So what if Dietrich von Hildebrand and Teilhard de Chardin had certain views ? At Vatican Council II they needed a concrete theology to make the change. They had to be specific and real in the documents of the Council. The personal views at large of Fr. Joseph Ratzinger were not enough.They had to produce material which would be accepted by the conservatives and traditionalists

  

So what if Dietrich von Hildebrand and Teilhard de Chardin had certain views ? At Vatican Council II they needed a concrete theology to make the change. They had to be specific and real in the documents of the Council. The personal views at large of Fr. Joseph Ratzinger were not enough.They had to produce material which would be accepted by the conservatives and traditionalists.

When Pope Benedict or Pope Francis quote Vatican Council II the traditionalists respond by saying that the Council is not traditional. That's all. They  say that the Council contradicts EENS. That's all. The liberals respond, "Yes it is true."

That is the end of the dialogue.

Both groups agree that the Council is a break with Tradition.

It is the end of any dialogue since conservative Catholics do not know that the Council contradicts Tradition because a subtle false premise was used.

The same false premise was accepted by conservative Catholics when it was there in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. 

Unknown cases of the baptism of desire were projected as known and practical exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. 

Invisible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance were projected as visible exceptions to EENS as it was known to the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.

Pope Pius XII ignored the error and so did Pope John XXIII.

Pope Paul VI ignored the error and Dietrich von Hildebrand, John Davies and Archbishop Lefebvre did not mentiom it. 

The subtle error had got through.

• So we must talk today about the false premise, it is something real and concrete in Vatican Council II.It has to be identified before it can be eliminated.
• It is the liberals and Masons who must talk about Rahner,Congar and Ratzinger and try to distract us from the false premise.-Lionel Andrades

DECEMBER 21, 2020

Why are Dr. Taylor Marshall and Anthony Flanders still talking about Rahner, Kung and De Lubac, let the liberals do it.So what if Rahner, Kung and De Lubac were there at Vatican Council II.So what if they held various concepts ? Since if we do not use their false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Council returns back to Tradition to pre-Vatican Council II times.We go back to the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the missionaries of the 16th century

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/why-are-dr-taylor-marshall-and-anthony.html

Why are Dr. Taylor Marshall and Anthony Flanders still talking about Rahner, Kung and De Lubac, let the liberals do it.So what if Rahner, Kung and De Lubac were there at Vatican Council II.So what if they held various concepts ? Since if we do not use their false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Council returns back to Tradition to pre-Vatican Council II times.We go back to the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the missionaries of the 16th century

Why are Dr. Taylor Marshall and Anthony Flanders still talking about Rahner, Kung and De Lubac, let the liberals do it.So what if Rahner, Kung and De Lubac were there at Vatican Council II.So what if they held various concepts ? Since if we do not use their false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Council returns back to Tradition to pre-Vatican Council II times.We go back to the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the missionaries of the 16th century. -Lionel Andrades

DECEMBER 20, 2020

They do not make the connection between the Nouvelle théologie and the false premise

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/they-do-not-make-connection-between.html

The popes could announce that in future, authors must not write books on Vatican Council II by interpreting the Council with the false premise.This is a false way to create a rupture with Catholic Tradition. This deception must end.

 The popes could announce that in future, authors must not write  books on Vatican Council II by interpreting the Council with the  false premise.This is a false way to create a rupture with Catholic Tradition. This deception must end.

Also the German Catholic theological industry, must stop producing new theologies and reviews, based upon Vatican Council II  interpreted irrationally  instead of rationally.

Cardinal Schonborn must clarify that Austrian theologians can interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994)rationally or irrationally and they choose not to use the false premise. The University of Vienna is not Catholic, when it teaches theology with deception. -Lionel Andrades

How do you tell judges of the Italian courts and tribunals that they are interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise and that a rational premise is possible ?

 How do you tell judges of the Italian courts and tribunals that they are interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise and that a rational premise is possible ?  -Lionel Andrades

 DECEMBER 23, 2019

The Roman Rota and members of Canonists and theological associations in Italy interpret Vatican Council II by confusing invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. Even judges of the secular courts in Italy, have had a religious formation at pontifical universities.

Fr.Hadi Daou, the Chaplin and Vice Rector of the Pontifical Maronite College, Rome said on Saturday that he did not  know of any one saved in invincible ignorance. He did not know of any one saved  outside the Church. If there were  any such cases they would only be known to God. I agree  with him. This is common sense.So LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II can only refer  to hypothetical cases. They are not objectively seen non Catholics. The New Theology in Vatican Council II is based upon the false reasoning in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. The baptism of desire(BOD) and invincible ignorance (I.I) were exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).They (BOD and I.I and LG 8 etc) are not people whom we can meet and see. So they are not exceptions to the present exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and 16th century EENS.Invisible people cannot be exceptions. An exception must exist. The person must be there. We cannot say that any particular person whom we know, will be saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7). A 'possibility' is not an exception  in real life. So we can affirm Vatican Council II but not as being a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors and the Athanasius Creed. This is a mistake being made by the Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Archbishops Giacomo Morandi and Augustine di Noia.There is not theological basis for the New Theology, New Ecumenism, New Canon Law etc, in Vatican Council II..There is no foundation for them when the Council is interpreted rationally, without confusing what is invisible as being visible.

