Cardinals Grech and Hollerich say at the last Synod Press Conference that “we don’t judge” but the Bible tells us we can judge, we can judge which sins will take us to Hell. Jesus judges. Also, the cardinals Grech and Hollerich have judged that Catholics can interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and produce a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
The dogma EENS, the Athanasius Creed and Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX, judge, that non Catholic
Christians are outside the Catholic Church.They judge that they are oriented to Hell without Catholic
faith and the baptism of water, in the Catholic Church.
In the Gospel Reading from Matthew last Sunday at Mass in Italian, Jesus said that those who deny Him before men he will deny before His Father in Heaven. Jesus and His Mystical Body the Catholic Church are denied, when we interpret the Creeds, Catechisms, Councils and especially Vatican Council II irrationally.
Hollerich and Grech
are denying Jesus when they create a New Church, a false new church, to please
the Left and Satan.
St. Nathalie Bequart, Consultant at the Synod, has judged that when she interprets Vatican
Council II in Lumen Gentium 8,14 and 16 etc, as referring to objective cases in
2023, of non Catholics saved outside the Church, then Vatican Council II is a rupture
with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the rest of Tradition.
Then she ‘judges’ that since Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition, it is possible to have polygamy, approved LGBT-sex etc,etc.
Hollerich and Grech ‘judge’ that Nathalie Bequart is correct.
Then they all ‘judge’ that their ‘listening Church’ and ‘walking
together’ New Church, is meaningful.They call this proclaiming the Gospel.They indicate wrongly that this is and traditional mission. This is false. Since mission over the centuries, was always ecclesiocentric.It was based on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. But they have judged otherwise.
They do not want to ‘walk
together’ and ‘listen’ to Catholics who cite the Bible, Tradition and the past
Magisterium. - Lionel Andrades
JUNE 22,
2023
Why should all the
cardinals and bishops interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils and
Catechisms like cardinals Hollerich and Grech and Pope Francis and not like me?
They have an obligation to be honest.
Cardinals Hollerich and Grech’s ‘listening’ and ‘walking together’ is based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not rationally, a Council which is dishonest and not honest, heretical and not orthodox , nontraditional instead of traditional and public schism with the past Magisterium over the centuries.
This is the official heresy of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican and Pope Francis.
It is an objective and factual public error in the interpretation of Magisterial Documents (Creeds, Catechisms etc). It cannot be called Magisterial. For it to be Magisterial the interpretation has to be rational only.
The two cardinals and Sister Nathalie Bequart interpret LG 8, 14 and 16, UR 3, NA 2, Gs 22 etc in Vatican Council II as being physically visible cases in 1965-2023. Since LG 8 etc are objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, they imply that these are visible cases, objectively known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church. They would have to be visible. Since invisible people cannot be objective exceptions for the dogma EENS of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions.
So these cardinals and Sister Nathalie Bequart do not want the past exclusivist ecclesiology on mission, salvation, matrimony, LGBT sex etc. So they have interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally in the Methodology of the first session of the 16th Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops on the these:” For a synodal Church: communion, participation, mission”( 4 to 29 October 2023).By interpreting the Council irrationally in October they will not judge polygamy as a sin just as divorce and re-marriage is not a sin for Pope Francis. Cardinal Walter Kasper has said that if Vatican Council II can change the ecclesiology of the Church why cannot the divorce and remarried be given the Eucharist at Mass. He means Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.
They know that with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally i.e. LG 8, 14, 16 etc being only hypothetical and invisible cases in 1965-2023, there are no exceptions for the dogma EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors. The Church returns to traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. Inter faith marriages are adultery and the couple should not receive the Eucharist. Practicing homosexuals also should not be given the Eucharist until they repent and change their lifestyle. These are the traditional teachings of the Church which are supported by Vatican Council II. The Council, interpreted rationally, has the hermeneutic of continuity with Feeneyite EENS and the rest of Tradition.
So with the discovery of Vatican Council II, rational, we are back to the past exclusivist ecclesiology, traditional faith and morals, and the old understanding of mission which is ecclesiocentric and also Christocentric.
This also requires ‘listening to’ and ‘walking together’ and ‘not being judgmental’.
I interpret Vatican Council II rationally. So the Council does not contradict Feeneyite EENS and the Fourth Lateran Council. There is no change in the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church for me. I am following the pre and post Vatican Council II Magisterium which does not change. Pope Francis and cardinals Hollerich and Grech are not doing the same. In this sense they are not Magisterial. Dishonesty is not Magisterial.
I follow the traditional teachings of the Church on homosexual sex being a mortal sin, inter faith marriages being adultery, polygamy being a grave sin etc. These moral teachings are not contradicted by Vatican Council II interpreted rationally with the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. Pope Francis and cardinals Hollerich and Grech and Sr. Nathalie Bequart cannot say the same. They are not Magisterial when they reject the past Magisterium by using a false premise and inference to create new theologies and a new ecclesiology.
Why should all the cardinals and bishops interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms like cardinals Hollerich and Grech and Pope Francis and not like me? They have an obligation to be honest.- Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/why-should-all-cardinals-and-bishops.html
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JUNE 22, 2023
This is not Magisterial.
They are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. They are choosing the
false premise and inference to create a fake break with Tradition. This is a
mortal sin since the Creeds are changed. Cardinals Grech and Hollerich cease to
be cardinals until the scandal is ended. This press conference is political and
not Catholic. This is a fake Gospel and not traditional mission based upon
exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. Jesus and the Bible judge. Jesus
tells us people go to Hell.
On Tuesday 20 June 2023, at 14.30, in the Holy See Press Office, Saint Pius X Hall, Via dell’Ospedale 1, a press conference will be held to present the Instrumentum Laboris and Methodology of the first session of the 16th Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops on the theme: “For a synodal Church: communion, participation, mission” (4 to 29 October 2023).
The speakers will be:
- His Eminence Cardinal Mario Grech, secretary general of the Synod;
- His Eminence Cardinal Jean-Claude Hollerich, S.J., archbishop of Luxembourg, general rapporteur of the 16th Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops (by remote link);
- Fr. Giacomo Costa, S.J., consultor of the General Secretariat of the Synod of Bishops.
During the meeting, brief testimonies on the preparation of members for the October Assembly and the possible use of the Instrumentum Laboris by local groups will be presented by
- Helena Jeppesen-Spuhler, Lenten Fund (Switzerland) member of the Swiss delegation to the Continental Assembly in Prague;
- Fr. Rafael Simbine Junior, secretary general of SECAM (by remote link)
- Sr. Nadia Coppa, A.S.C., president of the UISG.
The press conference will be livestreamed in the original language on the Vatican News YouTube channel, at https://www.youtube.com/c/VaticanNews.
https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2023/06/14/230614b.html
This is not Magisterial. They are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. They are choosing the false premise and inference to create a fake break with Tradition. This is a mortal sin since the Creeds are changed. Cardinals Grech and Hollerich cease to be cardinals until the scandal is ended. This press conference is political and not Catholic. This is a fake Gospel and not traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. Jesus and the Bible judge. Jesus tells us people go to Hell...- Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/this-is-not-magisterialthey-are.html
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