Friday, March 8, 2019

Quello che credo come Cattolico - 2019


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Affermo tutti i documenti della Chiesa e gli insegnamenti del magistero in armonia con l'insegnamento tradizionale sulla salvezza esclusiva nella sola Chiesa Cattolica. Accetto il Concilio Vaticano II (Ad Gentes 7) che dice che tutti hanno bisogno di fede e battesimo di acqua per la salvezza - tutti.
Accetto anche il Cantate Domino, il Concilio di Firenze 1441 e il Catechismo di Papa Pio X che dice che tutti devono essere membri della Chiesa Cattolica per evitare l'Inferno (per la salvezza). Il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica cita Ad Gentes 7. Così è armonia con i vecchi catechismi, per me.
Accetto il battesimo del desiderio (BDD), il battesimo del sangue (BDS) e l'ignoranza invincibile (I.I). Per me possono solo essere ipotetici. Sono possibilità conosciute solo da Dio. Non possiamo dire che c'erano 20 casi di BDD, BDS e I.I l'anno scorso o 25 casi l'anno prima. Sono sempre invisibili e sconosciuti a noi umani. Quindi non sono eccezioni oggettive al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) come era noto ai missionari nel 16 ° secolo. Quindi non devo rifiutare BDD, BDS e I.I che sono solo possibilità speculative.
 Accetto anche LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II. Possono essere solo casi teorici per noi esseri umani sulla terra. Non possiamo vedere o incontrare nessuno salvato nell'ignoranza invincibile (LG 16) o elementi di santificazione e verità (LG 8) al di fuori della Chiesa nel 2019.
 Non sono eccezioni pratiche nel 2019 all'EENS, come era noto ai Padri della Chiesa, ai santi e ai papi nel Medioevo e al Concilio Vaticano II.
Quindi per me il Concilio Vaticano è una continuazione e non una rottura con la Tradizione ( Sillabo di Papa Pio IX, la passata ecclesiologia esclusiva nella Chiesa, un ecumenismo del ritorno ecc.)
 Come per Don Leonard Feeney di Boston, anche per me, non ci sono casi letterali di BDS,BDS,I.I, che potrebbero essere eccezioni alla tradizionale interpretazione di EENS. Non c'è salvezza conosciuta al di fuori della Chiesa Cattolica per me.
Frequento la Santa Messa in italiano, latino e greco bizantino in diversi riti a Roma. Ho partecipato, e sosterrò, al Cammino Neocatecumenale, al Rinnovamento Carismatico Cattolico, Focolari di Chiara Lubich e alla Legione di Maria. Sono a pro- Medjugorje dove sono stato in due pellegrinaggi, per più di due mesi.
Io non sono un tradizionalista che rifiuta il Concilio Vaticano II e né io sono un liberale che rifiuta il dogma EENS, il Sillabo di Papa Pio IX, l'ecclesiologia dell'esclusivismo passato. Affermo BDD, BDS e I.I insieme a Feeneyite EENS. Poiché  BDD, BDS e I.I sono sempre ipotetici, non devo scegliere né BOD, BOB e I.I né Feeneyite EENS.
Con questa posizione teologica razionale e tradizionale non mi è stato permesso di continuare con i miei studi teologici e filosofici presso istituzioni cattoliche . Ho punti di credito universitari. Devo completare i miei studi nell'ultimo anno, per ottenere un diploma accademico.
-Lionel Andrades

