Sunday, December 23, 2018

Edward Pentin supports heresy - and receives the Eucharist at Mass in sacrilege ? He rejects the Syllabus of Errors , Athanasius Creed, past catechisms, original understanding of the Nicene Creed,the dogma EENS and reinterprets Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition when it is not

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Edward Pentin as a Catholic does not affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as it was known to the Magisterium in the 16th century. Since unknown cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are personally known cases for him. So this is why he accepts BOD, BOB and I.I as being practical exceptions to EENS. This leads to heresy and sacrilege. Since with a mortal sin of faith he receives the Holy Eucharist at Mass on Sundays.

ERRORS, HERESY(POINTS IN RED)

1.With this irrational reasoning Pentin, Rome correspondent at the National Catholic Register, has  changed the interpretation of EENS, which is no more strict and BOD-free, like it was know to the Magisterium and missionaries in the 16th century.There is an innovation.
2.He has  changed the understanding of the Creeds too.1
3. He has  chosen an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.
4.He  interprets the Catechism as a rupture with the old Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.The catechisms contradict themselves. They also contradict a rational interpretation of EENS and Vatican Council II.
This is all heresy and it is public.To reject the original meaning of the Nicene, Apostles and Athanasius Creed, and that too with an irrational premise and inference, is first class heresy.
Receiving the Eucharist at Holy Mass without ending this public scandal would be a sacrilege.
Pentin has written on Confusion of Holy Communion for Protestant Spouses and other issues related to Holy Mass.
If he says that this is what the present two popes and the cardinals, teach then he could acknowledge that it is irrational, heretical, non traditional and not part of the Deposit of the Faith.

THOMAS MORE COLLEGE OF LIBERAL ARTS, N.H
He  could reject  the error as a Catholic.He could clarify his  doctrinal and theological position with these following points,which I asked the faculty at the Thomas More College of Liberal Arts,N.H,USA and informed Pentin about it.2

CLARIFY DOCTRINAL POSITION (POINTS IN BLUE)
1.Edward Pentin could state that  BOD, BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases only and are not  objective exceptions to EENS in 2018.
2.He could affirm all the Creeds with BOD, BOB and I.I not being exceptions.
3.He could  affirm Vatican Council II with LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc not being exceptions to EENS as it was interpreted by the Magisterium in the 16th century, guided by the Holy Spirit.
4.He could affirm all the Catechisms in harmony with traditional EENS.
5.He  could acknowledge that  to change the interpretation of the Creeds, EENS, Vatican Council II and the Catechisms by useing an irrational premise and inference with reference to BOD, BOB and I.I is heresy. It is now public heresy.It is a mortal sin of faith. It would be a scandal to attend Holy Mass,and receive the Eucharist in this condition. Absolution in the Sacrament of Reconciliation is needed and the scandal has to be ended in public.

AFFIRM ORTHODOXY 
He could announce that he does not affirm the errors mentioned abovepoints in red) and instead affirms orthodoxy on Catholic doctrine (points in blue) even when this is not the teaching of the present ecclesiastics and the two popes at the Vatican.They have made an objective mistake and he has not written about it. They violated the Principle of Non Contradiction and so cannot be magisterial on this issue.This error is not the teaching of the Holy Spirit.


FR.THOMAS CREAN OP, ROME LIFE FORUM
Fr.Thomas Crean op is on the faculty of theThomas More College of Liberal Arts(TMC) and was a speaker at the Rome Life Forum in May 2018.He offers Holy Mass interpreting St. Thomas Aquinas as contradicting himself and Tradition.Like the Cushingite Dominicans, he holds the liberal position on Vatican Council II.It is interpreted as a rupture with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).He reaches this conclusion by using a false premise and inference.So the understanding of the Creeds are changed and there is a doctrinal mess.3
It is the same with Edward Pentin.

CATECHISM OF PIUS X CONTRADICTS ITSELF FOR THEM BUT NOT ME
The TMC faculty also teach the Catechism of Pope Pius X which says all need to be members of the Church for salvation. This Catechism is Feeneyite. Since when it mentions invincible ignorance, it is not a reference to a visible and practically known exception to EENS.But the Catechisms are interpreted with Cushingism.This is the teaching norm at TMC. So the Catechism of Pope Pius X would contradict the Syllabus of Errors ( ecuemnism of return etc.) The Catechisms and other Church documents are interpreted with the hermeneutic of rupture, even though a rational choice is available.
This is the doctrine that the two popes and Fr. Thomas Crean reject by using a false premise and inference.It is the same with Edward Pentin.
1.Nicene Creed.
2.Athanasius Creed.
3.Apostles Creed.
4.Extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
5.Vatican Council II.
6.Catechism of the Catholic Church.
7.Catechism of the Council of Trent and other Catechisms.




