim the teachings of the faith according to Vatican Council II and Tradition.-Lionel Andrades
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NOVEMBER 9, 2019
Students would be surprised to know, if any one told them about it, that Vatican Council II supports an exclusivist ecclesiology in the Catholic Church. It is Feeneyite.
Resident and visiting professors are not telling non Christian students at the St. Benet Hall, Oxford University, England, what the Catholic Church really teaches about Vatican Council II.The liberal Catholic professor of Philosophy Dr. Joseph Shaw does not quote Vatican Council II (AG 7) to support St. Athanasius' teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
Students would be surprised to know, if any one told them about it, that Vatican Council II supports an exclusivist ecclesiology in the Catholic Church. It is Feeneyite.
Presently the professors, wrongly interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being objective exceptions to the past ecclesiology. This is a lie. LG 8 etc cannot contradict AG 7.There are no personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church, for us human beings. We cannot see or meet someone saved in invincible ignorance(LG 16) in 1965-2019. A theoretical possibility, which exists only in the mind, is not a real person, in time and space, today.
So when Catholics marry non Christians according to Vatican Council II it is adultery and not a Sacrament. Protestants do not have Catholic faith and neither are they baptised with water in the Catholic Church(LG 14, AG 7).-Lionel Andrades
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