So when I say outside the Church there is no salvation I am affirming Vatican Council II, Ad Gentes 7, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation ( to avoid Hell). The Conciliar Church, in the text of Vatican Council II, supports exclusive salvation. Membership in the Church with faith and baptism are necessary for salvation.It is not Jesus, without the Catholic Church. It is not a vague Christology without an ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. Jesus must not be separated from the Church says Pope John Paul II's encyclical Dominus Iesus.

The Roman Rota and members of Canonists and theological associations in Italy interpret Vatican Council II by confusing invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. Even judges of the secular courts in Italy, have had religious formation at pontifical universities.

At the Catholic educational institutions,  hypothetical cases were confused as being non hypothetical. So Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are still wrongly interpreted as a split with the past teachings of the Church on exclusive salvation.

Now members of the Roman Rota  and Catholic members of the Judiciary in the secular courts in Italy do not tell  Catholics,that they must believe that there are only Catholics in Heaven and this is the Conciliar Church after Vatican Council II.They do not say this since they were taught to interpret Vatican Council II with LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc referring to visible non Catholics saves outside the Catholic Church.

So when I say that all non Catholics, including Pentecostals and Evangelicals, are oriented to Hell outside the Catholic Church, this is not just a personal view. I am supported by Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, interpreted rationally. I am affirming what has been the teaching of the Magisterium for centuries.-Lionel Andrades



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TUESDAY, DECEMBER 24, 2019

Roman Rota and Catholic members of the Judiciary in the secular courts in Italy do tell Catholics that Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite ) indicates there are only Catholics in Heaven (Grafics)

-Lionel Andrades

DECEMBER 23, 2019

The Roman Rota and members of Canonists and theological associations in Italy interpret Vatican Council II by confusing invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. Even judges of the secular courts in Italy, have had a religious formation at pontifical universities.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/fr.html

 DECEMBER 21, 2019

The judiciary in Italy use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II like Abp. Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-judiciary-in-italy-use-false.html

DECEMBER 21, 2019

This is a political issue in Italy, which Salvini and Meloni must bring up before their political opponents, their political parties, the judiciary, ecclesiastics and Italians in general

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/this-is-political-issue-in-italy-which.html

 DECEMBER 18, 2019

La Sapienza University Rome has a Faculty of Law(Jurisprudenza) which interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/la-sapienza-university-rome-has-faculty.html

DECEMBER 13, 2019

Catholics are discriminated in Rome because of their religion : seventeen years in Rome and I am still waiting to be a priest.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/catholics-are-discriminated-in-rome.html

DECEMBER 12, 2019

Directors of Periodica de re canonica,the journal of the Faculty of Canon Law of the Pontifical Gregorian University interpret Vatican Council II irrationally : so they would discriminate against conservative students

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/directors-of-periodica-de-re.html

DECEMBER 12, 2019

Canonists and speakers at the Archisodalitium, Curiae Romanae conferences overlook deception in the interpretation of Magisterial documents

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/canonists-and-speakers-at.html

DECEMBER 13, 2019

To reject a conservative Catholic student, who affirms EENS, Vatican Council II, all the Catechisms and the Syllabus of Errors is unfair. It is unfair to tell him that Vatican Council II, interpreted irrationally, contradicts Tradition

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/to-reject-conservative-catholic-student.html

DECEMBER 11, 2019

Irrationality would also be part of the religious formation of Catholic members of the judiciary in Italy

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/irrationality-would-also-be-part-of.html

DECEMBER 11, 2019

At the Angelicum and Gregorian University,Rome, they approve doctoral thesis only of students who interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.This is unethical and dishonest

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/at-angelicum-and-gregorian.html

DECEMBER 10, 2019

There is a formation course at the University of St.Thomas Aquinas, on the new ecumenism, titled Ut Unum Sint which interprets Unitatis Reintigratio in Vatican Council II has having exceptions to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the past exclusivist ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/there-is-formation-course-at-university.html

 DECEMBER 6, 2019

Correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter, Crux,the Tablet, Commonweal, Catholic Herald, U.K,National Catholic Register and EWTN interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/correspondents-of-national-catholic.html

DECEMBER 5, 2019

Cardinal Ratzinger's theology is the cause of the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.The interpretation of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church is heretical and it is now common throughout the Church. He did not correct Pope Paul VI when he interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism.Instead he produced Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus, based upon the irrational philosophy and theology and then projected it as the Deposit of the Faith

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/cardinal-ratzingers-theology-is-cause.html

 DECEMBER 6, 2019

Edward Pentin's report on Bishop Rudolf Voderholzer, Bishop of Regensburg,Germany, was superficial.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/edward-pentins-interview-of-bishop.html