HERMENEUTIC OF CONTINUITY FOR ME
For me there  is no rupture between Vatican Council II  and the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS. Similarly the Catechisms are also interpreted with the hermeneutic of continuity.
This would not be true for the Dominican priest and Edward Pentin.They reject EENS as it was known to the Jesuits in the 16th century. They reject EENS as it was known to St. Dominic.This is the norm for the Dominicans today.
I do not interpret the Creeds as contradicting themselves.This is an an error of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.
For me the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 is irrational and heretical. However it is acceptable for the two popes, the CDF,the Domicans and the Catholic Edward Pentin.
I affirm EENS like the Magisterium and missionaries in the 16th century.They do not do the same.
SACRILEGE
For me they are in public heresy and the popes, cardinals and bishops offer Holy Mass in sacrilege. In public they, like Fr. Crean op,  will not affirm Magisterial documents of the Catholic Church rationally and traditionally.Instead they will choose a hermeneutic of rupture.
The Mass offered by the Dominican priest at the TMC chapel may be valid but it is in scandal. There is an impediment which is not denied by the TMC faculty.

Like the faculty of the Thomas More College(TMC) he rejects the  Syllbus of Errors , Athanasius Creed, past catechisms, original understanding of the Nicene Creed,the dogma EENS and reinterpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition when it is not. 4


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No clarification or denial from Thomas More College of Liberal Arts : public heresy and sacrilege

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/no-clarification-or-denial-from-thomas.html


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DECEMBER 10, 2018


Mass offered by the Dominican priest Fr.Thomas Crean at the TMC chapel may be valid but it is in scandal. There is an impediment which is not denied by the TMC faculty

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/so-mass-offered-by-dominican-priest.html


https://edwardpentin.co.uk/
http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin


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The faculty of the Thomas More College(TMC) of Liberal Arts, N.H, USA is not eligible to teach according to Canon Law since they reject the Syllbus of Errors , Athanasius Creed, past catechisms, original understanding of the Nicene Creed,the dogma EENS and reinterpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition when it is not: Phil Lawler could be an exception. 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-faculty-of-thomas-more-collegetmc.html





Church Militant TV on Bishop Barron

CMTV SUPPORTS OFFICAL HERESY
For Michael Voris and the Church Militant TV staff invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).CMTV supports the irrational and heretical Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO). Also for them unknown cases of LG 8, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are personally known non  Catholics saved outside the Church.So Vatican Council II is a rupture with EENS.It is the same for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) and also for Bishop Robert Barron.This was also the reasoning of Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, at the Placuet Deo Press Conference ( March 1, 2018) and Pope Benedict's statement with the hermeneutic of rupture (March 2016, Avvenire).





He said EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.For him there was ' a development'( rupture) created by Vatican Council II( interpreted irrationally).So non existing non Catholics saved outside the Church existed for him in time and space.




EENS CONTRADICTS VATICAN COUNCIL II AND THE CATECHISMS FOR CMTV
Michael Voris chose not to quote Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.Since BOD, BOB and I,I and Vatican Council II 's LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc would be exceptions for him.
Neither could he cite the Catechism of Pope Pius X which says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.Again there would be the usual exceptions for him which are not exceptions for me.There is a visible orinvisible. explicit or implicit way to look at things.This is philosophy.It can be rational or irrational.




FOR CMTV OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS SALVATION
So when CMTV says outside the Church there is salvation they mean theologically, that there is salvation outside the Church with BOD, BOB and I.I. and LG 8 etc.So CMTV finally is also saying like Bishop Robert Barron that outside the Church there is salvation according to Vatican Council II and EENS.
For them, in reality, BOD, LG 8 etc exist.For me there are no such people on earth.

LOHO CONTRADICT CANTATE DOMINO
So when Christine Niles did a Mic'd Up program for CMTV on extra ecclesiam nulla salus 1 she cited Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 but she also quoted the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which contradicts Cantate Domino's rigorist interpretation of EENS.
Fr.Leonard Feeney rejected the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 since obviously there cannot be any defacto case of BOD, BOB and I.I  which could be practical exceptions to EENS.Fr.Leonard Feeney is quoted as saying there is no BOD. Yes, there is no BOD, literally.


