It is unfortunate that young Catholics in Germany, have to re-interpret Vatican Council II,in an irrational and compromised version to keep the German church away from schism

The young people at the Acies Ordinata prayer assembly in Munich, last Saturday against the 'schismatic' Cardinal Reinhardt Marx, Archbishop of Munich, could be in contact with priests  who teach at the pontifical universities or the Society of St.Pius X seminary or one of the sedevacantist seminaries, where all the books interpret Vatican Council II, with a false premise to create a rupture with Tradition.

This is common.

Even if they read books on Vatican Council II written by Plineo Correa de Oliveriera, Fr.Nicholas Gruner, Chris Ferrara or Roberto dei Mattei, they will find all  interpreted irrationally.They are Cushingite and not Feeneyite.All the books published by Oxford University, Amazon or Ignatius Press are in this category of error
 

There has also been no article written by John Henry Weston in which Vatican Council II was interpreted without the false premise and so  was projected as being in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Those young people were probably taught in Religion/Catechism Class that every one needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation except for....

Or, the Church is necessary for salvation but every one does not need to enter for salvation, there are exceptions, example...

They probably do not know that there is a Vatican Council II without a false premise and inference, there is a Vatican Council II,Feeneyite and Cardinal Marx does not like it.

If Cardinal Marx was told to accept and announce a Vatican Council II Feeneyite,instead of the present Vatican Council II, Cushingite, he would puff hard on his cigar.

If Cardinal Marx affirmed Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) he would lose his support among influential international organizations.They would demand that he step down as a cardinal.Since Cushingism and Feeneyism are the real political issue and not just Vatican Council II.

But assuming Pope Francis and Pope Benedict were honest and for some reason were forced to say that they affirm Vatican Council II( Feeneyite), then Cardinal Reinhardt Marx and the German bishops would not like it.They may decide to leave the Church and call themselves schismatics or sedevacantists, unless the two popes came back to Vatican Council II (Cushingite).

Similarly if some of the German bishops affirmed Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) they would then also be saying there can only be an EENS ( Feeneyite).This is rational.If Cardinal Marx supported them, he would be in schism for the Left.

So now like the professors at the Catholic seminaries and universities in Germany,everyone affirms Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) and there is no schism in the Church from the Left.But it is unfortunate that young Catholics in Germany, have to re-interpret Vatican Council II,in an irrational and compromised version to keep the German church away from schism.-Lionel Andrades 


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Traditionalists who are in schism with the past popes on the Syllabus of Errors, the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB), invincible ignorance (I.I), the Athanasius Creed etc held an assembly prayer at Munich, Bavaria last Saturday against the 'schismatic' Cardinal Reinhardt Marx, Archbishop of Munich.

Traditionalists who are in schism with the past popes on the Syllabus of Errors, the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB), invincible ignorance (I.I), the Athanasius Creed etc held an assembly prayer at Munich, Bavaria last Saturday against the 'schismatic' Cardinal Reinhardt Marx, Archbishop of Munich. On December 1, 2019, in the Munich Cathedral, Cardinal Marx opened the “Synodal Way” of the German Church. On January 30 in the Cathedral of Saint Bartholomew in Frankfurt-on-Main, the first plenary assembly of bishops will discuss the “Synodal Way” to follow after the Synod on the Amazon.1

The Acies Ordinata is an assembly of lay Catholics who want to publicly witness to their fidelity to the Church.They stood silence for one hour, with the Rosary in hand.

The traditionalists and the German bishops like the lay faithful with their Rosary in their hand, interpret BOD, BOB and I.I as being exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. So for them BOD,BOB and I.I are also exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, even though there are no practical cases known of BOD, BOB and I.I. i.e non Catholics saved outside the Church without 'faith and baptism'(Ad Gentes 7).

With visible for them BOD, BOB and I.I there are also literal exceptions to the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, on ecumenism and exclusive salvation in the Church.So with there being known exceptions outside the Church, the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King has been made obsolete. They can no more call for the non separation of Church and State as during the time of the Austro-Hungarian Catholic Empire.

The separation of Church and State is supported by Cushingism.Since it is assumed there are exceptions to EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc and so it asked :When there are exceptions why does every one need to enter the Church ?

The lay faithful follow the error of Pope Paul VI to Pope Francis and project exceptions to magisterial documents including the Catechisms of Trent and that of Pope Pius X.Even John 3:5 and Mark 16 :16 have exceptions for them, even though they cannot name any exception since 1965.

Invisible people are assumed to be visible and a new theology is created which is the basis of doctrinal confusion and a rejection of the faith.

With Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus also having exceptions ecclesiology has been changed and so Cardinal Marx and the German bishops feel they can make any change and it would still be considered Catholic. Vatican Council II interpreted with a false premise ( invisible people are visible in the present times) is the precedent.

There is no real opposition to the German liberal bishops since the Lefebvrists and the Acies Ordinata are also Cushingite  on Vatican Council II. There are exceptions to the Catechisms and Creeds for them too.They use the New Theology to interpret Vatican Council II, like the German bishops.-Lionel Andrades

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https://onepeterfive.com/acies-ordinata-munich-edition-an-interview-with-roberto-de-mattei/

The German bishops consider the Lefebvrists and the ACIES ORDINATA as being in schism, since they reject Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) and no one seems to know that Vatican Council II( Feeneyite), avoids a schism with the past popes on EENS, Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors etc.

