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Vatican Council II supports Fr. John Courtney Murray sj when it is interpreted irrationally and Mons. Joseph Clifford Fenton when it is interpreted rationally.Pope Paul VI chose the irrational version of the Council when had a choice

 VATICAN COUNCIL II SUPPORTS FR.JOHN COURTNEY MURRAY SJ WHEN IT IS INTERPRETED IRRATIONALLY AND MONS. JOSEPH CLIFFORD FENTON WHEN IT IS INTERPRETED RATIONALLY. POPE PAUL VI CHOSE THE IRRATIONAL VERSION OF THE COUNCIL WHEN HE HAD A CHOICE.

Vatican Council II supports Fr. John Courtney Murray sj when it is interpreted irrationally and Mons. Joseph Clifford Fenton when it is interpreted rationally.Pope Paul VI chose the irrational version of the Council when he had a choice.The popes and the SSPX choose the irrational version too today, like the liberals and conservative Catholics.

When the Council is interpreted with the rational premise, the Church will once again be conservative.It will support Le Pen and Salvini and not Macron and Matterella.

Vatican Council II since Paul VI has been interpreted with a false premise, so there is alleged ‘known salvation’, in personal cases in the present times (1965-2021) outside the Church.This is deceptive. The message is that outside the Church, without ‘faith and the baptism of water, there are known non Catholics saved. So the New Theology says outside the Church there is salvation.The past ecclesiocentrism has been made obsolete with exceptions.We have a New Theology which permits general liberalism,new ecumenism etc. It is with this New Theology that Fr.John Courtney Murray sj could present his new theories on religious liberty, Church-State separation etc.

With this liberalism, Le Pen in France and Salvini in Italy, will continue to have the Catholic Church against them.

BISHOP SCHNEIDER CLOSES THE DOOR TO LIBERALISM

Bishop Athanasius Schneider was closing the door to liberalism when he said there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire(Lumen Gentium 14).For him LG 14 etc being invisible and theoretical were not practical exceptions to the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX( ecumenism of return and outside the Church no salvation), in the present times (1965-2021).

With the past exclusivist ecclesiology supported by Ad Gentes 7 ( all need faith and baptism for salvation.All.) and LG 14 etc not being an exception to Ad Gentes 7, there is no block in the Council to oppose the proclaiming of the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation.This is the rational approach i.e hypothetical cases of LG 14 etc, remain hypothetical only.

MATTEI, KWASNIEWSKI
Roberto dei Mattei and Peter Kwasniewski may affirm the Social Reign of Chrst the King but they negate it with their irrational interpreation of Vatican Council II. The St.Benedict Centers too support the past ecclesiocentrism but negate it like the liberals, when they do not choose to interpret Vatican Council II rationally. LG 14 etc have to refer to visible cases for them to be exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors. And if there is salvation outside the Church, if there are exceptions for EENS, then why proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King ?
This is important to remember during elections.All Catholics, should only vote for political candidates who affirm the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics, and interpret Vatican Council II rationally, unlike Mattei and the others.
When Vatican Council II is interpreted with the rational premise there is no separation between the traditional Church and conservative political parties and politicians.Le Pen and Salvini would not have the Church agaist them.
With the rational interpretation of Vatican Council II the Church would be saying that the migrants need faith and baptism for salvation.They would have to accept Jesus in the Catholic Church, and live the faith and moral teachings, and avail of the Sacraments, to avoid Hell.

GOD AT THE CENTRE OF POLITICS
God would be at the centre of political activity and legislation ( pro –life, Ten Commandments, virtues of modesty and chastity in public etc) and not Satan ( abortion, contraception, pornography, immodesty in public, homosexual unions etc).

ARCHBISHOP VIGANO IS ON THE WRONG SIDE ON VATICAN COUNCIL II
Arcbishop Carlo Maria Vigano and the Lefebvrist group support Satan and the Masons when they interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational and not rational premise.The fruits are bad. It’s the same with John Henry Weston, Marco Tosatti, Joseph Shaw and others. They could choose the rational interpretation of Vatican Council II and be politically incorrect with the Left.

ROME MAYOR ELECTION

 There are only politically correct candidates for the elections for the Mayor’s office in Rome.There is no political party which proclaims the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics, and interprets Vatican Council II rationally.

The laity, like the FSSP and SSPX, do not interpret the Council rationally.So theologically, they support the Left, knowingly or unknowingly.

Le Pen and Salvini in ignorance allow Pope Francis to interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and they keep silent on this politico-religious issue.It’s the same with Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke. There are no protests.

Even in France the bloggers at Riposte Catholique, Salon Beige,Met etc, do not ask the French Bishops Conference and Bishop Roland Mitterand in Dijon, to accept and interpret Vatican Council II rationally.This is a political and religious issue in the Catholic Church.
The traditionelle and militante in France must accept a rational interpretation of Vatican Council II.Since the liberals in France need a theology on which to peg their liberalism.They need the false premise and the traditionelle must not permit them to have it in silence. It was the same for Fr. John Courtney Murray sj and today for Pope Francis.The theology had to be created and the only way it was done was by using a false premise.Without the false premise,which creates the New Theology, there is no liberalism.This was not known to Mons. Joseph Clifford Fenton and Fr. John Courtney Murray sj in their sparring over the issue of Religious Liberty.
We have a new discovery after some 50 years. We now know that there are two interpretations of the Council and John Courtney Murray has been made obsolete.-Lionel Andrades

Lionel Andrades
Promoter of the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II.For him the Council is dogmatic and not only pastoral.
Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.
There can be two interpretations.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission )
E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com