Once CMTV corrects their BOD is visible error the Catholic Church would still be saying for them that Vatican Council II (AG 7) says that everyone needs faith and baptism for salvation. It would mean every one and not just those who follow the natural law and are good people who believe in God.Again this would emerge as another hypothetical exception and it would be a new doctrine.






CMTV DID NOT OBJECT TO BP.BARRON CITING VATICAN COUNCIL II
Due to these limitations Michael Voris did not correct Bishop Barron for citing Vatican Council II.For me Bishop Barron should not have quoted Vatican Council II as mentioning  exceptions to EENS.Similarly at the Placquet Deo Press Conference, Cardinal Ladaria should not have quoted LG 8 with reference to EENS.No one at CMTV could have noticed.Since they interpret LG 8 as referring to known and visible non Catholics saved outside the Church and then wrongly blame Vatican Council II.2

MY CATHOLIC BELIEFS
Let me reiterate my Catholic beliefs which are free of this error.
1.I affirm EENS and also hypothetical, theoretical and speculative cases of BOD, BOB and I.I.They are not relevant to EENS as exceptions.
2.I affirm Vatican Council II with GS 22, LG 8, etc being only hypothetical in 2018 and not someone whom I could meet or see in the neighbourhood. They are not known people saved outside the Church.
3.I affirm the Nicene Creed which says ' I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins'.There is only one known baptism, the baptism of water for me.There are no known cases of BOD and BOB for me. I cannot administer the BOD or BOB as I can with the baptism of water.BOD and BOB, if they existed without the baptism of water, could only be seen and known to God and not to us human beings.
So membership in the Catholic Church with faith and baptism is the only way of salvation.There is only an ordinary way of salvation and no extraordinary way for us humans.
4.I affirm the Apostles Creed and when we pray, ' I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church' for me the Holy Spirit still guides the Church to say outside the Church there is no salvation.CMTV's theology says outside the Church there is salvation.It is interpreted in the same way by the two popes, Cardinal Ladaria and Bishop Robert Barron.
5.I affirm the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation. BOD, BOB and I.I and LG 8 etc are of course not exceptions for me.
6.I affirm all the Catechisms.BOD, BOB and I.I and LG 8 etc refer to invisible and unknown people in the present times.
Finally I accept the first part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO) which was only an inter-office letter among ecclesiastics. I reject the second part of this Letter which has an objective mistake and contradicts the first part. It violates the Principle of Non Contradiction.So cannot be magisterial. The Holy Spirit cannot make a mistake.
LOHO assumes physically invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I are visible examples of salvation outside the Church and objective exceptions to EENS.

ERROR IN VATICAN COUNCIL II
This same error in reasoning is there in Vatican Council II.BOD,BOB and I.I should not have been mentioned in the Council-text with orthodox passages on salvation which support EENS( AG 7,LG 14).BOD, BOB and I.I are not relevant to all needing faith and baptism for salvation(AG 7).This was a mistake the Council Fathers made.

I DON'T REJECT VATICAN COUNCIL II OR EENS
So in general I affirm Tradition without rejecting Vatican Council II or EENS.Cardinal Ladaria and Bishop Barron 3 have to reject EENS and the Syllabus of Errors to affirm their irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.I don't have this problem.
The Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) has to reject Vatican Council II (interpreted irrationally) to affirm the Syllabus of Errors ( ecumenism of return, past ecclesiology).Again  with a rational interpretation of EENS and Vatican Council II I don't have to do this.
Things couldn't be better.Doctrines do not contradict themselves and a coherence and order which already exists in Catholic teaching is seen clearly.-Lionel Andrades













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https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/micd-up-extra-ecclesiam-nulla-salus
https://gloria.tv/article/8Aetwqjv9iRT3nW7cPY4H2zRU
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/02/micd-upextra-ecclesiam-nulla-salus-with.html



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MARCH 4, 2018

Vatican Council II , the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus tell us outside the Church there is no salvation and Cardinal Ladaria says there is no more the superiority and exclusiveness of salvation in the Catholic Church
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/03/vatican-council-ii-catechism-of.html



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 FEBRUARY 8, 2018







DECEMBER 22, 2018

Bishop Robert Barron follows Placuet Deo of Cardinal Ladaria : does not tell a non Catholic he needs to convert for salvation
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/bishop-robert-barron-follows-placuet.html