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Blog: Eucharist and Mission





MARCH 8, 2019


What I believe as a Catholic - 2019

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I affirm all Church documents and magisterial teachings in harmony with the traditional teaching on there being exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church.I accept Vatican Council II( Ad Gentes 7) which says all need faith and the baptism of water for salvation -all. 
I also accept Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 and the Catechism of Pope Pius X which saysall need to be members of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell( for salvation).The Catechism of the Catholic Church cites AG 7.So it is in harmony  with the old  Catechisms, for me.
I accept  the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I).For me they can only be hypothetical.They are possibilities known only to God.We cannot say that there were 20 cases of BOD, BOB and I.I last year or 25 cases the year before. They are always unseen and unknown to us humans. So they are not objective exceptions  to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century. So I do not have to reject  BOD, BOB and I.I which are only speculative possibilities.
 I also accept LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II. They can only be theoretical cases for us human beings on earth.We cannot see or meet any one saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) or elements of sanctification and truth(LG 8) outside the Church in 2019.
 They are not practical exceptions  in 2019 to EENS, as it was known to the Church Fathers , the saints and popes in the Middle Ages and Vatican Council II.
So for me Vatican Council  is a continuation and not a rupture with Trasdition ( Syllabus of Errors, past eccleiology ,ecumenism of return etc)
 Like it was for Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston, for me, there are no literal cases of BOD, BOB and I.I, which could be exceptions to the traditional interpretation of EENS.There is no known salvation outside the Catholic Church for me.
I attend Holy Mass in Italian, Latin and Byzantine Greek in different Rites in Rome. I have been a part of , and shall support, the Neo Catechumenal Way, Catholic Charimatic Renewal , the Focolares and Legion of Mary.I am pro- Medugorje where I have been on two pilgrimages, over more than two months.

I am not a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II and neither am I a  liberal who rejects the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the past exclusivist ecclesiology.I affirm BOD, BOB and I.I along with Feeneyite EENS. Since BOD,BOB and I.I are always hypothetical I do not have to choose either BOD, BOB and I.I or Feeneyite EENS.
With this rational and traditional theological position I was not allowed to continue with  my theological and philosophical studies at recognized Catholic institutions.I have university credit points.I need to complete  my  studies in the final year, to receive an academic degree.

-Lionel Andrades

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com
Blog: Eucharist and Mission
Tel : None.

What I believe as a Catholic - 2019

 Image result for Photo Vatican St. Peters Basilica
I affirm all Church documents and magisterial teachings in harmony with the traditional teaching on there being exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church.I accept Vatican Council II( Ad Gentes 7) which says all need faith and the baptism of water for salvation -all. 
I also accept Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 and the Catechism of Pope Pius X which says all need to be members of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell( for salvation).The Catechism of the Catholic Church cites AG 7.So it is in harmony  with the old  Catechisms, for me.
I accept  the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I).For me they can only be hypothetical.They are possibilities known only to God.We cannot say that there were 20 cases of BOD, BOB and I.I last year or 25 cases the year before. They are always unseen and unknown to us humans. So they are not objective exceptions  to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century. So I do not have to reject  BOD, BOB and I.I which are only speculative possibilities.
 I also accept LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II. They can only be theoretical cases for us human beings on earth.We cannot see or meet any one saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) or elements of sanctification and truth(LG 8) outside the Church in 2019.
 They are not practical exceptions  in 2019 to EENS, as it was known to the Church Fathers , the saints and popes in the Middle Ages and Vatican Council II.
So for me Vatican Council  is a continuation and not a rupture with Trasdition ( Syllabus of Errors, past eccleiology ,ecumenism of return etc)
 Like it was for Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston, for me, there are no literal cases of BOD, BOB and I.I, which could be exceptions to the traditional interpretation of EENS.There is no known salvation outside the Catholic Church for me.
I attend Holy Mass in Italian, Latin and Byzantine Greek in different Rites in Rome. I have been a part of , and shall support, the Neo Catechumenal Way, Catholic Charimatic Renewal , the Focolares and Legion of Mary.I am pro- Medugorje where I have been on two pilgrimages, over more than two months.

I am not a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II and neither am I a  liberal who rejects the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the past exclusivist ecclesiology.I affirm BOD, BOB and I.I along with Feeneyite EENS. Since BOD,BOB and I.I are always hypothetical I do not have to choose either BOD, BOB and I.I or Feeneyite EENS.
With this rational and traditional theological position I was not allowed to continue with  my theological and philosophical studies at recognized Catholic institutions.I have university credit points.I need to complete  my  studies in the final year, to receive an academic degree.

-Lionel Andrades

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com
Blog: Eucharist and Mission
Tel : None.