Catholic laity protest Cdl Marx, call him to repent for leading German church down schismatic ‘synodal path’ is the title of a LifeSite report.It is still not understood that the German bishops consider the Lefebvrists and the ACIES ORDINATA as being in schism, since they reject Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) and no one seems to know that  Vatican Council II( Feeneyite), avoids a schism with the past popes on EENS, Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors etc.

Cushingite Roberto dei Mattei who wrote a book on Vatican Council II with a false premise and inference, has no apology or correction to offer and now he is asking the German bishops to turn around.
 

For him invincible ignorance is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus( EENS). I have mentioned it before in these reports and he has no comment.

In other words, hypothetical cases of an unknown person saved outside the Church is a practical exception to EENS for him.So he rejects the dogma EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Catechism of Pope Pius X on EENS and this is schism. He wants the German bishops to leave their schismatic path, which is based upon Vatican Council II.

Mattei is politically  correct on all magisterial documents which he interprets with Cushingism like Cardinal Marx, and then he is standing there at Munich as if he is an example of orthodoxy.

Just as he compromised on the faith, Cardinal Marx is doing the same, to protect his wealth and other worldly interests.

It would be something if Roberto dei Mattei was standing at Munich and affirming exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church with no known exceptions.He would have to admit that Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism and not Feeneyism, and so made a mistake.

 

Plineo Correa de Oliveriera, the Hildebrands, Michael Davies,Princess Elvina Pallavicini of the past and Princess Gloria von Thurn und Taxis, of today, also made a mistake over Vatican Council II.Once this is admitted then the error can be corrected and the Church can simply go back to its old ecclesiology. This would be unbelievable for the liberals in Germany.

It is only then that he can ask the German bishops to follow traditional faith and morals.Now the German bishops justify their un-orthodoxy,for me,  with Vatican Council II; Vatican Council II, Cushingite.This issue was not addressed in the statement issued at Munich.It was not also addressed at the Round table Conference before the Amazon Synod.

I repeat - the liberals keep saying that the changes in doctrine and theology is the result of Vatican Council II. It is like a new revelation in the Church. They consider themselves orthodox and  the Lefebvrists,as being  schismatic, for rejecting Vatican Council II.The two popes support them.

I too reject Vatican Council II Cushingite but I  affirm Vatican Council II, Feeneyite, which supports tradition and avoids schism.

Cardinal Marx could interpret the Catechisms and Creeds with Feeneyism, but he chooses Cushingism like members of the ACIES ORDINATA.

The liberalism of the German bishops does not come from out of the blue, it has a theological basis and this is never addressed at the traditionalist conferences.Joseph Shaw, John Lamont, Thomas Pink and John Rao  do not discuss  this issue since it would finally mean having to affirm Feeneyite EENS and Vatican Council II and they want to protect their teaching jobs.

In the ACIES ORDINATA statement on the German bishops there is no reference to Vatican Council II (Cushingite) and Vatican Council II( Feeneyite). The German bishops base  their doctrinal and theological changes on Vatican Council II ( Cushingite).Then they justify other changes in ecclesiology.

The Life Sites Statement did not point out that the German bishops need to affirm Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) i.e the Council interpreted with hypothetical cases just being hypothetical.Then the common false premise is avoided.

Cardinal Marx and the Left know that members of the ACIES ORDINATA do not affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) since then it would mean that they support the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church with an ecumenism of return.They would not want to do this in public formally and oppose the Left.

So the Lefbvrists go along with Vatican Council II( Cushingite) which is a rupture with Tradition and is the theological foundation at the German universities. It was the same for the German Cardinal Ratzinger. Nothing new.

Roberto dei Mattei, Michael Matt, John Henry Weston and John Smeaton could affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite), point out that it is traditional and rational and then ask the German bishops to do the same, since Cushingism is irrational and leads to heresy and sacrilege.

The issue still is exclusive salvation in the Church with no known exceptions.The issue is not a vague reference to Vatican Council II.

Is Michael Matt ready to say that there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church and that BOD,BOB and I.I are not practical exceptions to EENS ? Neither is LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc practical exceptions to EENS ? NO.His personal interests have always been the priority.

I had asked this question before the 'round table' discussion on the Amazon Synod.No one responded.

Does John Smeaton affirm Feeneyite EENS(BOD,BOB and I.I are not exceptions) or Cushingite EENS ( BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions)?

Does Roberto dei Mattei admit that Plineo Correa de Oliveriera  and Archbishop Lefebvre held on to Cushingite Vatican Council II and EENS and so made a mistake? The new theology is Cushingite and they did not now it 50 years back.

Professor Roberto dei Mattei does not want to be called a Feeneyite.So he interprets Vatican Council II and EENS with Cushingism like Cardinal Marx. Cushingism cannot be the teaching of the Holy Spirit. It has a human error.But how can the professor affirm exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church with no exceptions?- he is a rich man like Cardinal Marx.- Lionel Andrades

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/catholic-laityprotest-cdl-marx-call-him-to-repent-for-leading-german-church-down-schismatic-synodal-path

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